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olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-01 06:33:13
May 01 2017 06:20 GMT
#21
On May 01 2017 14:50 Fatam wrote:
the laziness comment about most pros is pretty interesting.

Show nested quote +
I don’t have a good answer, but I remember thinking this exact thing before. I think in general, a lot of pros are very… lazy? Like, they don’t take their jobs super seriously. I thought when I got into pro StarCraft, the top players would be like very serious and have a strict practice schedule, and take their health seriously and work on themselves outside the game, but that’s really not the case for most progamers.


Throughout the years foreigners have always said that the "work ethic" criticism was BS and the reason why foreigners can't compete was 100% because koreans had the established teamhouse infrastructure. Maybe I'm reading too much into the comment though.

Well... there is no legitimate teamhouse structure in Korea for months now. Everyone either got their own apartments or started living with their families again.

Edit: nah not really interested in diving down that hole
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 01 2017 06:34 GMT
#22
On May 01 2017 15:18 Finch518 wrote:
I probably live a half hour max from this kid, he was in the paper for the Kespa Cup win. Good for him!

Should post that article somewhere, might be kinda interesting
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6333 Posts
May 01 2017 06:35 GMT
#23
On May 01 2017 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Silver league in 2011... there's a pretty decent chance I played a game against him then

Me too lmao.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 01 2017 07:11 GMT
#24
Very good interview!
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iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
May 01 2017 07:15 GMT
#25
On May 01 2017 15:18 Finch518 wrote:
I probably live a half hour max from this kid, he was in the paper for the Kespa Cup win. Good for him!

thats super sick. any chance you can share the article or something?
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 01 2017 08:17 GMT
#26
On May 01 2017 15:35 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Silver league in 2011... there's a pretty decent chance I played a game against him then

Me too lmao.


I just returned there after a longer absence. Waiting to get match up against the next WCS winner.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
May 01 2017 09:08 GMT
#27
Neeb does it again! Again!
Great job man!
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4067 Posts
May 01 2017 09:28 GMT
#28
what a great guy. nice interview thanks
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StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
May 01 2017 09:37 GMT
#29
Great interview!
Very well thought out questions and interesting insight from neeb.
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Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
May 01 2017 10:53 GMT
#30
On May 01 2017 14:50 Fatam wrote:
the laziness comment about most pros is pretty interesting.

Show nested quote +
I don’t have a good answer, but I remember thinking this exact thing before. I think in general, a lot of pros are very… lazy? Like, they don’t take their jobs super seriously. I thought when I got into pro StarCraft, the top players would be like very serious and have a strict practice schedule, and take their health seriously and work on themselves outside the game, but that’s really not the case for most progamers.


Throughout the years foreigners have always said that the "work ethic" criticism was BS and the reason why foreigners can't compete was 100% because koreans had the established teamhouse infrastructure. Maybe I'm reading too much into the comment though.


You don't think those 2 things would be related? The established structure enforcing work ethic. You can see that in any league sport with small teams. As soon as someone starts investing and hire professional coaches and trainers and enforcing rules and such you see a marked increase in performance even with the exact same players.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
May 01 2017 12:34 GMT
#31
Good try Neeb, but you'll never make me think anything else than Nerchio is a steaming pile of dogshit

+ Show Spoiler +
Joking, joking, I was rooting for Nerchio the whole finals!
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 01 2017 15:45 GMT
#32
I remember watching Neeb when he really didn't have a name, but would come out to all these WCS qualifiers competitions as I sat there and got rocked trying my best, but would always see Neeb do amazing. That's when I knew this kid would be great. I'm happy for Neeb that he won another title. Congrats Neeb, and great interview.
Life?
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 01 2017 19:21 GMT
#33
wow neeb in korea once again
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JokerAi
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany142 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-01 19:26:23
May 01 2017 19:24 GMT
#34
how he won is easy to say adapt or airtoss. All time if i see him paly he do the same bo adapt in to airtoss or adapt only.
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stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
May 01 2017 20:17 GMT
#35
On May 02 2017 04:24 JokerAi wrote:
how he won is easy to say adapt or airtoss. All time if i see him paly he do the same bo adapt in to airtoss or adapt only.

Well, he chooses strategies which work. I don't like it because I think adepts are boring to watch but it's perfectly understandable.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-01 21:59:52
May 01 2017 21:58 GMT
#36
On May 01 2017 11:50 -Kuya wrote:
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On May 01 2017 11:20 HardRevenge wrote:
The lazy perspective has to be accurate I guess. I guess neeb doesn't plan to make a living on starcraft. He's already made 200k off this game, so he can do whatever.


Stephano had the right idea: take a break while you're ahead, invest in medical school, come back and still smash EU ladder years later.

Need is really young, hope he considers similarly.


ngl I thought Stephano quit to do uni and then came back when he'd spent all the $$ he made

On May 02 2017 04:24 JokerAi wrote:
how he won is easy to say adapt or airtoss. All time if i see him paly he do the same bo adapt in to airtoss or adapt only.


As much as I hate the existance of adepts you can't hate him for doing what works. ByuN won blizzcon with broken 3rax but you gotta do what you gotta do
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
May 01 2017 22:29 GMT
#37
You the man Neeb
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States886 Posts
May 01 2017 23:01 GMT
#38
On May 01 2017 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Silver league in 2011... there's a pretty decent chance I played a game against him then


Haha that's pretty awesome. I'm gonna go tell everyone that I used to be better than the guy who just won WCS Austin. Then again, I played OP terran in the WoL days so maybe not...
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 02 2017 01:13 GMT
#39
On May 02 2017 08:01 Kitai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Silver league in 2011... there's a pretty decent chance I played a game against him then


Haha that's pretty awesome. I'm gonna go tell everyone that I used to be better than the guy who just won WCS Austin. Then again, I played OP terran in the WoL days so maybe not...


So did he
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
May 02 2017 02:26 GMT
#40
On May 02 2017 10:13 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2017 08:01 Kitai wrote:
On May 01 2017 11:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Silver league in 2011... there's a pretty decent chance I played a game against him then


Haha that's pretty awesome. I'm gonna go tell everyone that I used to be better than the guy who just won WCS Austin. Then again, I played OP terran in the WoL days so maybe not...


So did he


Neeb took Avilo's advice and switched to Protoss master race and started winning everything though :D
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