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ejozl
Denmark3548 Posts
 )I think True will make it out in Group B, it's the definite weaker group. Trap will do very well. Group D is too sick, Nerchio should defeat the Protoss opponents. This looks super sick, if no foreigner makes it out, it doesn't mean jack shit, they're way outnumbered. This is sho shick! | ||
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Fran_
United States1024 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 22 2016 18:48 ejozl wrote: Another Jin Air victim for Nerchio. (repeats counts? )I think True will make it out in Group B, it's the definite weaker group. Trap will do very well. Group D is too sick, Nerchio should defeat the Protoss opponents. This looks super sick, if no foreigner makes it out, it doesn't mean jack shit, they're way outnumbered. This is sho shick! I don't think Nerchio can easily defeat two of the best Protosses in the world fighting for their BlizzCon spot ... | ||
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Penev
28536 Posts
On September 22 2016 18:14 Nerchio wrote: I heard that losing in Korea might be more profitable than winning In the fifth your ass goes down | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
On September 22 2016 17:01 lichter wrote: i'm surprised people aren't calling out ban bets on nerchio yet if nerchio goes 0-2, i ban him for a month if nerchio wins a series, i ban all of the takers for a week and no one can talk trash on him that entire week if nerchio advances, i ban all of the takers for a month and no one can talk trash on him that entire month any takers? nerchio? I'll bet that nerchio will do well, you can ban me if he goes out 0-2 I think that he got a pretty good group with 2 pvzs so I expect him to advance anyway | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 22 2016 19:08 MLuneth wrote: I'll bet that nerchio will do well, you can ban me if he goes out 0-2 I think that he got a pretty good group with 2 pvzs so I expect him to advance anyway That would be an "easy" group for Snute, whose best match up is ZvP. For Nerchio, whose best matchup is ZvT, this group is a disaster. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 22 2016 16:06 FrkFrJss wrote: For reference, he's dropped sets/multiples of games to Patience, MC, and Super. They're not bad Protoss by any means, but I would not consider their PvP to be anything spectacular (especially Patience). Eh, I dunno about that. MC only actually beat Zest one 1 map from a standard game. The other maps MC won were all stalker allins? And Super only took a couple maps of him after Zest already passed his Starleague group (where it makes sense for Zest to lose if he wants easier opponents to advance with him). My memory is dodgy though. His 1-3 to patience was after he slumped hard after the Taeja loss. Remember 2014 when he was considered the best player then lost to Life at blizzcon? Took him nearly a year to get back to form. If i had to bet I'd say he still gonna be slumpin' It's gonna be Byun Rogue, herO TY, Stats Solar, and Classic Patience. Upset possibilities being Neeb and Maru | ||
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Mlord
France135 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 22 2016 19:40 Mlord wrote: I'm not sure about my chance honestly, but bo3 group + its A vs B and C vs D OK, then you have at least the weakest opponent for the first match ... Stats would be much tougher ... | ||
Poopi
France13018 Posts
Rogue is okay but can a JA player win in individual leagues? ByuN will be hard but Neeb has already beaten him, in bo3 everything can happen between these two training partners even tho ByuN is the better player. ByuN (1st) and Neeb (2nd) for group A. TY and HerO for group B (no order) even tho Pet qualifying would be super funny. Stats and Trap for group C even though I'd hope for MLorD and Solar. Patience and Nerchio for group D (no order either), all four could qualify but I think Maru will shit the bed yet another time, Patience seems worse than Classic but he has been doing super well lately and is the kind of guy to eliminate fan favorites :D. Nerchio will qualify because that would piss of more haters. | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
On September 22 2016 19:15 Diabolique wrote: That would be an "easy" group for Snute, whose best match up is ZvP. For Nerchio, whose best matchup is ZvT, this group is a disaster. It's more that I expect him to play 2 pvs and not 2 zvzs (which I think is probably his worst matchup) that makes me pretty confident. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Group A: I don't care, who wins as long as Rogue qualifies. But it will be quite difficult. Probably Rogue and Zest would be optimal as it was enough time for Zest being downgraded by everybody. I remember, when I mentioned at the end of June that Zest seems to lose slowly his form, people wanted to eat me alive here on TL. And now, the same people do not count Zest among the 5 best protosses. I do. Group B: herO and TY should do fine, I can't cheer for the "opportunist foreigner" True and Pet is just a Pet. An uninteresting group. Group C: Hype! I wish, both MarineLord and Trap could progress, but it is not very likely. Anyway, I want MarineLord at least getting into the decider match, ideally playing all three opponents. Group D: Maru wins as he is the best player from the whole group. The two protosses will fight for their BlizzCon place. Patience is probably the better one, as he easily defeated sOs in his decider match for BlizzCon, so I guess Maru with Patience will go on. Nerchio? Well, I watched the VOD from shoutcraft and he played really well against Maru. Had he lost to Maru, I would be giving him more chances. But now, Maru knows, Nerchio is not an easy walkover, so he will not underestimate him, should these two meet. But I do not think so as both the protosses are too strong for Nerchio. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
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Mier19891
United States75 Posts
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
On September 22 2016 19:23 Fango wrote: Eh, I dunno about that. MC only actually beat Zest one 1 map from a standard game. The other maps MC won were all stalker allins? And Super only took a couple maps of him after Zest already passed his Starleague group (where it makes sense for Zest to lose if he wants easier opponents to advance with him). My memory is dodgy though. His 1-3 to patience was after he slumped hard after the Taeja loss. Remember 2014 when he was considered the best player then lost to Life at blizzcon? Took him nearly a year to get back to form. If i had to bet I'd say he still gonna be slumpin' It's gonna be Byun Rogue, herO TY, Stats Solar, and Classic Patience. Upset possibilities being Neeb and Maru But does it really matter how someone won if they won? In the qualifiers Neeb was up 2-0 and then Scarlett did a quick speedling timing that he didn't expect, and Scarlett won two games from that. In the prior two games Neeb was by far the better player in macro, but he's weaker to early timings. Super actually won one game against Zest before Zest qualified, so I don't think Zest was going easy on him then. And the other game, yes, Zest was already qualified. Actually it was both the Ryung and the Taeja loss, but yes, that is correct. I think we actually agree on Group A, that it's likely going to be Byun and Rogue (with Zest presumably in his slump) but with Neeb as upset material. Of note is that in LotV, Neeb has a 100% series win rate against Korean Protoss. That being said, he's only played 6 maps. That being said, against Korean Zergs, he has a LotV winrate of 61.45% (which includes beta). And again, most of these are Hydra and True, (but True isn't a bad zerg by any means). | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
nerchio will be able to finally prove to us that maru is "not that great" xDDD | ||
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killerm12
Slovakia601 Posts
On September 22 2016 18:14 Nerchio wrote: I heard that losing in Korea might be more profitable than winning hot damn, you really enjoy pissing people off I like it | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
gratz to nerchio for winning, i guess q_q all my tears are real | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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killerm12
Slovakia601 Posts
On September 22 2016 20:36 Incognoto wrote: when did nerchio and maru play? i can't find the tournament match where it happened gratz to nerchio for winning, i guess q_q all my tears are real they played last week in SHOUTCraft Kings, but it was just a Bo1 anyway, it's individual tournament not a PL so no matter what JAGW fans say about Maru's better preparation now as he knows who's he playing against...Maru will bomb as always | ||
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