• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:55
CET 09:55
KST 17:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!42$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker? [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1390 users

Community Power Rank v7: Hard decisions - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 05 2017 16:13 GMT
#21
1. (T)TY
2. (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (P)Stats
5. (P)herO[jOin]
6. (T)ByuN
7. (P)Classic
8. (Z)ByuL
9. (T)Maru
10. (Z)Solar

You are a monster
TL+ Member
Alexcalibur1996
Profile Joined February 2016
United States39 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 16:20:53
June 05 2017 16:20 GMT
#22
1.(T)ByuN
2.(T)TY
3.(Z)soO
4.(P)Stats
5.(P)herO
6.(T)INnoVation
7.(Z)Dark
8.(P)Classic
9.(Z)ByuL
10.(Z)Solar

Couldn't decide where to place Maru, so I ended up excluding him from my list
Never play sober.
Nayolbi
Profile Joined November 2013
325 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 16:11:56
June 05 2017 17:08 GMT
#23
1. (T)Maru
2. (Z)soO
3. (T)GuMiho
4. (P)Classic
5. (T)ByuN
6. (P)hero
7. (T)TY
8. (T)INnoVation
9. (Z)Solar
10. (P)Stats


Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 18:11:42
June 05 2017 18:08 GMT
#24
this is (T)Way to hard, nobody is really consistent right now.

1. (P)Stats
2. (P)herO
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (T)TY
5. (Z)Solar
6. (Z)soO
7. (T)aLive
8. (T)ByuN
9. (T)Maru
10. (Z)Dark


and again everyone has forgotten about aLive....
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 18:10:12
June 05 2017 18:08 GMT
#25
1. (P)herO
2. (P)Classic
3. (P)Stats
4. (P)Patience
5. (Z)Dark
6. (T)ByuN
7. (T)TY
8. (Z)Solar
9. (T)Maru
10. (P)sOs
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 05 2017 18:16 GMT
#26
On June 06 2017 03:08 Charoisaur wrote:
this is (T)Way to hard, nobody is really consistent right now.

1. (P)Stats
2. (P)herO
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (T)TY
5. (Z)Solar
6. (Z)soO
7. (T)aLive
8. (T)ByuN
9. (T)Maru
10. (Z)Dark


and again everyone has forgotten about aLive....


INno and Stats are consistent, they took a decent amount of wcs points at all tournaments
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
June 05 2017 18:22 GMT
#27
On June 06 2017 03:16 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 03:08 Charoisaur wrote:
this is (T)Way to hard, nobody is really consistent right now.

1. (P)Stats
2. (P)herO
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (T)TY
5. (Z)Solar
6. (Z)soO
7. (T)aLive
8. (T)ByuN
9. (T)Maru
10. (Z)Dark


and again everyone has forgotten about aLive....


INno and Stats are consistent, they took a decent amount of wcs points at all tournaments

Stats is the only consistent one, Inno disappointed a lot lately (outside of his SSL run).
and even Stats lost in the first round of the super tournament.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 05 2017 18:25 GMT
#28
On June 06 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 03:16 DieuCure wrote:
On June 06 2017 03:08 Charoisaur wrote:
this is (T)Way to hard, nobody is really consistent right now.

1. (P)Stats
2. (P)herO
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (T)TY
5. (Z)Solar
6. (Z)soO
7. (T)aLive
8. (T)ByuN
9. (T)Maru
10. (Z)Dark


and again everyone has forgotten about aLive....


INno and Stats are consistent, they took a decent amount of wcs points at all tournaments

Stats is the only consistent one, Inno disappointed a lot lately (outside of his SSL run).
and even Stats lost in the first round of the super tournament.

If you have to place extremely highly in every tournament you enter to count as "consistent" then we probably never had such a player in korean tournaments. Stats did really well, GSL champion + at least GSL ro8 + SSL 4th place. That's incredibly consistent
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 05 2017 18:31 GMT
#29
  1. (P)Stats
  2. (T)INnoVation
  3. (T)ByuN
  4. (T)aLive
  5. (P)herO
  6. (T)TY
  7. (Z)soO
  8. (P)Classic
  9. (Z)ByuL
  10. (Z)Solar


This was very hard. Feels like level of the top 12 or so is very even, especially with the playofs of 2 starleagues being so different.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-07 12:31:54
June 05 2017 18:35 GMT
#30
1. (P)Stats
2. (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (P)Classic
5. (P)herO
6. (T)GuMiho
7. (Z)ByuL
8. (Z)Solar
9. (Z)Dark
10. (T)TY
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 05 2017 18:37 GMT
#31
On June 06 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 03:16 DieuCure wrote:
On June 06 2017 03:08 Charoisaur wrote:
this is (T)Way to hard, nobody is really consistent right now.

1. (P)Stats
2. (P)herO
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (T)TY
5. (Z)Solar
6. (Z)soO
7. (T)aLive
8. (T)ByuN
9. (T)Maru
10. (Z)Dark


and again everyone has forgotten about aLive....


INno and Stats are consistent, they took a decent amount of wcs points at all tournaments

Stats is the only consistent one, Inno disappointed a lot lately (outside of his SSL run).
and even Stats lost in the first round of the super tournament.


Ye he disappoints but always placed
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
June 05 2017 18:38 GMT
#32
On June 06 2017 03:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 06 2017 03:16 DieuCure wrote:
On June 06 2017 03:08 Charoisaur wrote:
this is (T)Way to hard, nobody is really consistent right now.

1. (P)Stats
2. (P)herO
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (T)TY
5. (Z)Solar
6. (Z)soO
7. (T)aLive
8. (T)ByuN
9. (T)Maru
10. (Z)Dark


and again everyone has forgotten about aLive....


INno and Stats are consistent, they took a decent amount of wcs points at all tournaments

Stats is the only consistent one, Inno disappointed a lot lately (outside of his SSL run).
and even Stats lost in the first round of the super tournament.

If you have to place extremely highly in every tournament you enter to count as "consistent" then we probably never had such a player in korean tournaments. Stats did really well, GSL champion + at least GSL ro8 + SSL 4th place. That's incredibly consistent

Yes Stats is consistent but except him the scene is much more close than usually. Right now I feel like in the top 12 everyone can beat everyone and it wouldn't be an upset. Last year we had several players (TY, Zest, Dark, Stats, ByuN at the end of the year) who were clearly a step above the competition
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 05 2017 18:59 GMT
#33
Last year they had only 4 tournaments, it's hard to say if a player really was dominant or if they had a nice run ( except for Zest S1 ).
TL+ Member
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 21:32:41
June 05 2017 19:12 GMT
#34
Very hard indeed. The top players are fairly equal in skill level. Couple this with the frequent balance updates and we never really see anyone dominate across several tournaments.

I think these are the best players of each race:

(T)aLive, (T)INnoVation, (T)TY

(Z)ByuL, (Z)Dark, (Z)Solar, (Z)soO

(P)Classic, (P)herO, (P)Stats

Will return with a proper ranking after this weeks GSL and SSL.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
ElPres1dente
Profile Joined February 2016
89 Posts
June 05 2017 19:22 GMT
#35
1. (P)Classic
2. (T)INnoVation
3. (T)Maru
4. (Z)soO
5. (P)herO
6. (T)ByuN
7. (T)GuMiho
8. (Z)ByuL
9. (P)Stats
10. (Z)Solar
Lifu Maru Parting
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 05 2017 20:04 GMT
#36
1. (T)TY
2. (P)Stats
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (Z)soO
5. (T)Maru
6. (P)Classic
7. (Z)Dark
8. (T)ByuN
9. (Z)Solar
10. (Z)ByuL
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
June 05 2017 20:21 GMT
#37
1. (T)ByuN
2. (P)Stats
3. (Z)Solar
4. (T)TY
5. (P)herO[jOin]
6. (T)INnoVation
7. (Z)ByuL
8. (P)Classic
9. (T)Maru
10. (T)GuMiho
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 20:28:45
June 05 2017 20:25 GMT
#38
1. (T)ByuN
2. (T)ByuN
3. (T)ByuN
4. (T)ByuN
5. (T)ByuN
6. (T)ByuN
7. (T)ByuN
8. (T)ByuN
9. (T)ByuN
10. (T)ByuN
11. (T)ByuN
12. (T)ByuN
13. (T)ByuN
14. (T)ByuN
15. (T)ByuN
16. (T)ByuN
17. (T)ByuN
18. (T)ByuN
19. (T)ByuN
20. (T)ByuN
My_Fake_Plastic_Luv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 21:19:25
June 05 2017 21:18 GMT
#39
1. (T)ByuN
2. (P)Stats
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (Z)Solar
5. (P)Classic
6. (T)TY
7. (T)Maru
8. (Z)soO
9. (Z)hero
10. (T)GuMiho
11. (Z)ByuL
12. (P)Neeb
13. (T)aLive
14. (Z)Dark

Honestly, it seems very even near the top. I don't think there is much difference between the number one ranked and the 9th. Depending on the match up, seems like anyone could win on any day.
Its going to be a glorious day, I feel my luck could change
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 21:21:08
June 05 2017 21:20 GMT
#40
ok this is impossible. I tried but I wasn't able to pick anybody outstanding at all. Most people who are doing well in one tournament are sucking in the other tournament.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 526
Larva 329
actioN 245
PianO 87
Sharp 62
NotJumperer 21
NaDa 11
Noble 8
Dota 2
Gorgc3934
NeuroSwarm86
League of Legends
JimRising 1160
Counter-Strike
fl0m2375
Stewie2K605
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor134
Other Games
summit1g13646
Happy242
XaKoH 78
goatrope41
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL90
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH168
• LUISG 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota227
League of Legends
• Lourlo3949
• Jankos3060
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 5m
WardiTV Korean Royale
3h 5m
LAN Event
6h 5m
ByuN vs Zoun
TBD vs TriGGeR
Clem vs TBD
IPSL
9h 5m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
11h 5m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d
Wardi Open
1d 3h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.