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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 26 2016 08:51 FrkFrJss wrote: How about you sigbet that no foreigner wins a game? From what people say, I think that should be about even odds :D. Also, you think Maru will make the finals? He's done even worse than Zest. Not to mention PvT is his LotV worst matchup. I wouldn't bet that one tbh :D I am all for shouting KESPAAAA and hyping the korean overlords, but it's still sc2 and not bw. (and even in BW Jaedong lost to a foreigner at WCG) So winning games and maybe even a set is doable, i don't think anyone will make it out of the groups though. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
any1 mad? anyways, predictions: neeb/byun ty/true solar/stats nerchio/classic (kinda tossup here between nerchio/classic and maru/classic) | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On September 26 2016 13:03 travis wrote: I think we are going to have foreigner upsets. I think at least 1 foreigner gets out of groups, with a pretty good chance of 2. I think the foreigners in this are on or near the level of the koreans. I'd put either neeb or nerchio above a random korean in terms of chances of winning the entire tournament. any1 mad? anyways, predictions: neeb/byun ty/true solar/stats nerchio/classic (kinda tossup here between nerchio/classic and maru/classic) Putting Neeb and Nerchio above someone like Pet doesn't mean much. Most people would consider Pet to have 0.1% chance of winning. | ||
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sc2chronic
United States777 Posts
On September 26 2016 13:03 travis wrote: I think we are going to have foreigner upsets. I think at least 1 foreigner gets out of groups, with a pretty good chance of 2. I think the foreigners in this are on or near the level of the koreans. I'd put either neeb or nerchio above a random korean in terms of chances of winning the entire tournament. any1 mad? anyways, predictions: neeb/byun ty/true solar/stats nerchio/classic (kinda tossup here between nerchio/classic and maru/classic) its always nice to hear the opposite side of the coin. making bold predictions without putting anything on the line must be very hard! | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 26 2016 13:31 sc2chronic wrote: its always nice to hear the opposite side of the coin. making bold predictions without putting anything on the line must be very hard! Almost as hard as posting without being snide! | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Neeb should get out of the group, but not when the group consists of Zest, ByuN and Rogue :-)) No chance. Nerchio could get of any average random Korean group. E.g. group B. But he has no chance against Maru (after he has beaten him in ShoutCraft, Maru will take him seriously) and Patience and Classic will fight for their BlizzCon life ... Without this special motivation, I would say, Nerchio could beat one of them, but not in a situation, when everything is on the line for them. | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1207 Posts
On September 26 2016 17:36 Diabolique wrote: I would really wish MarineLord to get out of the group together with Trap, but I know, it is practically impossible. Neeb should get out of the group, but not when the group consists of Zest, ByuN and Rogue :-)) No chance. Nerchio could get of any average random Korean group. E.g. group B. But he has no chance against Maru (after he has beaten him in ShoutCraft, Maru will take him seriously) and Patience and Classic will fight for their BlizzCon life ... Without this special motivation, I would say, Nerchio could beat one of them, but not in a situation, when everything is on the line for them. For MarineLord...yeah. I like how you slam group B as an "average" Korean group, which, more than the others groups, it kind of is. The question for me is what kind of game will Zest and Rogue bring. Zest may have had a few bad months, but before that, he was practically invincible. But rogue, on the other hand, has only a ro16 GSL placement this year, and even his proleague is only 10th. So will they bring their a game? Or will they underestimate Neeb as you said they would have underestimated Nerchio? If Zest and Rogue were playing at tip top level, the yeah, Neeb doesn't really stand a chance. But if they don't being their best form, then he might win or at least upset one. For Nerchio, I think if he can play patience, then he has a chance. Patience is wierd because he somehow manages to win with rather ugly games. And the ugly games are where foreigners and Koreans are more similar because people don't play perfect in those games. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Also Neeb is quite well known on Korea and on the ladder, i doubt they will not prepare for him. Nerchio and MLord maybe, although Dark did say he looked at the Shoutcraft games so other probably have. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On September 26 2016 19:02 Fango wrote: TY usually gets rekt by Maru at least in SPL. Thing is we never see Maru, TY, or Byun fight eachother in a series. One of them gotta be the best TvTer. Theres a good chance they meet in ro8 and ro4. Also Neeb is quite well known on Korea and on the ladder, i doubt they will not prepare for him. Nerchio and MLord maybe, although Dark did say he looked at the Shoutcraft games so other probably have. INno's the best TvTer | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
After J-god. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
After the main patch he actually might be, what with the return of mech | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 26 2016 18:06 FrkFrJss wrote: For MarineLord...yeah. I like how you slam group B as an "average" Korean group, which, more than the others groups, it kind of is. The question for me is what kind of game will Zest and Rogue bring. Zest may have had a few bad months, but before that, he was practically invincible. But rogue, on the other hand, has only a ro16 GSL placement this year, and even his proleague is only 10th. So will they bring their a game? Or will they underestimate Neeb as you said they would have underestimated Nerchio? If Zest and Rogue were playing at tip top level, the yeah, Neeb doesn't really stand a chance. But if they don't being their best form, then he might win or at least upset one. For Nerchio, I think if he can play patience, then he has a chance. Patience is wierd because he somehow manages to win with rather ugly games. And the ugly games are where foreigners and Koreans are more similar because people don't play perfect in those games. Zest had bad results, but I do not think, he lost all his skills from the past. It is time for him to get back to the top. Rogue for me is an amazing player, who always surprises and beats the best opponents, against whom nobody gives him any chance. I think, he is the second best Zerg in the world and he is capable to beat the best Zerg in the world. Capable to beat Zest, capable to beat ByuN. He is not good in winning a weekend tournament with many matches, but in the short series, he is the master and I hope, he will make it out of the group. Under normal circumstances, I would say, Nerchio could beat both Classic and Patience. But if he does, they are out of BlizzCon. Patience has just beaten sOs 2:0, who was fighting for his BlizzCon life. After sOs demolished herO and MyungSiK. He must be seriously good now. I know, it was PvP and this will be PvZ but I still cannot imagine an upset here. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 26 2016 20:01 Diabolique wrote: Zest had bad results, but I do not think, he lost all his skills from the past. It is time for him to get back to the top. Rogue for me is an amazing player, who always surprises and beats the best opponents, against whom nobody gives him any chance. I think, he is the second best Zerg in the world and he is capable to beat the best Zerg in the world. Capable to beat Zest, capable to beat ByuN. He is not good in winning a weekend tournament with many matches, but in the short series, he is the master and I hope, he will make it out of the group. Under normal circumstances, I would say, Nerchio could beat both Classic and Patience. But if he does, they are out of BlizzCon. Patience has just beaten sOs 2:0, who was fighting for his BlizzCon life. After sOs demolished herO and MyungSiK. He must be seriously good now. I know, it was PvP and this will be PvZ but I still cannot imagine an upset here. You think Nerchio can beat Classic? Classic almost beat dark in SSL semifinals in one of the closest PvZs I've ever seen. Classic is easily top 2 maybe number 1 PvZer in Korea. Patience maybe, I think he's a bit overrated recently. He got a lot of wins against top players but i think a lot of it was luck (TY throwing games to get a better seed, Zest being terrible etc). But still an SSl ro4 is a great result. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On September 26 2016 20:01 Diabolique wrote: Zest had bad results, but I do not think, he lost all his skills from the past. It is time for him to get back to the top. Rogue for me is an amazing player, who always surprises and beats the best opponents, against whom nobody gives him any chance. I think, he is the second best Zerg in the world and he is capable to beat the best Zerg in the world. Capable to beat Zest, capable to beat ByuN. He is not good in winning a weekend tournament with many matches, but in the short series, he is the master and I hope, he will make it out of the group. Under normal circumstances, I would say, Nerchio could beat both Classic and Patience. But if he does, they are out of BlizzCon. Patience has just beaten sOs 2:0, who was fighting for his BlizzCon life. After sOs demolished herO and MyungSiK. He must be seriously good now. I know, it was PvP and this will be PvZ but I still cannot imagine an upset here. You honestly believe Rogue is the second best Zerg? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On September 26 2016 13:08 The_Red_Viper wrote: So you are saying you wanna sigbet me? what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid hahaedit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 27 2016 06:36 travis wrote: what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid hahaedit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed I just try to get some sigbets going, if you guys don't like my initial bet you can negotiate a better one  | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 27 2016 03:41 Phredxor wrote: You honestly believe Rogue is the second best Zerg? Well, Rogue has beaten with glory all the other best Zergs, so I should say, he is the BEST Zerg, but that would be stupid to say after Dark's and Solar's performances in the last month. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 27 2016 06:36 travis wrote: what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid hahaedit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed Weighing everything equally (i.e we're assuming that everyone is equally skilled) one or more foreigners would make it out of the groups 87.5% of the time. So that excuse doesn't work. | ||
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