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soO advances to his 6th (!) Code S Grand Finals - Page 4

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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
June 17 2017 17:17 GMT
#61
NOW IS THE TIME!
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 17 2017 18:00 GMT
#62
Nobody else can beat that, I'm sure of it...
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
June 17 2017 18:03 GMT
#63
Soo banished Mvp from GSL to the realm of WCS Europe, and now he's been in as many GSL finals as him.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 17 2017 18:04 GMT
#64
So shall it be.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 17 2017 18:12 GMT
#65
On June 18 2017 03:03 Solar424 wrote:
Soo banished Mvp from GSL to the realm of WCS Europe, and now he's been in as many GSL finals as him.

And in this case it actually was code s every single time!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Zest_is_best
Profile Joined October 2016
France15 Posts
June 17 2017 18:29 GMT
#66
How come there are so much people who think GuMiho doesn't stand a chance in straight up games ??? He won a lot of straight up games in those TvT series and even though it's not the same matchup, it showcases well the guy can macro as well as anybody (except Inno ofc). On top of that GuMiho has a very favorable score against soO so I wouldn't count him out, I even see him as the favorite ( and with soO's curse on top of this :o ) even though I cheer for soO
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Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
June 17 2017 18:33 GMT
#67
On June 18 2017 03:29 Zest_is_best wrote:
How come there are so much people who think GuMiho doesn't stand a chance in straight up games ??? He won a lot of straight up games in those TvT series and even though it's not the same matchup, it showcases well the guy can macro as well as anybody (except Inno ofc). On top of that GuMiho has a very favorable score against soO so I wouldn't count him out, I even see him as the favorite ( and with soO's curse on top of this :o ) even though I cheer for soO

They probably did not pay attention to his recent form. I still think soo is better but not by much at all. We might have a 4-3 or something. It could also happen that soo gets thrown off by gumi's weird builds.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
June 17 2017 18:34 GMT
#68
On June 18 2017 03:29 Zest_is_best wrote:
How come there are so much people who think GuMiho doesn't stand a chance in straight up games ??? He won a lot of straight up games in those TvT series and even though it's not the same matchup, it showcases well the guy can macro as well as anybody (except Inno ofc). On top of that GuMiho has a very favorable score against soO so I wouldn't count him out, I even see him as the favorite ( and with soO's curse on top of this :o ) even though I cheer for soO

Probably because he doesn't have the same achievements/legacy as the other top players.
Judging by his current form he has definitely a good shot but people always look at their previous accomplishments to determine if they're a championship-calibre player or not.
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BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
June 17 2017 19:19 GMT
#69
On June 18 2017 03:29 Zest_is_best wrote:
How come there are so much people who think GuMiho doesn't stand a chance in straight up games ??


Probably because he never won any major tournaments in his career. We shall see how he performs next week
Big Red Dog!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 17 2017 20:01 GMT
#70
On June 18 2017 04:19 BigRedDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 03:29 Zest_is_best wrote:
How come there are so much people who think GuMiho doesn't stand a chance in straight up games ??


Probably because he never won any major tournaments in his career. We shall see how he performs next week

Yeah, that finals all-kill notwithstanding...
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Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
June 17 2017 21:31 GMT
#71
so interesting question, how would you rank soO on the all-time list if he finally wins this time? Yes only 1 GSL win but so many finals, it's pretty impressive
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LtCalley
Profile Joined March 2011
United States244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-17 21:37:52
June 17 2017 21:36 GMT
#72
On June 18 2017 04:19 BigRedDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 03:29 Zest_is_best wrote:
How come there are so much people who think GuMiho doesn't stand a chance in straight up games ??


Probably because he never won any major tournaments in his career. We shall see how he performs next week


just a matter of semantics but gumiho actually won his first major tournament earlier this year in march with a 5-2 over Neeb in Ting Open season 3...

however, in support of what you probably meant, he has indeed not won a premier tournament.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-17 22:13:41
June 17 2017 21:39 GMT
#73
On June 18 2017 06:31 Fatam wrote:
so interesting question, how would you rank soO on the all-time list if he finally wins this time? Yes only 1 GSL win but so many finals, it's pretty impressive

interesting question, I think he still wouldn't be top 5 (Inno, Life, Zest, sOs, Mvp have that locked up (in that order)) but he would be right outside, maybe 6th or 7th.
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paxconsciente
Profile Joined January 2015
Belgium91 Posts
June 17 2017 22:03 GMT
#74
inb4 soo takes 3 games to settle down wins 1 or 2 and runs into tanks till its over
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leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
June 17 2017 23:05 GMT
#75
On June 17 2017 21:28 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 20:42 Fango wrote:
On June 17 2017 17:51 Zaros wrote:
I thought Maru vs Gumiho was a bad series but then I saw Classic vs SoO very disappointing. Hopefully we get a good finals.


Korean finals are never good. Last great finals was in HoTS. I guess Zest vs TY was okay until the end.

Katowice was incredible though. Shows that finals are good when we get evenly matched players

I think Dark vs Stats was a good finals too.

Even though ZvZ, Dark vs Solar was good too.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 17 2017 23:18 GMT
#76
On June 18 2017 06:39 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 06:31 Fatam wrote:
so interesting question, how would you rank soO on the all-time list if he finally wins this time? Yes only 1 GSL win but so many finals, it's pretty impressive

interesting question, I think he still wouldn't be top 5 (Inno, Life, Zest, sOs, Mvp have that locked up (in that order)) but he would be right outside, maybe 6th or 7th.

I mean one GSL title and 5 second places would be incredible tbh. If i think about it i wouldn't necessarily say it is worse than winning three titles.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 17 2017 23:55 GMT
#77
On June 18 2017 06:31 Fatam wrote:
so interesting question, how would you rank soO on the all-time list if he finally wins this time? Yes only 1 GSL win but so many finals, it's pretty impressive


If he wins..

1. Life
2. Mvp
3. Bogus
4. soO
5. Zest
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Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
June 18 2017 00:09 GMT
#78
On June 17 2017 17:55 Charoisaur wrote:
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On June 17 2017 17:36 Frenchy91 wrote:
With Innovation training if he doesn't win this final... Gumiho is not Code S material for me. If there is not a mental block it should be a massacre.

Sure, a gsl finalist is not Code S material

Even more funny if he wins it.
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MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
June 18 2017 04:01 GMT
#79
Sorry sOo, but i'm rooting for GuMiho here. He really needs this premier win
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ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
June 18 2017 04:13 GMT
#80
On June 18 2017 08:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 06:31 Fatam wrote:
so interesting question, how would you rank soO on the all-time list if he finally wins this time? Yes only 1 GSL win but so many finals, it's pretty impressive


If he wins..

1. Life
2. Mvp
3. Bogus
4. soO
5. Zest


I dont wanna off topic but there is no way you can rank MVP above Inno since he played in the beginning era that most of pro hadn't switched to SC2. Other hand, a match fixer shouldn't be in the list.
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