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Polt to military, leaves EnVyUs, BlizzCon reseeded

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-14 03:24:39
October 12 2016 23:43 GMT
#1
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(T)Polt has departed team EnVyUs and will forfeit his spot at Blizzcon to complete his mandatory military service. (P)PtitDrogo is the next highest seed and will replace him.

It is unknown if he will permanently retire from progaming, however, given his age (28), it seems unlikely that the former GSL Champion and 8 time Premier tournament winner will return.




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Zacrophage
Profile Joined October 2015
5 Posts
October 12 2016 23:44 GMT
#2
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Captain America :'(
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10055 Posts
October 12 2016 23:44 GMT
#3
i dont understand why is so sudden, doesnt make any sense

thx for everything Polt ♥
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KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
October 12 2016 23:45 GMT
#4
GLHF, Captain america.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
October 12 2016 23:45 GMT
#5
WAIT WHAT? Why so sudden?! Didn't he just move to California to be with his girlfriend not too long ago?!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10055 Posts
October 12 2016 23:46 GMT
#6
i guess Drogo replace him now?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 12 2016 23:46 GMT
#7
Wow that's so sudden. Damn I am guessing they wouldn't let him delay it? There goes a free 10k for showing up!
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15916 Posts
October 12 2016 23:47 GMT
#8
NOOOOOOOO
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2624 Posts
October 12 2016 23:48 GMT
#9
What?
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 12 2016 23:48 GMT
#10
Tears, tears everywhere. ;__;
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 12 2016 23:49 GMT
#11
Wonder if he's getting married too. Kidding aside, seems a bit odd seeing as blizzcon is coming soon. Best of luck Polt! Your WoL and HoTS games were fun to watch.
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
October 12 2016 23:49 GMT
#12
The thing is, Korean military might force him to go... we saw that in OldBoys where Nal_Ra couldn't delay it anymore. I guess it is just independent?
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kell234
Profile Joined July 2014
Russian Federation44 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-12 23:56:55
October 12 2016 23:54 GMT
#13
I think TRUE and Violet must make same!) poor koreans
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
October 12 2016 23:55 GMT
#14
Damn, so close before Blizzcon? That sucks for him (and Terran)
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 12 2016 23:55 GMT
#15
well the timing of this is definitely a surprise
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 12 2016 23:56 GMT
#16


I didn't realize he was 28. Damn.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 12 2016 23:56 GMT
#17
I think this decision makes a lot of sense. Polt knew that he could only leave if he had a successor to the title of "Captain America," and now that a worth successor has arisen, he can forego is mantle in order to continue his life.

That being said, I'm really sad that Hydra and now Polt have had to forfeit their spots. Even though Polt wasn't as dominant as he has been in the past, and he hasn't been playing as well online, he'd always risen to the challenge of Blizzcon.
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HzVee
Profile Joined August 2015
43 Posts
October 12 2016 23:57 GMT
#18
Sad news.
even less terran in blizzcon as well.
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
October 12 2016 23:57 GMT
#19
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15916 Posts
October 13 2016 00:00 GMT
#20
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

Agreed. Polt forfeited his blizzcon spot because the tournament isn't important to him.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 13 2016 00:00 GMT
#21
And with that, I am finished with starcraft
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 13 2016 00:00 GMT
#22
Captain America is doing his duty to protect not only the Americas, but Korea as well. A true hero.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 13 2016 00:01 GMT
#23
On October 13 2016 08:55 Shellshock wrote:
well the timing of this is definitely a surprise

I really seems like he had no choice. Korean government must have been like "military now or don't come back"
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Cashling
Profile Joined May 2015
United States49 Posts
October 13 2016 00:02 GMT
#24
Goodluck Have Fun Polt, before I switched to zerg I studied your every move in game. Thanks for all the help and amazing career.
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redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1721 Posts
October 13 2016 00:02 GMT
#25
Man, so sudden. They could've at least waited until the blzzzcon.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 13 2016 00:03 GMT
#26
On October 13 2016 09:00 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

Agreed. Polt forfeited his blizzcon spot because the tournament isn't important to him.


I'm 90% positive that's not why he isn't going to blizzcon. It sounds like he had no choice and the Korean military is forcing him to do it now (he's 28).
When I think of something else, something will go here
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
October 13 2016 00:04 GMT
#27
So that's what marinelord was spoiling during his bo31 interview !
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 00:10:50
October 13 2016 00:07 GMT
#28
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw

On October 13 2016 09:03 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

Agreed. Polt forfeited his blizzcon spot because the tournament isn't important to him.


I'm 90% positive that's not why he isn't going to blizzcon. It sounds like he had no choice and the Korean military is forcing him to do it now (he's 28).

I'm 100% positive that Charoisaur is 100% positive
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 13 2016 00:09 GMT
#29
On October 13 2016 09:07 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw


If this years Blizzcon plus WESG don't make an improvement the game is kinda dead. Nothing wrong with stating a fact, though I dont know about the making blizzcon seems secondary argument.
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 00:11:31
October 13 2016 00:10 GMT
#30
On October 13 2016 09:07 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw


He's not wrong, though, by saying that Hydra views marriage as more important than Blizzcon or that Polt views not breaking the law as more important than Blizzcon.

It's just annoying how people have to attribute every negative event to proof of Starcraft 2's death or the WCS region lock.

On October 13 2016 09:09 LongShot27 wrote:


If this years Blizzcon plus WESG don't make an improvement the game is kinda dead. Nothing wrong with stating a fact, though I dont know about the making blizzcon seems secondary argument.


Except that what he is stating is really an opinion at this point and not actual proof. It's like people saying daed game because the KT team supposedly disbanded when it actually just moved buildings.
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Cinskywind1
Profile Joined October 2016
17 Posts
October 13 2016 00:10 GMT
#31
This might be the most heart breaking news I've seen on TL and just before Blizzcon Best of luck to him and can't think of a player who has consistantly entertained more than Polt.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 13 2016 00:13 GMT
#32
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mooncifer
Profile Joined October 2012
109 Posts
October 13 2016 00:14 GMT
#33
According to my Korean male friends, when the first time they get call from government, they can make excuse to delay the service, but they cannot delay it to whenever late you want. Seems like there's an extending limitation. After that, you have to register to the training camp on the very day the government appoints.

I don't know Polt's situation, but maybe there came something that made him have no choice.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 13 2016 00:15 GMT
#34
On October 13 2016 09:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
https://twitter.com/StarCrafteSport/status/786358761208238080


RIP Nerchio, at least Neeb should get out of his
SKN1995
Profile Joined September 2016
Japan204 Posts
October 13 2016 00:16 GMT
#35
He's a fan favorite for sure so a lot of people will miss him at BlizzCon but realistically speaking ByuN is so infinitely better so its no loss for competition.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 13 2016 00:17 GMT
#36
On October 13 2016 09:16 SKN1995 wrote:
He's a fan favorite for sure so a lot of people will miss him at BlizzCon but realistically speaking ByuN is so infinitely better so its no loss for competition.


What does this comment even mean?
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 13 2016 00:18 GMT
#37
Sucky timing for him. Pretty lame that two people who were meant to be there couldn't make it. Drogo/violet/elazer at blizzcon doesn't exactly fill me with hype.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 00:21:11
October 13 2016 00:18 GMT
#38
TT

My favorite WoL terran, one of the smartest and most charismatic player ever, who won in every expansion. What else is there to say...

I was actually surprised about his age while checking liquipedia earlier this year, so i kinda foresaw that retirement with the military and all, but definitely not right before blizzcon

Farewell Polt, you will be missed!


Oh and Drogo you better not throw away this opportunity
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 13 2016 00:20 GMT
#39
On October 13 2016 09:18 ArtyK wrote:
TT

My favorite WoL terran, one of the smartest and most charismatic player ever, who won in every expansion. What else is there to say...

I was actually surprised about his age while checking liquipedia earlier this year, so i kinda foresaw that retirement with the military and all, but definitely not right before blizzcon

Farewell Polt, you will be missed!


Oh and Drogo you better not throw away this opportunity


Asking Drogo not to throw something? I feel like I know what he would say.
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billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
October 13 2016 00:21 GMT
#40
Drogo huh? Meh. I'll miss not seeing Polt play at Blizzcon. Not only for his play but just for more diversity within the event. Now we're down to 2 Terrans. But watching Polt play is always something i've looked forward to. You just never could tell when Polt would turn it on & put forth a magical run. He will surely be missed!
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
October 13 2016 00:22 GMT
#41
Also snute must be pretty pissed about this groups redraw lol
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
October 13 2016 00:23 GMT
#42
Poltuuuuuuuuuu :c
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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
October 13 2016 00:25 GMT
#43
And uThermal just 15 points behind PtitDrogo. Either way more interesting for foreigners.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17665 Posts
October 13 2016 00:26 GMT
#44
WHAT
THE
FUCK

first Hydra, that was ok, but Polt too?
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15916 Posts
October 13 2016 00:27 GMT
#45
On October 13 2016 09:20 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:18 ArtyK wrote:
TT

My favorite WoL terran, one of the smartest and most charismatic player ever, who won in every expansion. What else is there to say...

I was actually surprised about his age while checking liquipedia earlier this year, so i kinda foresaw that retirement with the military and all, but definitely not right before blizzcon

Farewell Polt, you will be missed!


Oh and Drogo you better not throw away this opportunity


Asking Drogo not to throw something? I feel like I know what he would say.

well, against Nerchio, Solar and TY I don't think it will make a difference if he throws or not.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
October 13 2016 00:41 GMT
#46
On October 13 2016 09:09 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:07 Penev wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw


If this years Blizzcon plus WESG don't make an improvement the game is kinda dead. Nothing wrong with stating a fact, though I dont know about the making blizzcon seems secondary argument.

I don't think there are a lot of ppl who aren't worried about the future of SC2 at this point.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 13 2016 00:43 GMT
#47
On October 13 2016 09:41 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:09 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:07 Penev wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw


If this years Blizzcon plus WESG don't make an improvement the game is kinda dead. Nothing wrong with stating a fact, though I dont know about the making blizzcon seems secondary argument.

I don't think there are a lot of ppl who aren't worried about the future of SC2 at this point.


Oh we've got a lot of people with their heads in the sand
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Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
October 13 2016 00:43 GMT
#48
Wow Great Bracket for Neeb
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 13 2016 00:44 GMT
#49
On October 13 2016 09:43 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:41 Penev wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:09 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:07 Penev wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw


If this years Blizzcon plus WESG don't make an improvement the game is kinda dead. Nothing wrong with stating a fact, though I dont know about the making blizzcon seems secondary argument.

I don't think there are a lot of ppl who aren't worried about the future of SC2 at this point.


Oh we've got a lot of people with their heads in the sand


And a lot of people who are crying that the sky is falling.
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JuanDi
Profile Joined February 2016
45 Posts
October 13 2016 00:55 GMT
#50
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?


2-3 years totally. Foreigners are getting money now and so there's opportunity for more teams to get sponsors and for them to grow. In korea the scene will hold up too, since it has a good establishment. It is not 2-3 years I'm worried about, but the very far future were current pros are either too old or decide to move on for other reasons. Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I feel like not enough people will enter the scene to make it through.

Then again, BW is barely even alive and is making a comeback. Be realistic, do you think the established korean scene will disappear just 3 years from now? when all the pros are still hard at work to compete and fans have grown thanks to the feats of Byun and Neeb and even Dark? Would seem like a lot of wasted opportunities from sponsors. And for the foreign scene it would be even more ridiculous to think it has only 2-3 years left. Like I said, since foreigners now have a chance, foreign teams will be able to get more and better sponsors.

The scene is not dying, it is estabilizing.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 13 2016 00:58 GMT
#51
Sad to see Polt go, he shall be forever remembered as one of the most fun dudes. Also the America thing or whatever.

Also never forget his great interview with Wax where he just said with a straight face "oh I don't sleep" in response to asking how he does both school and SC2. Doesn't even give it any thought, says it like its the most natural thing in the world.

On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?


I love this post. No capitalization, terrible grammar, a bunch of sentence fragments and then WHAM a random semicolon out of nowhere. It's like someone thought "In order to make up for this post barely making sense, I need to use an advanced punctuation mark in order to balance it out and show how serious I really am". Truly a work of art.

Really speaks to the duality of existence don't you think?
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SplattedOne
Profile Joined May 2013
155 Posts
October 13 2016 00:59 GMT
#52
On October 13 2016 09:27 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:20 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:18 ArtyK wrote:
TT

My favorite WoL terran, one of the smartest and most charismatic player ever, who won in every expansion. What else is there to say...

I was actually surprised about his age while checking liquipedia earlier this year, so i kinda foresaw that retirement with the military and all, but definitely not right before blizzcon

Farewell Polt, you will be missed!


Oh and Drogo you better not throw away this opportunity


Asking Drogo not to throw something? I feel like I know what he would say.

well, against Nerchio, Solar and TY I don't think it will make a difference if he throws or not.

I mean, he can at least beat Nerchio.
I wasbanned fromthis
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
113 Posts
October 13 2016 00:59 GMT
#53
whoever bought polt envyus merch got ltd goods
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
October 13 2016 01:00 GMT
#54
FUCK! WTF!
AgentScholar
Profile Joined March 2016
United States39 Posts
October 13 2016 01:05 GMT
#55
Has he finished his degree yet?
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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
October 13 2016 01:05 GMT
#56
Sad for Polt, I suppose he had no choice. Korean government should have let him go for a last ride...

Hope you guys at TL will make a big tribute/nostalgia post for him, but take your time : Polt deserves the best article possible (no pressure though ^^)

+ Show Spoiler +
PtiDrogo must be hallucinating right now
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Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
October 13 2016 01:13 GMT
#57
Damn, Polt's been one of my favorites for a while, sad that he's gotta go D:
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 13 2016 01:16 GMT
#58
See ya space cowboy
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i_love_polt
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2 Posts
October 13 2016 01:19 GMT
#59
On October 13 2016 09:00 LongShot27 wrote:
And with that, I am finished with starcraft

+1 Bye.
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AgentScholar
Profile Joined March 2016
United States39 Posts
October 13 2016 01:20 GMT
#60
On October 13 2016 09:10 FrkFrJss wrote:

It's just annoying how people have to attribute every negative event to proof of Starcraft 2's death or the WCS region lock.


Agreed, many people let this game's popularity go because they just believe the game will die. But for games with more "dumb" players, they don't "rationally" think on the weakness of their game and just play it so game is alive.
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
October 13 2016 01:21 GMT
#61
how can this stuff not be figured out before hand? every year people drop out of blizzcon, or don't bother practicing for it. it's a joke. what other game has players/teams just up and drop out of the premiere tournament with regularity? you can't tell me polt can't delay his military service for, you know, one week, especially when he hasn't said anything on this topic previously
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
October 13 2016 01:22 GMT
#62
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!
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sc2randomize
Profile Joined November 2015
13 Posts
October 13 2016 01:22 GMT
#63
There's always CS:GO, guys :D
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
October 13 2016 01:26 GMT
#64
rip great keyboard warrior

may you snipe NK's nexuses with epic drop play forever.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 13 2016 01:28 GMT
#65
On October 13 2016 10:19 i_love_polt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:00 LongShot27 wrote:
And with that, I am finished with starcraft

+1 Bye.


Polt was one of the last of the original high skill SC2 players that still played regularly, and the last one I cared to watch. And with this, their watch is ended.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 13 2016 01:33 GMT
#66
On October 13 2016 09:00 LongShot27 wrote:
And with that, I am finished with starcraft


Good timing. I hear there is no more GSL anyway.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15916 Posts
October 13 2016 01:41 GMT
#67
On October 13 2016 10:28 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 10:19 i_love_polt wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:00 LongShot27 wrote:
And with that, I am finished with starcraft

+1 Bye.


Polt was one of the last of the original high skill SC2 players that still played regularly, and the last one I cared to watch. And with this, their watch is ended.

How can you not care about Byun?
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H0bgawblin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States109 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 01:47:05
October 13 2016 01:46 GMT
#68
POLT! NOOOOOOOO!!!! There have been so many, "end of an era" statements, but this is HUGE! DAMNIT! I remember this guy in early wings of liberty splitting marines against tanks and Tastosis saying, "this style rarely makes a champion". Damnit all, I am actually upset.

I was totally that guy that made fun of people who "mourned" Michael Jackson's death, but I am now a giant hypocrite.
Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
October 13 2016 01:56 GMT
#69
TT sad to see Polt go. He was always one of my favorites. At least him and DRG can go military together. GG SK Archon
I have a question...
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
October 13 2016 02:12 GMT
#70
Can't believe I'm feeling like this over a gamer but my heart dropped. This guy is an absolute fucking legend and the reason why I love SC2. I really wish he would have at least played out Blizzcon so we could give him a proper send off. Thanks and GL Polt
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
October 13 2016 02:17 GMT
#71
I guess this explains his performance in KFC earlier this week...
He is certainly already out of practice. Going to Blizzcon probably means just getting eliminated in the first round.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 13 2016 02:37 GMT
#72
On October 13 2016 10:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 10:28 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 13 2016 10:19 i_love_polt wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:00 LongShot27 wrote:
And with that, I am finished with starcraft

+1 Bye.


Polt was one of the last of the original high skill SC2 players that still played regularly, and the last one I cared to watch. And with this, their watch is ended.

How can you not care about Byun?


probably 2 .5years of not existing
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19228 Posts
October 13 2016 02:40 GMT
#73
I wonder if he couldnt get an extension to his mandatory service date.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 13 2016 02:44 GMT
#74
That's a bummer, but it seems like it's an urgent summon. I hope we get details about it eventually.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
October 13 2016 02:47 GMT
#75
Dang....I thought Polt was going to win one more time before going to Military service, oh well...will see him again soon! GL Polt !
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Raineeb
Profile Joined September 2016
Philippines39 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 03:08:06
October 13 2016 03:06 GMT
#76
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?


Well we are still here enjoying the game and lots of new people coming in and enjoying the game w/ more fun Coop, Arcade (Carbot!) and other modes.

I guess these people who are saying that SC2 is dead are the people who are not playing it at the moment.
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dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
October 13 2016 03:11 GMT
#77
A surprise for sure but not that big of a surprise considering his abysmal showing at Kung Fu Cup. Guess you could've seen it coming... since yesterday?
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
October 13 2016 03:17 GMT
#78
Well this is sudden.
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CKSide
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States223 Posts
October 13 2016 03:24 GMT
#79
Our Terran hope.... oh man, this is most upsetting. First Hydra, now Polt. Ay yea yea....
Check
DerMeister
Profile Joined May 2011
United States57 Posts
October 13 2016 03:37 GMT
#80
bad news for Snute. He was taken out of a group with 3 P, and ZvP is his best MU right now. RIP
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 13 2016 03:47 GMT
#81
Polt D: Shame he isn't gonna be at blizzcon, hope he does well in life. always loved the guy
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
October 13 2016 04:13 GMT
#82
On October 13 2016 09:10 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:07 Penev wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw


He's not wrong, though, by saying that Hydra views marriage as more important than Blizzcon or that Polt views not breaking the law as more important than Blizzcon.



This statement is so wrong in a level that it's not even funny.

Marriage is one of the biggest commitments in life especially for East Asians. People quit job to get married is very common in Asia and pissing off your in-law family is the last thing to do here.

And if you think not breaking the law that can result in a very harsh punishment is better than forfeiting Blizzcon then you are either very young or very naive.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
vexille
Profile Joined January 2013
8 Posts
October 13 2016 04:36 GMT
#83
fuck tha army
ProBell
Profile Joined May 2012
Thailand145 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 04:40:47
October 13 2016 04:40 GMT
#84
OMFGGGGGGG The $200k then go next year instead???

Now I dont feel as bad I won't get to go to blizzcon. He will surely be cheering for his old teammate Byun.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 13 2016 04:49 GMT
#85
On October 13 2016 13:40 ProBell wrote:
OMFGGGGGGG The $200k then go next year instead???

Now I dont feel as bad I won't get to go to blizzcon. He will surely be cheering for his old teammate Byun.


Conscript army doesnt work like that. Finnish army isn't strict as south korean army but when you go past 28-29 year, shit is starting to happen.

I think Polt had no option but harsh punishment or go to army.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 13 2016 04:51 GMT
#86
Unlucky Nerchio
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SeriousLus
Profile Joined July 2012
169 Posts
October 13 2016 05:01 GMT
#87
baaaaad news, so sad and sooo sudden
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
October 13 2016 05:04 GMT
#88
On October 13 2016 13:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 13:40 ProBell wrote:
OMFGGGGGGG The $200k then go next year instead???

Now I dont feel as bad I won't get to go to blizzcon. He will surely be cheering for his old teammate Byun.


Conscript army doesnt work like that. Finnish army isn't strict as south korean army but when you go past 28-29 year, shit is starting to happen.

I think Polt had no option but harsh punishment or go to army.


It seems that skipping would result in 18 months jail time (and he would still have to complete the military service later). So yeah not the law you want to break.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 13 2016 05:08 GMT
#89
On October 13 2016 13:13 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:10 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:07 Penev wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw


He's not wrong, though, by saying that Hydra views marriage as more important than Blizzcon or that Polt views not breaking the law as more important than Blizzcon.



This statement is so wrong in a level that it's not even funny.

Marriage is one of the biggest commitments in life especially for East Asians. People quit job to get married is very common in Asia and pissing off your in-law family is the last thing to do here.

And if you think not breaking the law that can result in a very harsh punishment is better than forfeiting Blizzcon then you are either very young or very naive.


Yo....didn't you read the quote that I was agreeing with? The quote said that the biggest SC2 tournament of the year seems less important to Hydra and Polt. And I said that he was not wrong in this statement.

Hydra does view marriage as more important (obviously), and Polt does view the summons from his country as more important than a video game tournament (obviously).

So....I'm not sure how you read my statement completely backwards.
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TheHumanLife
Profile Joined September 2016
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 05:26:39
October 13 2016 05:17 GMT
#90
this is what happen when you have to deal with the North Korea. As long as those pigs live, many male Koreans will be forced to waste their 2 years for that. Really sucks for Polt. I already wasted 2 years there not long ago.

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insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
October 13 2016 05:30 GMT
#91
99% sure he was forced to do that.
Less is more.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
October 13 2016 05:32 GMT
#92
On October 13 2016 14:08 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 13:13 Veldril wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:10 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:07 Penev wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw


He's not wrong, though, by saying that Hydra views marriage as more important than Blizzcon or that Polt views not breaking the law as more important than Blizzcon.



This statement is so wrong in a level that it's not even funny.

Marriage is one of the biggest commitments in life especially for East Asians. People quit job to get married is very common in Asia and pissing off your in-law family is the last thing to do here.

And if you think not breaking the law that can result in a very harsh punishment is better than forfeiting Blizzcon then you are either very young or very naive.


Yo....didn't you read the quote that I was agreeing with? The quote said that the biggest SC2 tournament of the year seems less important to Hydra and Polt. And I said that he was not wrong in this statement.

Hydra does view marriage as more important (obviously), and Polt does view the summons from his country as more important than a video game tournament (obviously).

So....I'm not sure how you read my statement completely backwards.

So far I have seen you only go to military in winter in South Korea. You have to do it till you are 28yo or you have to leave South Korea forever.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12780 Posts
October 13 2016 05:45 GMT
#93
No no no no no fuck! Fuck... poor Polt... poor viewers having to cope with even more P/Z proportionally...

It's very cool for Drogo tho, hopefully he will train hard for it.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 05:58:46
October 13 2016 05:54 GMT
#94
jesus christ what a news, i really had high hopes for polt as a player at the global final + building up a huge career as a coach in envyUS with his huge experience within the esport scene

and ptitdrogo somewhat manage to go to blizzcon hahaha

better not throw this opportunity away :D
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 13 2016 05:59 GMT
#95
another terran lost. The Korean military service sure fucks up peoples lives
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
TheHumanLife
Profile Joined September 2016
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 06:09:04
October 13 2016 06:00 GMT
#96
Ripperino still 0 terran from WCS Circuit after Polt left... terrans in foreign scene are having hard time for sure. However, ByuN and TY will show terran power in blizzcon. As a random player, I will always cheer for the weakest race.
baiesradu
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Romania150 Posts
October 13 2016 06:01 GMT
#97
I'm sorry to hear that . Good luck to him in his next projects !
Regarding the future of SC2 you never know .For me brood war was awesome because it created passions, beautiful moments in my life before I was even aware that Korea had a competitive scene. By the time I discovered that SC 2 was coming out and it cashed in on the fame of sc1 . And the passion of the people involved followed sc2 . You can say what you want about its bleak future but brood war esports international scene has never looked as good as sc2 international scene.
And there is still passion for the game. I watched the kespa cup and I was so happy to hear the commentators enjoy and love the game. I loved that Neeb won. I'm looking forward to homestory cup and blizzcon. If foreigners want to create something now is the time. Korea doesn't have to be mekka of esports. They have to be the best at it to keep this title.
I love Starcraft .
Infiiiniity
Profile Joined April 2015
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 06:04:04
October 13 2016 06:03 GMT
#98
First Mvp, then MKP, & MMA and now Polt I started watching SC2 because of these guys. The greatest terrans have left the scene
suddendeathTV
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden388 Posts
October 13 2016 06:03 GMT
#99
On October 13 2016 14:17 TheHumanLife wrote:
this is what happen when you have to deal with the North Korea. As long as those pigs live, many male Koreans will be forced to waste their 2 years for that. Really sucks for Polt. I already wasted 2 years there not long ago.


It's so funny that your name is "TheHumanLife".

I rest my case.
Information is everything
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
October 13 2016 06:06 GMT
#100
:/
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christophequirion
Profile Joined October 2009
France82 Posts
October 13 2016 06:07 GMT
#101
On October 13 2016 14:54 Makro wrote:
jesus christ what a news, i really had high hopes for polt as a player at the global final + building up a huge career as a coach in envyUS with his huge experience within the esport scene

and ptitdrogo somewhat manage to go to blizzcon hahaha

better not throw this opportunity away :D



Nerchio in Drogo's group, and Solar and TY... he better start practicing super hardcore...
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 13 2016 06:10 GMT
#102
Polt is my fav player.

I've followed him since the day he won super GSL tournament when he was on Prime team.

He should have changed his nick to Poltimus when on Prime.

GG Poltimus Prime
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
October 13 2016 06:15 GMT
#103
So sad not to see Polt at Blizzcon. On the other hand, who would have thought that 6 foreigners would have qualified for Blizzcon? If TRUE or Violet withdraw, then uThermal would make it.
AnungUnRama
Profile Joined April 2016
14 Posts
October 13 2016 06:21 GMT
#104
If Polt had announced this sooner, would Hydra have been in Group A and perhaps been able to play and then go to Korea for his wedding? If he advanced he might have been able to fly back after the wedding.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 13 2016 06:30 GMT
#105
On October 13 2016 15:00 TheHumanLife wrote:
Ripperino still 0 terran from WCS Circuit after Polt left... terrans in foreign scene are having hard time for sure. However, ByuN and TY will show terran power in blizzcon. As a random player, I will always cheer for the weakest race.


Y'all really are taught to hate them huh?
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
AaGaM
Profile Joined October 2015
19 Posts
October 13 2016 06:35 GMT
#106
At this point I'm really considering not to even watch WCS global, feel like i losing interest in it.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 13 2016 06:39 GMT
#107
So Polt has essentially just retired, right? Quite sudden for one of the best ever.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
October 13 2016 06:56 GMT
#108
Damn, that news hit like a truck... It's so sudden... Goodbye and best of luck in everything you do Polt, we will sincerely miss you. <3

On another note, Drogo (Throwgo ?) hype !
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
October 13 2016 06:56 GMT
#109
Sad to hear about Polt retiring this year, but it's in no way unexpected. The clock is ticking for any korean player over 25.

On that note I also expect HyuN, Bomber, and Stork to go as well, since all three are the same age (28) as Polt.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
October 13 2016 07:14 GMT
#110
Ptitdrogo gotta be pumped.
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 13 2016 07:18 GMT
#111
Sad news, Ive always loved watching Polt play. Hoping he comes back once his service is done
Some times you just gotta wish...
Infiiiniity
Profile Joined April 2015
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 07:29:48
October 13 2016 07:26 GMT
#112
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 13 2016 07:28 GMT
#113
Good luck Polt! Along with MVP, you were the most inspiring and successful terran that I learned so much from. The final big terran of the old days is gone now .
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 13 2016 07:46 GMT
#114
Crazy news. I knew Polt planned to play for a few more years at least, since he signed a multi-year contract with Envy. He was definitely not planning to do this and had no choice. So sudden .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
October 13 2016 07:48 GMT
#115
Polt...

Definitely one of my favorite terrans back then...
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 13 2016 07:50 GMT
#116
Nerchio in group of death and Neeb got 2 tosses and TRUE.

NA conspiracy
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Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
October 13 2016 07:52 GMT
#117
This was expected - I mean, Captain America can't just allow Hydra to infiltrate the military unchecked, can he?

jokes aside, I'm really sad about this. Polt is such a fun guy and I always enjoyed watching him play. T.T
Hope we'll still see him around in some way.
Feisty
Profile Joined December 2013
Vatican City State35 Posts
October 13 2016 07:53 GMT
#118
My favorite player since I started watching 5 years ago. A player with the charisma to match his amazing playstyle. I'm sure he'll be as successful in military service and beyond as he was in SC2. GG's
Polt why so God
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
October 13 2016 07:55 GMT
#119
On October 13 2016 15:07 christophequirion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 14:54 Makro wrote:
jesus christ what a news, i really had high hopes for polt as a player at the global final + building up a huge career as a coach in envyUS with his huge experience within the esport scene

and ptitdrogo somewhat manage to go to blizzcon hahaha

better not throw this opportunity away :D



Nerchio in Drogo's group, and Solar and TY... he better start practicing super hardcore...

Well, at least if he manages to get out of his group, he'll be set for a deep run having practiced against all three races.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 07:57:16
October 13 2016 07:56 GMT
#120
Fuck this

an abrupt end to one of the most entertaining sc2 players of all-time. To think I once hated Polt for talking smack about Jinro.
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Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
October 13 2016 07:57 GMT
#121
Um, go to the military after Blizzcon? -_-

Sorry if I'm ignorant of any sort of registration dates or w/e, but this seems silly.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 08:08:55
October 13 2016 08:05 GMT
#122
you really think you can decide you can go to military now or 2 weeks later? Either now or next year. Polt is 29 next year, it means he is over 28 and have to leave South Korea permanently. 28 is the latest chance to go military.

edit: actually america is in the same position. I know there is no military enforcement but if america calls you, you better don't fefuse it otherwise you have to leave america permanently very likely.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
weikor
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria580 Posts
October 13 2016 08:06 GMT
#123
Its a strict system, and im very sure it isnt up to you when you attend the military.

Cant really blame korea either, i mean with the north threatening nukes on your capital.

Honestly, polt isnt more than a gaming celebrity, and although hes much more known than Random Korean XY he still has to go do his military service.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
October 13 2016 08:10 GMT
#124
Poooltttttt NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
October 13 2016 08:11 GMT
#125
As many have already posted, it's was either now or never, and if it's never Polt can no longer set foot on Korean soil or risk be arrested AND have his and his family's reputation ruined.

This is a case of the korean military saying "NOW POLT!" Blizzcon be damned.

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bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
October 13 2016 08:16 GMT
#126
turns out polt isnt american afterall
XiZeL
Profile Joined July 2014
Switzerland92 Posts
October 13 2016 08:17 GMT
#127
how can people be saying the game is dead. for me the Korean scene has never been so exciting. the international scene is at its best and having international players being upon the top earners of the year.
we have a non Korean winning a Korean event and we still have 2 events that will earn the winner 200k each.
and keeping in mind all the match fixing scandals at the end of last year having us loose some of the greatest of all time.


i have never been so hyped about starcraft even if i lost my all time favorite player i have become a fan of players outside my favorite race.
I watch more starcraft than i play it
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
October 13 2016 08:25 GMT
#128
On October 13 2016 09:00 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

Agreed. Polt forfeited his blizzcon spot because the tournament isn't important to him.



youre like a whiny manchild :D
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
October 13 2016 08:27 GMT
#129
damn
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
October 13 2016 08:27 GMT
#130
On October 13 2016 09:00 LongShot27 wrote:
And with that, I am finished with starcraft


Well I'm quite sure nobody wants whiny random noname NA player with this kind of attitude in the game/team anyways. I think i never saw anything positive from you since i joined TL dude, u got some problems.
twitch.tv/pharaphobia
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
October 13 2016 08:38 GMT
#131
That's just sad. I just wanted to see one last hurrah at Blizzcon against high level competition.

And it makes it even less understandable that he originally signed a multi-year contract with EnVy. Did he not realize?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
October 13 2016 08:57 GMT
#132
On October 13 2016 17:38 Elentos wrote:
That's just sad. I just wanted to see one last hurrah at Blizzcon against high level competition.

And it makes it even less understandable that he originally signed a multi-year contract with EnVy. Did he not realize?

Weird isn't it? Looks like a sudden chance of plans. Maybe he was counting on some sort of exemption rule he misunderstood or something like that..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18385 Posts
October 13 2016 09:04 GMT
#133
On October 13 2016 17:38 Elentos wrote:
That's just sad. I just wanted to see one last hurrah at Blizzcon against high level competition.

And it makes it even less understandable that he originally signed a multi-year contract with EnVy. Did he not realize?


Even Polt can be stupid sometimes :p
Eiltonn
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany307 Posts
October 13 2016 09:04 GMT
#134
This really sucks. Best of luck and health to Polt.

P.S. good thing Byun made it to Blizzcon
I <3 Mvp
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 13 2016 09:12 GMT
#135
I guess Fionn won't be watching this year
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
October 13 2016 09:16 GMT
#136
This just makes his crappy Kung Fu Cup performance even more upsetting.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FFgringo
Profile Joined December 2015
44 Posts
October 13 2016 09:18 GMT
#137
Sad for Polt.
Best of luck to Ptitdrogo, it's gonna be hard.
Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
October 13 2016 09:18 GMT
#138
Why does a 28 year old have mandatory millitary service?
Do something today that your future self will be thankful for.
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
October 13 2016 09:19 GMT
#139
On October 13 2016 18:18 Jan1997 wrote:
Why does a 28 year old have mandatory millitary service?


Because everyone in korea do?
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SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 09:23:41
October 13 2016 09:23 GMT
#140
Anyone know how they did the seeding for the new groups?

It seems like most wcs player just moved up 1 rank and got seeded accordingly(#1 wcs vs #8kr, 2#wcs vs #7kr etc.). For some reason Drogo, Elazer and Violet seem to be on the wrong spot though. Like e.g. Dark as #1kr should be playing vs #8 wcs(drogo) but instead he plays vs violet who is #6 now with the new seeding.

Seems a bit odd to seed everyone based on the wcs ranking except for 3 players.
Progamer
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 13 2016 09:25 GMT
#141
Thanks for the memories Polt
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 09:33:53
October 13 2016 09:29 GMT
#142
Fuck...

2 T left. Will ByuN and TY pull off a Dark - Solar SSL ?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 13 2016 09:33 GMT
#143
On October 13 2016 18:23 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
Anyone know how they did the seeding for the new groups?

It seems like most wcs player just moved up 1 rank and got seeded accordingly(#1 wcs vs #8kr, 2#wcs vs #7kr etc.). For some reason Drogo, Elazer and Violet seem to be on the wrong spot though. Like e.g. Dark as #1kr should be playing vs #8 wcs(drogo) but instead he plays vs violet who is #6 now with the new seeding.

Seems a bit odd to seed everyone based on the wcs ranking except for 3 players.


Good catch, something is wrong.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
October 13 2016 09:34 GMT
#144
On October 13 2016 18:33 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 18:23 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
Anyone know how they did the seeding for the new groups?

It seems like most wcs player just moved up 1 rank and got seeded accordingly(#1 wcs vs #8kr, 2#wcs vs #7kr etc.). For some reason Drogo, Elazer and Violet seem to be on the wrong spot though. Like e.g. Dark as #1kr should be playing vs #8 wcs(drogo) but instead he plays vs violet who is #6 now with the new seeding.

Seems a bit odd to seed everyone based on the wcs ranking except for 3 players.


Good catch, something is wrong.

yeah don't get how it's done either
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 09:37:10
October 13 2016 09:37 GMT
#145
This is turning into a WCS Europe reboot, minus MMA, Mvp and Stephano.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 09:37:26
October 13 2016 09:37 GMT
#146
Btw, it's fucking crazy that the 15 points Drogo made in the Winter season are making a huge difference now. He is just 15 points ahead of uThermal.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1890 Posts
October 13 2016 09:46 GMT
#147
Wow only two Terrans left in Blizzcon now, what grim times, ZPCraft all over the place right now
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 13 2016 09:50 GMT
#148
On October 13 2016 18:46 Creager wrote:
Wow only two Terrans left in Blizzcon now, what grim times, ZPCraft all over the place right now


time to try out my new tinfoil hat. TY will have visa problems and has to withdraw, and we all know it's took long of a trip for ByuN to make.
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
October 13 2016 09:52 GMT
#149
wow so suddenly with no signs...i hope he comes back to the game when hes done. :'( polt fighting
I'm terranfying
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
October 13 2016 10:02 GMT
#150
Always liked Polt's attitude. Don't think he had any choice in this.

Thanks for the entertaining games over the last couple of years, Polt, and good luck in the military!
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
ilililililililiii
Profile Joined October 2013
United States93 Posts
October 13 2016 10:04 GMT
#151
On October 13 2016 08:56 FrkFrJss wrote:
I think this decision makes a lot of sense. Polt knew that he could only leave if he had a successor to the title of "Captain America," and now that a worth successor has arisen, he can forego is mantle in order to continue his life.

That being said, I'm really sad that Hydra and now Polt have had to forfeit their spots. Even though Polt wasn't as dominant as he has been in the past, and he hasn't been playing as well online, he'd always risen to the challenge of Blizzcon.



haha ayyy
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
October 13 2016 10:19 GMT
#152
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
October 13 2016 10:23 GMT
#153
You're right the seeding isn't done properly, need Blizzard to shed some light on this.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 13 2016 10:30 GMT
#154
This Blizzcon is cursed! I'm not even gonna watch it... Good luck Polt! I wanna see you crushing on WCS again after you come back. Cap America forever!
sunbeams are never made like me...
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 10:32:45
October 13 2016 10:30 GMT
#155
I guess he postponed the military too long and now he no longer has a choice in the matter?

This really sucks though as there's now only 2 terrans left in Blizzcon. Between this and the bad time zone and usually huge technical issues I might just watch some vods.

I hope Drogo practices like a madman coming weeks.
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proortoss
Profile Joined October 2016
China14 Posts
October 13 2016 10:58 GMT
#156
good luck to explore something new out side of the loop.....
nut cracker
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
October 13 2016 10:58 GMT
#157
when are the groups played? Did they announce the full schedule yet?
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 11:12:47
October 13 2016 11:05 GMT
#158
On October 13 2016 18:23 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
Anyone know how they did the seeding for the new groups?

It seems like most wcs player just moved up 1 rank and got seeded accordingly(#1 wcs vs #8kr, 2#wcs vs #7kr etc.). For some reason Drogo, Elazer and Violet seem to be on the wrong spot though. Like e.g. Dark as #1kr should be playing vs #8 wcs(drogo) but instead he plays vs violet who is #6 now with the new seeding.

Seems a bit odd to seed everyone based on the wcs ranking except for 3 players.

You are correct. The seeding is not traditional all the way through.

Here are the groups as they stand now:
+ Show Spoiler +
A                 B                C                D
#1 korea (dark) #1 wcs (neeb) #2 wcs (showt) #2 korea (solar)
#4 wcs (snute) #4 korea (zest) #3 korea (byun) #3 wcs (nerchio)
#5 korea (stats) #5 wcs (true) #7 korea (dear) #6 korea (ty)
#6 wcs (violet) #8 korea (pati) #7 wcs (elazer) #8 wcs (pdrogo)


It seems they have seeded the groups by interleaving the Korea and WCS seeds so that the average seed of both groups stays the same, alternating korea wcs wcs korea, and wcs korea korea wcs.

Here are the seeds that those groups represent:
+ Show Spoiler +
1  #1 korea   dark
2 #1 wcs neeb
3 #2 wcs showtime
4 #2 korea solar
5 #3 wcs nerchio
6 #3 korea byun
7 #4 korea zest
8 #4 wcs snute
9 #5 korea stats
10 #5 wcs true
11 #7 korea dear
12 #6 korea ty
13 #8 wcs ptitdrogo
14 #7 wcs elazer
15 #8 korea patience
16 #6 wcs violet


As you can see, it all goes well according to the formula until the 11th seed, which should be #6 wcs (violet) but instead is #7 korea (dear). Almost all of the seeds from 11 to 16 do not follow the pattern, which also causes #8 wcs (ptitdrogo) not to be in the same group as #1 korea as we would expect.

Here are the seeds corrected to follow the pattern set by seeds 1-10:
+ Show Spoiler +
1  #1 korea   dark
2 #1 wcs neeb
3 #2 wcs showtime
4 #2 korea solar
5 #3 wcs nerchio
6 #3 korea byun
7 #4 korea zest
8 #4 wcs snute
9 #5 korea stats
10 #5 wcs true
11 #6 wcs violet
12 #6 korea ty
13 #7 wcs elazer
14 #7 korea dear
15 #8 korea patience
16 #8 wcs ptitdrogo


Lastly, below are the groups that these seeds would produce:
+ Show Spoiler +
A                 B                C                D
#1 korea (dark) #1 wcs (neeb) #2 wcs (showt) #2 korea (solar)
#4 wcs (snute) #4 korea (zest) #3 korea (byun) #3 wcs (nerchio)
#5 korea (stats) #5 wcs (true) #6 wcs (violet)* #6 korea (ty)
#8 wcs (pdrogo)* #8 korea (pati) #7 korea (dear) #7 wcs (elazer)*

*differs from the original groups


I can only assume there were some scheduling issues that prevented them from making the seeding completely traditional.
starcraft2.fi
SCHWARZENEGGER
Profile Joined July 2016
206 Posts
October 13 2016 11:11 GMT
#159
On October 13 2016 09:00 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

Agreed. Polt forfeited his blizzcon spot because the tournament isn't important to him.


he's been pissed off by balance since lotv release, 6 months was required for blizzard to understand that adepts need nerf, and after that they make just -1 damage.
proortoss
Profile Joined October 2016
China14 Posts
October 13 2016 11:13 GMT
#160
On October 13 2016 19:58 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
when are the groups played? Did they announce the full schedule yet?


Polt Participation – WCS Global Finals
Oct 12, 2016 by Blizzard Esports
Blizzard Esports announces today that Choi “Polt” Seong Hun has withdrawn from the WCS Global Finals. Polt was urgently summoned to South Korea to report for compulsory military service, and thus will be unable to compete. We appreciate Polt’s contribution over the years as a fierce competitor in StarCraft II esports and eagerly hope for his return to the competitive scene upon the completion of his military service.

With the next highest WCS Circuit point total, Theo “PtitDrogo” Freydiere has been summoned to replace Polt at the WCS Global Finals. In the interest of maintaining fair and competitive group stage brackets, players have been reseeded accordingly, and new groups have been constructed to reflect the new seeding.
-----------------
check the link for more info. as well as the schedule for the global playoffs
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/polt-participation-wcs-global-finals
nut cracker
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 13 2016 11:16 GMT
#161
On October 13 2016 20:05 Azhrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 18:23 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
Anyone know how they did the seeding for the new groups?

It seems like most wcs player just moved up 1 rank and got seeded accordingly(#1 wcs vs #8kr, 2#wcs vs #7kr etc.). For some reason Drogo, Elazer and Violet seem to be on the wrong spot though. Like e.g. Dark as #1kr should be playing vs #8 wcs(drogo) but instead he plays vs violet who is #6 now with the new seeding.

Seems a bit odd to seed everyone based on the wcs ranking except for 3 players.

You are correct. The seeding is not traditional all the way through.

Here are the groups as they stand now:
+ Show Spoiler +
A                 B                C                D
#1 korea (dark) #1 wcs (neeb) #2 wcs (showt) #2 korea (solar)
#4 wcs (snute) #4 korea (zest) #3 korea (byun) #3 wcs (nerchio)
#5 korea (stats) #5 wcs (true) #7 korea (dear) #6 korea (ty)
#6 wcs (violet) #8 korea (pati) #7 wcs (elazer) #8 wcs (pdrogo)


It seems they have seeded the groups by interleaving the Korea and WCS seeds so that the average seed of both groups stays the same, alternating korea wcs wcs korea, and wcs korea korea wcs.

Here are the seeds that those groups represent:
+ Show Spoiler +
1  #1 korea   dark
2 #1 wcs neeb
3 #2 wcs showtime
4 #2 korea solar
5 #3 wcs nerchio
6 #3 korea byun
7 #4 korea zest
8 #4 wcs snute
9 #5 korea stats
10 #5 wcs true
11 #7 korea dear
12 #6 korea ty
13 #8 wcs ptitdrogo
14 #7 wcs elazer
15 #8 korea patience
16 #6 wcs violet


As you can see, it all goes well according to the formula until the 11th seed, which should be #6 wcs (violet) but instead is #7 korea (dear). Almost all of the seeds from 11 to 16 do not follow the pattern, which also causes #8 wcs (ptitdrogo) not to be in the same group as #1 korea as we would expect.

Here are the seeds corrected to follow the pattern set by seeds 1-10:
+ Show Spoiler +
1  #1 korea   dark
2 #1 wcs neeb
3 #2 wcs showtime
4 #2 korea solar
5 #3 wcs nerchio
6 #3 korea byun
7 #4 korea zest
8 #4 wcs snute
9 #5 korea stats
10 #5 wcs true
11 #6 wcs violet
12 #6 korea ty
13 #7 wcs elazer
14 #7 korea dear
15 #8 korea patience
16 #8 wcs ptitdrogo


Lastly, below are the groups that these seeds would produce:
+ Show Spoiler +
A                 B                C                D
#1 korea (dark) #1 wcs (neeb) #2 wcs (showt) #2 korea (solar)
#4 wcs (snute) #4 korea (zest) #3 korea (byun) #3 wcs (nerchio)
#5 korea (stats) #5 wcs (true) #6 wcs (violet)* #6 korea (ty)
#8 wcs (pdrogo)* #8 korea (pati) #7 korea (dear) #7 wcs (elazer)*

*differs from the original groups


I can only assume there were some scheduling issues that prevented them from making the seeding completely traditional.


Nice visualization of the problem, thanks .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 13 2016 11:59 GMT
#162
RIP dreams of Polt fans, Snutr, and Nerchio. although Neeb looking better to won his group now
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ihatevideogames
Profile Joined August 2015
570 Posts
October 13 2016 12:02 GMT
#163
It's hard not to think 'ded gaem' with all the things happening recently and while viewrship keeps declining.

Someone give me hope, I don't want sc2 to die ;_;
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
October 13 2016 12:03 GMT
#164
On October 13 2016 21:02 ihatevideogames wrote:
It's hard not to think 'ded gaem' with all the things happening recently and while viewrship keeps declining.

Someone give me hope, I don't want sc2 to die ;_;


I hope you do realize he has to go back to Korea because of how S.Korean's policy works with things such as military service
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 12:35:33
October 13 2016 12:34 GMT
#165
On October 13 2016 21:02 ihatevideogames wrote:
It's hard not to think 'ded gaem' with all the things happening recently and while viewrship keeps declining.

Someone give me hope, I don't want sc2 to die ;_;


Even if sc2 was the biggest esport there is, hell even if it was bigger than the NFL and NBA together, Polt would still have to go to the military.

So how does this news make you think "ded gaem"? I really can not understand.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 13 2016 12:47 GMT
#166
On October 13 2016 20:59 Fango wrote:
RIP dreams of Polt fans, Snutr, and Nerchio. although Neeb looking better to won his group now


It's funny how Snute leaving Neeb's group actually makes for a higher chance for Neeb to win his group. Also, I really didn't rate Nerchio's chances all that great in his original group, and I don't give him a much worse chance now.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
October 13 2016 12:53 GMT
#167
On October 13 2016 21:34 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 21:02 ihatevideogames wrote:
It's hard not to think 'ded gaem' with all the things happening recently and while viewrship keeps declining.

Someone give me hope, I don't want sc2 to die ;_;


Even if sc2 was the biggest esport there is, hell even if it was bigger than the NFL and NBA together, Polt would still have to go to the military.

So how does this news make you think "ded gaem"? I really can not understand.



Probably because losing a player like polt is going to kill interest even further. Lose an exciting Korean terran and replace them with a generic foreigner protoss. Not quite the same thing unfortunately. Also, not to mention polt is one of the most exciting players who was able to compete in wcs events outside of korea.
sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
October 13 2016 12:58 GMT
#168
I haven't commented much on SC2 for a while nor watched this game lately, but man when I read this I can't help but feel disappointed in the whole situation. His name has basically stuck to me since I started watching pro-SC2 back in 2011, as one of the best Korean Terran players most known in the western world.

I'll never forget how he took the time to sign some stuff for me when I found him right after he did a sit down interview in WCS Toronto almost 3 years ago now. More importantly, so many crazy tournaments he's won or come close to, while making things exciting like MLG

I swear, I can't be the only one thinking to get mad at someone or something (i.e. the SK military) regarding all of this, but you just can't because that's just how the way things are in life.
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
October 13 2016 13:30 GMT
#169
Man there were only 3 terrans as it was. Couldn't he have waited just a couple more months?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
October 13 2016 13:32 GMT
#170
On October 13 2016 22:30 wUndertUnge wrote:
Man there were only 3 terrans as it was. Couldn't he have waited just a couple more months?

You think he wouldn't have if he had the choice?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
October 13 2016 13:32 GMT
#171
FUCK!. Dammit I wanted to see him in the playoffs. Best of luck in the military Polt, I've been a big fan for a while. All the best!
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Biscuittzz
Profile Joined July 2016
155 Posts
October 13 2016 13:44 GMT
#172
On October 13 2016 21:53 HugoBallzak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 21:34 Musicus wrote:
On October 13 2016 21:02 ihatevideogames wrote:
It's hard not to think 'ded gaem' with all the things happening recently and while viewrship keeps declining.

Someone give me hope, I don't want sc2 to die ;_;


Even if sc2 was the biggest esport there is, hell even if it was bigger than the NFL and NBA together, Polt would still have to go to the military.

So how does this news make you think "ded gaem"? I really can not understand.



Probably because losing a player like polt is going to kill interest even further. Lose an exciting Korean terran and replace them with a generic foreigner protoss. Not quite the same thing unfortunately. Also, not to mention polt is one of the most exciting players who was able to compete in wcs events outside of korea.


While your point is correct, I find Drogo to be quite entertaining. Not through his personality or playstyle, however, it's unfortunate that he's only entertaining because he tilts and throws so much. So on the biggest stage of all against the toughest opposition allowed by this region-locking scheme he doesn't seem in a good place.

Then again he could do a Uthermal on it a win the whole thing. Either way he'll entertain.
Biscuittzz
Profile Joined July 2016
155 Posts
October 13 2016 13:54 GMT
#173
Looks like the SK military finally cracked the whip. He must have put it off as much as he could.

Some players are good, others are great but then there are the Champions. Champions within the game and without. Polt was one of these champions. I don't believe we'll see another player of his calibre again within SC2. With him gone now, that must be one of the final player links to WoL severed? Are there any of the old guard left so to speak?

And with regards to hurting the game? Polt's departure most definitely will affect this. For me personally, he was the only player that made this region-locked abomination watchable. Hopefully, if he does ever come back, the state of the game will allow him to participate in all events like it used to.
Tuckleberry
Profile Joined May 2015
21 Posts
October 13 2016 13:58 GMT
#174
Poltuuuu Always in my heart
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 14:02:33
October 13 2016 14:02 GMT
#175
On October 13 2016 22:54 Biscuittzz wrote:
Are there any of the old guard left so to speak?

Depends on how you'd define the "old guard". There are players from before the KeSPA switch left. MC is the biggest name obviously.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 14:10:35
October 13 2016 14:09 GMT
#176
On October 13 2016 09:07 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

So because Hydra can't attend because of his long ago planned wedding and Polt because of mandatory military service means this Blizzcon "seems secondary" to them? Sure.

Nice ded gaem post btw

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On October 13 2016 09:03 blade55555 wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

Agreed. Polt forfeited his blizzcon spot because the tournament isn't important to him.


I'm 90% positive that's not why he isn't going to blizzcon. It sounds like he had no choice and the Korean military is forcing him to do it now (he's 28).

I'm 100% positive that Charoisaur is 100% positive


I am now 100% positive that I was right and had nothing to do with Blizzcon not being important to him . Sucks Korea couldn't have waited another 2 months though.
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Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
October 13 2016 14:10 GMT
#177
Neeb is so good, he made two Koreans retire.
jedi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
United States172 Posts
October 13 2016 14:39 GMT
#178
Nooooooooo!!!!! He was one of the last SC2 "greats"
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 13 2016 15:17 GMT
#179
Wonderful, we lost of of the best terran (to watch) and got instead another Protoss....
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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
October 13 2016 15:18 GMT
#180
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?


as much as i'd hate to admit it, it seems to be that way... i use to love this game but now the player base and skills it takes to play is just not as rewarding (on a casual player basis, "rewarding"). just look at the stream views on twitch, its gone from 40k-50k to 20k-30k to 8k-15k, now its essentially -5k unless there's a tournament going on. i honestly blame blizzard for trying to micro manage the tournament and the tournament holders. i dont understand why they even tried to in the first place... like blizz claims at every blizzcon, "We're a game development company", when it comes to the poor organization of the events, basically implying: therefore, don't blame us for the congested processes in the convention that do not run smoothly even though we have the technology and resources to make everything almost as perfect *QQ*
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
October 13 2016 15:19 GMT
#181
On October 13 2016 18:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Fuck...

2 T left. Will ByuN and TY pull off a Dark - Solar SSL ?

They will eliminate each other in the round of 8, it's the Terran way.
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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
October 13 2016 15:21 GMT
#182
Much as I like Drogo, it's a bit of a lwaste tbh, with his current lvl I can't see him do anything in his group.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 13 2016 15:25 GMT
#183
Military - another nail in the coffin for SC2 scene.
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Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
October 13 2016 15:26 GMT
#184
Lol, so many stupid people equating mandatory military service with ded game
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
October 13 2016 15:38 GMT
#185
On October 14 2016 00:21 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Much as I like Drogo, it's a bit of a lwaste tbh, with his current lvl I can't see him do anything in his group.

There are a lot of people who couldn't do anything in that group, including a large chunk of Koreans.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
October 13 2016 15:45 GMT
#186
On October 13 2016 20:11 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 09:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

Agreed. Polt forfeited his blizzcon spot because the tournament isn't important to him.


he's been pissed off by balance since lotv release, 6 months was required for blizzard to understand that adepts need nerf, and after that they make just -1 damage.


typical terran to turn this into balance whine.
beefITek
Profile Joined June 2011
France54 Posts
October 13 2016 16:30 GMT
#187
typical terran to turn this into balance whine.


Lotv summary after one year of competition: 7 zergs, 7 protoss, 2 terran, all is said
DKim thanks for terran, you made a dead game for them

even blizzcon 500 000 $ price pool is almost not intersting to watch then

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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1890 Posts
October 13 2016 16:38 GMT
#188
On October 14 2016 00:45 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 20:11 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

Agreed. Polt forfeited his blizzcon spot because the tournament isn't important to him.


he's been pissed off by balance since lotv release, 6 months was required for blizzard to understand that adepts need nerf, and after that they make just -1 damage.


typical terran to turn this into balance whine.


Well, to be frank, he kinda has a point, something has to be wrong, otherwise we'd still have a decent number of Terran players left, which since LotV isn't really the case anymore.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 13 2016 16:39 GMT
#189
Welp, there goes my only reason to keep watching Starcraft

It's sad its so sudden, I guess their governement didn't leave him any choice.
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SCHWARZENEGGER
Profile Joined July 2016
206 Posts
October 13 2016 17:21 GMT
#190
On October 14 2016 00:45 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 20:11 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
On October 13 2016 09:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 13 2016 08:57 sc2chronic wrote:
in a way, im glad koreans are making the biggest sc2 tourney in the world seem secondary to them. future of sc2 is looking bleak. not a ded gam post, just be realistic; do you see this game holding up for the next 2-3 years?

Agreed. Polt forfeited his blizzcon spot because the tournament isn't important to him.


he's been pissed off by balance since lotv release, 6 months was required for blizzard to understand that adepts need nerf, and after that they make just -1 damage.


typical terran to turn this into balance whine.


phahah my quote about adepts is polt's words from his stream
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 13 2016 18:08 GMT
#191
This is not a balance whine thread. In fact, no thread is a balance whine thread.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12780 Posts
October 13 2016 18:16 GMT
#192
On October 14 2016 01:30 beefITek wrote:
Show nested quote +
typical terran to turn this into balance whine.


Lotv summary after one year of competition: 7 zergs, 7 protoss, 2 terran, all is said
DKim thanks for terran, you made a dead game for them

even blizzcon 500 000 $ price pool is almost not intersting to watch then

It's been the case since BLord / Infestor, why would you want to complain now as if it's only since LotV? xD

The Blizzcon will still be interesting and it'll taste even better if the best player in the world manages to win against all odds (ByuN), iirc no terran has won a Blizzcon yet.

Polt probably knew he had to stop before Blizzcon but he needed to be funded for his trips I guess... It's such a bummer that he won't play it and just stopped sc2 so suddenly, after very bad performances in recent tourneys (still top 2 #WCS, almost #1, since Neeb had the luck not to be stopped by ByuN, so overall decent performance), without a chance to redeem himself.

This military service is really killing hype :/.
WriterMaru
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
October 13 2016 18:18 GMT
#193
On October 14 2016 00:38 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 00:21 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Much as I like Drogo, it's a bit of a lwaste tbh, with his current lvl I can't see him do anything in his group.

There are a lot of people who couldn't do anything in that group, including a large chunk of Koreans.


Can't disagree with that. It would already be super strong if Nerchio made it out.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
October 13 2016 18:22 GMT
#194
I just hope Drogo realizes that this is a huge opportunity & practices his butt off to give everyone a good show & doesnt just pull a Lilbow.
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Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
October 13 2016 18:30 GMT
#195
Well this sucks. Polt was one of my favorite players. I knew this was coming eventually considering his age, but I hoped he had postponed it even further.
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Meeii
Profile Joined July 2015
155 Posts
October 13 2016 18:57 GMT
#196
Well watching Blizzcon as a terran player really sucks. Yes we have TY and Byun but they both go between best in the world and mediocre play so who knows who show up at Blizzcon.
Matte3D
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden26 Posts
October 13 2016 19:11 GMT
#197
Just such a strange timing, GL Polt :'(
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 13 2016 19:16 GMT
#198
On October 14 2016 04:11 Matte3D wrote:
Just such a strange timing, GL Polt :'(


For the fans, it's very much an anti-timing. If Drogo doesn't get 0-4 in his group, then he will have done better than Lilbow.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
October 13 2016 19:39 GMT
#199
An amazing competitor, and one I doubted before IEM Cologne 2014. Congrats on your place in history Polt!
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17665 Posts
October 13 2016 20:00 GMT
#200
so now the TL writers have to scrap whatever they had and start over lol. Hopefully we get some preview articles soon!
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Nine Gates
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland198 Posts
October 13 2016 20:38 GMT
#201
On October 14 2016 03:16 Poopi wrote:
iirc no terran has won a Blizzcon yet.
Mvp, technically, but I know that's not what you meant.
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SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France897 Posts
October 13 2016 21:58 GMT
#202
On October 14 2016 03:22 billynasty wrote:
I just hope Drogo realizes that this is a huge opportunity & practices his butt off to give everyone a good show & doesnt just pull a Lilbow.

Nah Drogo is a hard worker for sure. But I do not if he is confident enough though.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 13 2016 22:19 GMT
#203
On October 14 2016 06:58 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 03:22 billynasty wrote:
I just hope Drogo realizes that this is a huge opportunity & practices his butt off to give everyone a good show & doesnt just pull a Lilbow.

Nah Drogo is a hard worker for sure. But I do not if he is confident enough though.

He pretty much has the hardest group too imo. He might practice hard but I wouldnt be surprised to see him go 0-4
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 13 2016 22:36 GMT
#204
nuts lol
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
October 13 2016 22:51 GMT
#205
Oh, no!

I blame Kim Jong Un for this BS
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zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
October 13 2016 23:17 GMT
#206
Such sudden and sad news. I'm sure Polt would've gone if he could, and tried filing an extension.

It was wonderful watching him play, and having a Korean pro that could speak English so well was really nice. I'm glad he's made such good use of his time, and wish him luck. I hope he'll be back when he's done with his service.
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aeligos
Profile Joined January 2013
United States172 Posts
October 14 2016 01:04 GMT
#207
Bye polt.

I hope you're better at denying sovereign leaders their right govern (via NATO) than you were at SC2.
libera te tvtemet ex inferis A.'.A.'.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
October 14 2016 01:52 GMT
#208
Has anyone heard from Polt since he left? Just saw he retweeted a couple things but that's it.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-14 02:08:09
October 14 2016 02:06 GMT
#209
As someone mentioned before, the first time I paid attention to Polt was when he was trash talking Jinro, and then he beat my favorite terran at the time (MMA) in a big finals, so I started out strongly disliking him. He really grew on me though and eventually I became a fan (except for the parts where he kept beating TaeJa *fistshake*). I loved his cheerful personality and attitude and matter-of-fact communication, and he gave us plenty of entertaining games. Going to miss him lots, but I wish him the best in all of his future endeavors!
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
sa1Ko
Profile Joined July 2015
Argentina99 Posts
October 14 2016 02:31 GMT
#210
Retirements with no class at all ... looks like hydra and polt were afraid of the blizzcon walk of shame... ^_^
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 14 2016 03:58 GMT
#211
On October 14 2016 11:31 sa1Ko wrote:
Retirements with no class at all ... looks like hydra and polt were afraid of the blizzcon walk of shame... ^_^

what? Please understand the context of their retirements because making such a ridiculous statement.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 14 2016 04:21 GMT
#212
I'm so sad now! I looked forward to seeing Polt compete one last time before expected service. The timing of this makes me question what the real story is behind the change.
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antigravity
Profile Joined July 2013
29 Posts
October 14 2016 04:59 GMT
#213
Polt is THE LAST truly GREAT player of the first generation of SC2 progamers still playing at the top level.

Truly sad to see him go without a chance for a shot at the last big score / tournament @ BlizzCon, which he has earned...

END OF AN ERA.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 14 2016 04:59 GMT
#214
On October 14 2016 04:16 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 04:11 Matte3D wrote:
Just such a strange timing, GL Polt :'(


For the fans, it's very much an anti-timing. If Drogo doesn't get 0-4 in his group, then he will have done better than Lilbow.


Lilbow actually qualified off of his own merit though.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 14 2016 05:06 GMT
#215
Captain America should've renounced his Korean citizenship to apply for US citizenship, that's one way to get out of military service.
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
October 14 2016 05:45 GMT
#216
On October 14 2016 13:59 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 04:16 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 14 2016 04:11 Matte3D wrote:
Just such a strange timing, GL Polt :'(


For the fans, it's very much an anti-timing. If Drogo doesn't get 0-4 in his group, then he will have done better than Lilbow.


Lilbow actually qualified off of his own merit though.


Not really any different than Drogo. Lilbow mainly qualified from WCS Premier just as Drogo got his points from WCS events he did well in.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
October 14 2016 06:10 GMT
#217
On October 14 2016 14:45 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 13:59 Phredxor wrote:
On October 14 2016 04:16 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 14 2016 04:11 Matte3D wrote:
Just such a strange timing, GL Polt :'(


For the fans, it's very much an anti-timing. If Drogo doesn't get 0-4 in his group, then he will have done better than Lilbow.


Lilbow actually qualified off of his own merit though.


Not really any different than Drogo. Lilbow mainly qualified from WCS Premier just as Drogo got his points from WCS events he did well in.

Drogo only qualified because 2 other people dropped out
SKN1995
Profile Joined September 2016
Japan204 Posts
October 14 2016 08:25 GMT
#218
On October 14 2016 12:58 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 11:31 sa1Ko wrote:
Retirements with no class at all ... looks like hydra and polt were afraid of the blizzcon walk of shame... ^_^

what? Please understand the context of their retirements because making such a ridiculous statement.

How is that statement ridiculous? He's just expressing how he sees it. Now, if he had stated that EVERYONE should see it the same way he does and there's no other right way to see it, then yes it would have been ridiculous.
SKN1995
Profile Joined September 2016
Japan204 Posts
October 14 2016 08:27 GMT
#219
On October 14 2016 15:10 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 14:45 Parrek wrote:
On October 14 2016 13:59 Phredxor wrote:
On October 14 2016 04:16 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 14 2016 04:11 Matte3D wrote:
Just such a strange timing, GL Polt :'(


For the fans, it's very much an anti-timing. If Drogo doesn't get 0-4 in his group, then he will have done better than Lilbow.


Lilbow actually qualified off of his own merit though.


Not really any different than Drogo. Lilbow mainly qualified from WCS Premier just as Drogo got his points from WCS events he did well in.

Drogo only qualified because 2 other people dropped out

Lilbow only qualified because the players he played against to get enough points to qualify weren't better.

I really dont get what you think "off of one's own merit" signifies :D
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
October 14 2016 08:29 GMT
#220
On October 14 2016 14:06 iamho wrote:
Captain America should've renounced his Korean citizenship to apply for US citizenship, that's one way to get out of military service.

I'm pretty sure that's also a good way to never be allowed to go to South Korea again.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12780 Posts
October 14 2016 08:38 GMT
#221
On October 14 2016 15:10 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 14:45 Parrek wrote:
On October 14 2016 13:59 Phredxor wrote:
On October 14 2016 04:16 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 14 2016 04:11 Matte3D wrote:
Just such a strange timing, GL Polt :'(


For the fans, it's very much an anti-timing. If Drogo doesn't get 0-4 in his group, then he will have done better than Lilbow.


Lilbow actually qualified off of his own merit though.


Not really any different than Drogo. Lilbow mainly qualified from WCS Premier just as Drogo got his points from WCS events he did well in.

Drogo only qualified because 2 other people dropped out

He qualified because he earned enough points.
WriterMaru
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 14 2016 09:22 GMT
#222
Seeds have been fixed already, I like to think this thread a had a part in it .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-14 09:43:21
October 14 2016 09:43 GMT
#223
You know, it makes me sad that out of all casters/hosts who will most likely be at Blizzcon, only Artosis tweeted anything related to Polt's retirement.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 14 2016 09:52 GMT
#224
On October 14 2016 17:27 SKN1995 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 15:10 Solar424 wrote:
On October 14 2016 14:45 Parrek wrote:
On October 14 2016 13:59 Phredxor wrote:
On October 14 2016 04:16 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 14 2016 04:11 Matte3D wrote:
Just such a strange timing, GL Polt :'(


For the fans, it's very much an anti-timing. If Drogo doesn't get 0-4 in his group, then he will have done better than Lilbow.


Lilbow actually qualified off of his own merit though.


Not really any different than Drogo. Lilbow mainly qualified from WCS Premier just as Drogo got his points from WCS events he did well in.

Drogo only qualified because 2 other people dropped out

Lilbow only qualified because the players he played against to get enough points to qualify weren't better.

I really dont get what you think "off of one's own merit" signifies :D


He only qualified because two players couldn't attend for various reasons. That's what I meant. His personal performance during the year wasn't good enough, but he lucked out.
Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
October 14 2016 10:01 GMT
#225
Poltu sempai don't leave us
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Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1195 Posts
October 14 2016 10:11 GMT
#226
The groups have now been fixed so that viOlet, Elazer and PtitDrogo are in the correct places: http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/polt-participation-wcs-global-finals

The Groups announced on October 12 utilized incorrect seeds for PtitDrogo, Elazer, and viOLet. We apologize for the error and have corrected the groups above.

New groups:
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Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-14 10:15:25
October 14 2016 10:14 GMT
#227
OMG... Now that they switched Drogo with Elazer, Group D is probably the worst scenario Nerchio could possibly get...
jojoquirion
Profile Joined December 2009
4 Posts
October 14 2016 10:24 GMT
#228
On October 14 2016 19:14 Majick wrote:
OMG... Now that they switched Drogo with Elazer, Group D is probably the worst scenario Nerchio could possibly get...

Indeed. Neeb and even Snute are more lucky.
Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-14 10:35:15
October 14 2016 10:34 GMT
#229
On October 14 2016 19:24 jojoquirion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 19:14 Majick wrote:
OMG... Now that they switched Drogo with Elazer, Group D is probably the worst scenario Nerchio could possibly get...

Indeed. Neeb and even Snute are more lucky.

And also Nerchio & Elazer fighting in one group is not what I wanted to see
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 14 2016 10:37 GMT
#230
On October 14 2016 19:34 Majick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 19:24 jojoquirion wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:14 Majick wrote:
OMG... Now that they switched Drogo with Elazer, Group D is probably the worst scenario Nerchio could possibly get...

Indeed. Neeb and even Snute are more lucky.

And also Nerchio & Elazer fighting in one group is not what I wanted to see


Yeah, that really sucks.

But hey, I still believe in Nerchio.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
October 14 2016 10:49 GMT
#231
On October 14 2016 19:37 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 19:34 Majick wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:24 jojoquirion wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:14 Majick wrote:
OMG... Now that they switched Drogo with Elazer, Group D is probably the worst scenario Nerchio could possibly get...

Indeed. Neeb and even Snute are more lucky.

And also Nerchio & Elazer fighting in one group is not what I wanted to see


Yeah, that really sucks.

But hey, I still believe in Nerchio.

I don't really believe in him with this group honestly. TY and Solar are just so good.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sa1Ko
Profile Joined July 2015
Argentina99 Posts
October 14 2016 12:41 GMT
#232
such a generous system.. Violet plays at Blizzcon and Classic watching it on twitch ^_^
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
October 14 2016 13:16 GMT
#233
On October 14 2016 10:04 aeligos wrote:
Bye polt.

I hope you're better at denying sovereign leaders their right govern (via NATO) than you were at SC2.


He would basically have to be Alexander the Great then.
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
October 14 2016 13:18 GMT
#234
On October 14 2016 17:25 SKN1995 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 12:58 BigFan wrote:
On October 14 2016 11:31 sa1Ko wrote:
Retirements with no class at all ... looks like hydra and polt were afraid of the blizzcon walk of shame... ^_^

what? Please understand the context of their retirements because making such a ridiculous statement.

How is that statement ridiculous? He's just expressing how he sees it. Now, if he had stated that EVERYONE should see it the same way he does and there's no other right way to see it, then yes it would have been ridiculous.


Just because you have a right to an opinion doesn't mean said opinion can't be wrong or ridiculous.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 14 2016 13:20 GMT
#235
On October 14 2016 19:49 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 19:37 Musicus wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:34 Majick wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:24 jojoquirion wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:14 Majick wrote:
OMG... Now that they switched Drogo with Elazer, Group D is probably the worst scenario Nerchio could possibly get...

Indeed. Neeb and even Snute are more lucky.

And also Nerchio & Elazer fighting in one group is not what I wanted to see


Yeah, that really sucks.

But hey, I still believe in Nerchio.

I don't really believe in him with this group honestly. TY and Solar are just so good.


Well Nerchio's ZvT is incredible and he did practice a lot of ZvZ, so I don't think he wants to avoid it nowadays. He was actually sad that he didn't have more zergs in his KeSPA Cup group.

It will be really, really hard, but he can still do it I think.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
the_techsan
Profile Joined May 2016
United States16 Posts
October 14 2016 15:56 GMT
#236
I'd be so pissed if I was uThermal...
WhosQuany
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany257 Posts
October 14 2016 16:20 GMT
#237
OMG i cant believe this POLT!?!?!?!?!
Goin back to Cali
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-14 16:56:59
October 14 2016 16:56 GMT
#238
On October 14 2016 22:20 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 19:49 Elentos wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:37 Musicus wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:34 Majick wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:24 jojoquirion wrote:
On October 14 2016 19:14 Majick wrote:
OMG... Now that they switched Drogo with Elazer, Group D is probably the worst scenario Nerchio could possibly get...

Indeed. Neeb and even Snute are more lucky.

And also Nerchio & Elazer fighting in one group is not what I wanted to see


Yeah, that really sucks.

But hey, I still believe in Nerchio.

I don't really believe in him with this group honestly. TY and Solar are just so good.


Well Nerchio's ZvT is incredible and he did practice a lot of ZvZ, so I don't think he wants to avoid it nowadays. He was actually sad that he didn't have more zergs in his KeSPA Cup group.

It will be really, really hard, but he can still do it I think.

Yeah but he also said TY and Solar were among the strongest players he played while he was in Korea. To the point where he was convinced TY was gonna win KeSPA Cup before he even played his Ro8 match. And Solar is obviously capable of incredible play as well. TY has the luxury of only preparing one match-up. Let's face it, this would be an incredibly hard group to win for any Korean or foreign pro with Solar and TY in it. But even just advancing from it is a challenge most players would probably fail.

Nerchio can do it, but he's gotta show up at his absolute best to actually make it happen. Beside that, I'm convinced Nerchio will give us a good show, whether he advances to the next round or not.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12780 Posts
October 14 2016 17:03 GMT
#239
Nerchio can definitely win given momentum but it's gonna be tough getting that momentum in the first place. All the groups seem epicly good :D. There aren't many terrans but foreign Z/P against KR players is fun as well.

I still can't process that we might never see Polt play again, offline...
WriterMaru
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 14 2016 17:07 GMT
#240
Damn - it's sad to see more and more "old-school" legends retiring.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-14 17:09:04
October 14 2016 17:08 GMT
#241
By the way, nothing against Drogo, but it would have been really cool to see uThermal play against Dark. A great (the best?) foreign TvZer and the best Korean ZvTer. Damn you and your stupid missing 15 points Marc!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
October 14 2016 19:03 GMT
#242
Thanks for the memories, Polt.
It has been a lot of fun watching you play in tourneys and streaming.

All the best!
Ve5pa
Profile Joined December 2014
United Kingdom252 Posts
October 14 2016 19:05 GMT
#243
As a non American I always thought the Captain America stuff was pretty silly.

What i know for sure though was Polt was a guy who tried to embrace playing in the west in his latter years, great effort with the English even though their were some funny interview moments. He always played with a smile on his face and was an extremely likable guy. His attempts at BM were always lighthearted and he will be sorely missed in the SC2 community. Thanks for the memories Polt.

p.s. I think in KR u can only put military service off so long, and I'm pretty sure I've heard somewhere that 28 may be the cut off.

I think he's got to go into the marines corp though as it was pretty much the only unit he ever built
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
October 14 2016 20:16 GMT
#244
No way. Please tell me I'm dreaming?
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12780 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-14 20:28:34
October 14 2016 20:27 GMT
#245
On October 15 2016 02:08 Elentos wrote:
By the way, nothing against Drogo, but it would have been really cool to see uThermal play against Dark. A great (the best?) foreign TvZer and the best Korean ZvTer. Damn you and your stupid missing 15 points Marc!

I don't think he stands a chance since him and MLorD struggle to compete with Nerchio when it counts. Would have been cool to see the only other foreign Terran that has a shot vs KR (since him and MLorD are virtually the only foreign T to have beaten Nerchio in TvZ bo5 iirc? Edit: LotV ofc) zergs tho I agree. MLorD couldn't do much but uThermal might surprise them in bo3.
But who knows maybe viOLet will forfeit as well ensuring no Korean in foreign WCS x).
WriterMaru
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 14 2016 21:45 GMT
#246
On October 15 2016 02:08 Elentos wrote:
By the way, nothing against Drogo, but it would have been really cool to see uThermal play against Dark. A great (the best?) foreign TvZer and the best Korean ZvTer. Damn you and your stupid missing 15 points Marc!

Well, then blame is entirely on uThermal since he invoked the "I killed Neeb in a finale and thus I will forever be stomped every time I meet him" curse. He could have just lost to Neeb then beat him in the other tournaments.

Also, TRUE is also a Korean from the WCS region and not just violet.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
uThermal
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
October 15 2016 00:28 GMT
#247
On October 15 2016 06:45 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2016 02:08 Elentos wrote:
By the way, nothing against Drogo, but it would have been really cool to see uThermal play against Dark. A great (the best?) foreign TvZer and the best Korean ZvTer. Damn you and your stupid missing 15 points Marc!

Well, then blame is entirely on uThermal since he invoked the "I killed Neeb in a finale and thus I will forever be stomped every time I meet him" curse. He could have just lost to Neeb then beat him in the other tournaments.

Also, TRUE is also a Korean from the WCS region and not just violet.


Getting completely crushed by someone much better than you is still called a curse? I'll take it
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-15 02:23:58
October 15 2016 02:03 GMT
#248
On October 15 2016 09:28 uThermal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2016 06:45 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 15 2016 02:08 Elentos wrote:
By the way, nothing against Drogo, but it would have been really cool to see uThermal play against Dark. A great (the best?) foreign TvZer and the best Korean ZvTer. Damn you and your stupid missing 15 points Marc!

Well, then blame is entirely on uThermal since he invoked the "I killed Neeb in a finale and thus I will forever be stomped every time I meet him" curse. He could have just lost to Neeb then beat him in the other tournaments.

Also, TRUE is also a Korean from the WCS region and not just violet.


Getting completely crushed by someone much better than you is still called a curse? I'll take it


Well...it only applies to those who beat Neeb in an offline finals. Hydra also suffered this fate...and he retired o_O
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Kovzirg
Profile Joined July 2016
126 Posts
October 16 2016 15:45 GMT
#249
I don't understand both of these Blizzcon withdrawals (Polt and Hydra). You literally just have to show up and are guaranteed a nice chunk of change.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-16 16:49:02
October 16 2016 16:36 GMT
#250
On October 17 2016 00:45 Kovzirg wrote:
I don't understand both of these Blizzcon withdrawals (Polt and Hydra). You literally just have to show up and are guaranteed a nice chunk of change.

Maybe... oh I don't know... it's not so easy to "just show up"? You think Hydra could just be at the event on the 28th to play and then fly to Korea to get married the on the same day with severe jetlag (if he's even there on time because of time zones)? You think the military would have just let Polt go to Blizzcon but he decided to forfeit anyway?

That's pretty optimistic.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
October 16 2016 16:45 GMT
#251
If I had to guess, these players will still receive the minimum prize money, as they did qualify but had to forfeit.
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
October 16 2016 18:21 GMT
#252
On October 17 2016 00:45 Kovzirg wrote:
I don't understand both of these Blizzcon withdrawals (Polt and Hydra). You literally just have to show up and are guaranteed a nice chunk of change.


Have you ever been on wedding? It's not like you plan this in one day...
twitch.tv/pharaphobia
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
October 16 2016 20:00 GMT
#253
On October 17 2016 01:45 Blargh wrote:
If I had to guess, these players will still receive the minimum prize money, as they did qualify but had to forfeit.


I doubt it. Then what would their replacements get? There's not magically gonna be more price money because some people forfeited.
Chidoriiiii
Profile Joined January 2011
United States21 Posts
October 16 2016 23:39 GMT
#254
well there goes my last favorite player of sc2
Only the dead have seen the end of war
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 16 2016 23:53 GMT
#255
On October 17 2016 00:45 Kovzirg wrote:
I don't understand both of these Blizzcon withdrawals (Polt and Hydra). You literally just have to show up and are guaranteed a nice chunk of change.


I feel Hydra should have scheduled his wedding for early October whenever he started planning a date, but Polt I don't think had a choice. Just from reading he has to do Military, Korea won't let him delay any further as he's 28 years old. So it sucks for him as I don't think there's anything he could have done to delay it.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 17 2016 00:10 GMT
#256
On October 17 2016 01:45 Blargh wrote:
If I had to guess, these players will still receive the minimum prize money, as they did qualify but had to forfeit.


I am stabbing in the dark here because I do not know Blizzard's internal conversations on this but that seems incredibly unlikely.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 17 2016 01:37 GMT
#257
Goodbye.
kiss kiss fall in love
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
October 17 2016 04:18 GMT
#258
I'm sure everyone in Group A don't mind Polt being replaced by a PittDrogo. Since for them it'd mean 1 less matchup to prepare for.

From a spectating point of view though, it would've been nice if he was replaced by another Terran. But there's not many good foreigners that play Terran
The world wants to be deceived
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 17 2016 04:40 GMT
#259
On October 17 2016 13:18 MoonyD wrote:
I'm sure everyone in Group A don't mind Polt being replaced by a PittDrogo. Since for them it'd mean 1 less matchup to prepare for.

From a spectating point of view though, it would've been nice if he was replaced by another Terran. But there's not many good foreigners that play Terran



Well, there's MarineLord, Masa, and uThermal. But unfortunately, they didn't play well enough to make the 10th spot. I would say, that uThermal has been a pretty good Terran throughout LotV, and Masa's been getting better. It's just that Europe is dominated primarily by Zerg, and their Protoss has kept up but their Terran has not.

And then for NA it's like Neeb, Masa, and Scarlett (and Puck and Pili among others) who are the top.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
October 17 2016 04:51 GMT
#260
Is it not normal for players who qualify but must forfeit to receive last place prize money, and replacements to receive the amount earned minus last place (since they technically didn't qualify originally)?

I could see them not doing that too, since they are not actually playing the Ro16 at all, but I feel that would be a much more fair system. After all, the replacement players are still having their trip paid for, so they have little to lose.
antigravity
Profile Joined July 2013
29 Posts
October 17 2016 05:46 GMT
#261
On October 15 2016 09:28 uThermal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2016 06:45 FrkFrJss wrote:
On October 15 2016 02:08 Elentos wrote:
By the way, nothing against Drogo, but it would have been really cool to see uThermal play against Dark. A great (the best?) foreign TvZer and the best Korean ZvTer. Damn you and your stupid missing 15 points Marc!

Well, then blame is entirely on uThermal since he invoked the "I killed Neeb in a finale and thus I will forever be stomped every time I meet him" curse. He could have just lost to Neeb then beat him in the other tournaments.

Also, TRUE is also a Korean from the WCS region and not just violet.


Getting completely crushed by someone much better than you is still called a curse? I'll take it


Forget curses, uthermy - you beat Neeb in IEM finals and then lose to Harstem at WESG qualifiers... How?? (No Benelux VODs.)

Gotto think you would've made it in to top 8 at WESG Euro quals -- DeMusliM did! -- and then it's $400,000 to top 8 at WESG finals with only 2 Koreans...
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 17 2016 05:52 GMT
#262
I don't want to complain, but is there any special Blizcon preview comming up?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
October 17 2016 08:33 GMT
#263
Good luck Captain Polt, I hope you can play Starcraft music when defending the SK border!
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
Wave.
Profile Joined August 2016
1 Post
October 17 2016 17:17 GMT
#264
Better Life went to Blizzcon instead PtitDrogo. Even he will play better than PtitDrogo

User was temp banned for this post.
PtitDrogo
Profile Joined May 2011
France163 Posts
October 17 2016 17:24 GMT
#265
Well duh It's life
Progamer
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17665 Posts
October 17 2016 17:28 GMT
#266
On October 17 2016 14:52 Nakajin wrote:
I don't want to complain, but is there any special Blizcon preview comming up?

I've been looking out for this too, we're less than 2 weeks away and usually they start coming up earlier than that I think
"Expert" mods4ever.com
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 17 2016 19:42 GMT
#267
On October 18 2016 02:24 PtitDrogo wrote:
Well duh It's life


And this is why you're my favourite French Protoss whose name starts with a "p" who has won a tournament in the 2016 WCS season, is ranked 10 in the WCS standings and plays on myi.

But more seriously, Drogo has been playing better as of late than he was around mid-2016, so if he practices a lot, then he might be able to show some good games (even if he doesn't necessarily make it out of the group).
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
October 19 2016 08:05 GMT
#268
I hope to see Polt back after his service - Chan Sung Jung (an MMA fighter who had to take a break for military service) recently returned to the UFC and missing several years of your prime there would have to make it harder to return than it would be for esports, surely Polt could sharpen his skills within a year of returning.

Thanks for the memories Captain America
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