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[Interview] Elazer, WCS Valencia champion - Page 2

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 16 2017 08:52 GMT
#21
On July 16 2017 17:31 Kerdinand wrote:
Nooooooo, now we will never know which progamers Elazer would take to rescue his loved ones from fierce pirates! I'm now rooting for him in all the following tournaments so Wax gets another shot at asking THE QUESTION.

Imo Wax should be suspended for this critical mistake.
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bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
July 16 2017 10:04 GMT
#22
On July 16 2017 15:32 ParksonVN wrote:
Korean ZvZ is really worse than EU ZvZ ? Then why everytime I saw top Korean Zergs played against top EU Zergs on LAN tournaments, the EU pros got slapped hopelessly?


You mean like Solar vs Elazer or Solar vs Nerchio (both in Blizzon)?
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
July 16 2017 10:17 GMT
#23
Congrats to Elazer! good to see him winning a major title!
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4960 Posts
July 16 2017 10:18 GMT
#24
This is why we need Korea vs the GSL, hope Elazer can back it up his words.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 16 2017 10:26 GMT
#25
Nice interview. Not sure what to do, to elevate the foreign Terran level. The only really good ones, got that good by living in KR :/.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
July 16 2017 10:43 GMT
#26
On July 16 2017 19:04 bulya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 15:32 ParksonVN wrote:
Korean ZvZ is really worse than EU ZvZ ? Then why everytime I saw top Korean Zergs played against top EU Zergs on LAN tournaments, the EU pros got slapped hopelessly?


You mean like Solar vs Elazer or Solar vs Nerchio (both in Blizzon)?


I meant Dark va Elazer and Serral, while Dark was still getting beaten up and down by Soo or some other Korean Zergs.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 16 2017 10:46 GMT
#27
On July 16 2017 19:43 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 19:04 bulya wrote:
On July 16 2017 15:32 ParksonVN wrote:
Korean ZvZ is really worse than EU ZvZ ? Then why everytime I saw top Korean Zergs played against top EU Zergs on LAN tournaments, the EU pros got slapped hopelessly?


You mean like Solar vs Elazer or Solar vs Nerchio (both in Blizzon)?


I meant Dark va Elazer and Serral, while Dark was still getting beaten up and down by Soo or some other Korean Zergs.

So not "every time", but "the 2 times I decided to pick"?
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inermis
Profile Joined September 2010
353 Posts
July 16 2017 11:47 GMT
#28
good interview, congratz Elazer ! Shows that hard work pays off
play hard go pro
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
July 16 2017 12:34 GMT
#29
Why is this post not spoiler protected?
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-16 14:05:42
July 16 2017 14:04 GMT
#30
I don't see him getting into GSL vs The World over Snute or Scarlett tbh. Those two have just been around so long and have big fanbases.

But like I said in the other thread, he does, he has a chance if he gets a ZvZ against Dark or soO. Or goes up against Zest/sOs. Probably the best chance out of any foreigner for getting out the ro16

On July 16 2017 19:43 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 19:04 bulya wrote:
On July 16 2017 15:32 ParksonVN wrote:
Korean ZvZ is really worse than EU ZvZ ? Then why everytime I saw top Korean Zergs played against top EU Zergs on LAN tournaments, the EU pros got slapped hopelessly?


You mean like Solar vs Elazer or Solar vs Nerchio (both in Blizzon)?


I meant Dark va Elazer and Serral, while Dark was still getting beaten up and down by Soo or some other Korean Zergs.


Elazer and Serral did put up good fights against Dark in some of their games.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
9Dimitri
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
Hungary14 Posts
July 16 2017 14:54 GMT
#31
Special or Kelazhur could beat Elazer though.
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
July 16 2017 16:16 GMT
#32
Congrats and good luck finding a good team!
Go Go Elazer!
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KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
July 16 2017 17:37 GMT
#33
First of all, congratulations to Elazer, who deserved the championship for outclassing every zerg in a mostly zerg tourney.
Also, wp Snute, Major, and True.

But can we talk about player fatigue? I think it deserves a thread of its own.
I'm not discrediting the players who advanced when I state that from the semifinals (Ro.4) onwards all the players who lost ... well, their games looked really tired and more sloppy than should be allowable at that level. And it was more like they lost the games more than the opponent won them. I'm not going to mention the examples, but here are some:

TRUE: I don't know what this guy was doing. First, a hatch first on a rush map, then a rush on a macro map. But whatever.

SpeCiaL: He looked soooo tired after the match vs Neeb. And it showed in the match vs Snute. Seiging multiple tanks in clumps = nono. Losing multiple medivacs after drops by being careless about unloading marines on their way out of base = uncharacteristic.

Snute: Too much to talk about. But THAT HATCHERY! Like, lol, but seriously, why run the lings up the ramp at that time when he had more lings, no queens were in transfuse range, and the hatch was like 2 seconds of zergling attack away from falling. It was more than game pressure, there.

The above does not just apply to the last WCS event, although it was in Valencia that it really showed.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

A modest proposal: Change Semifinals and Finals to be all best of seven (Bo7) like GSL and push it (Ro4 and Ro2) to another day or a long delay. I think we'll see more quality games, higher quality games, and better-prepared games with less slopiness at the end of the brackets this way, and it would be fun. Yes, I understand from the weekend tournament perspective, adding another day is kind of expensive. But guess what: Most people aren't drawn to esports by money in the first place. It's about game quality. Let's keep the quality of matches at the highest level going strong.
Et tu Brute ?
Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
July 16 2017 17:41 GMT
#34
I think people may try to put a semi-asterisk next to this win just like they did w neeb's kespa cup win because it's so similar (playing a mirror match over and over to win)

which is unfortunate, but i guess there's always that risk whenever you play non-swiss formats
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 16 2017 18:25 GMT
#35
On July 17 2017 02:41 Fatam wrote:
I think people may try to put a semi-asterisk next to this win just like they did w neeb's kespa cup win because it's so similar (playing a mirror match over and over to win)

which is unfortunate, but i guess there's always that risk whenever you play non-swiss formats

Not all brackets are created equal.
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 16 2017 19:09 GMT
#36
Unfortunate to see him win.
why even
Toster256
Profile Joined November 2013
Australia26 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 09:50:54
July 17 2017 09:49 GMT
#37
This is when I played my biggest idol in StarCraft II. Besides, maybe … one player that doesn’t play anymore...

= Life, I guess

Congrats! Well deserved victory!
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
July 17 2017 11:11 GMT
#38
On July 17 2017 04:09 D-light wrote:
Unfortunate to see him win.

Yeah, you wrote it only like a hunderd times. Very helpful.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18576 Posts
July 17 2017 12:53 GMT
#39
There is like so much "like"...
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
July 17 2017 15:37 GMT
#40
On July 17 2017 18:49 Toster256 wrote:
This is when I played my biggest idol in StarCraft II. Besides, maybe … one player that doesn’t play anymore...

= Life, I guess

Congrats! Well deserved victory!


My guess is Jaedong
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