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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 22 2016 05:47 GMT
#21
this should be fun
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
September 22 2016 05:47 GMT
#22
On September 22 2016 14:36 Charoisaur wrote:
Maru to win it all.

also Neeb will lose to Zest's cannonrush.

Zest needs to make cannon rush his thing in order to save some of his lost honor
#1 Blitzcrank #Forever platinum toss --> current diamond Terran <3
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
September 22 2016 05:47 GMT
#23
Cross final on Sunday, then this starting Tuesday. Next week's gonna be great.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
September 22 2016 05:48 GMT
#24
The god of Zerg will stomp group D. Poor Maru is not going to make it
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17731 Posts
September 22 2016 05:49 GMT
#25
On September 22 2016 14:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Holy shit.
Neeb has to practice vs all 3 races + probably the best players of all races. Hahahaha insane!
Gonna be great!

Is Zest really one of the best protoss players right now? I know it was only one game, but that cannon rush was so bad lol it counts for like 100 games
"Expert" mods4ever.com
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 05:51:09
September 22 2016 05:49 GMT
#26
IMB4 Neeb wins his group - unless he chokes again
RIP Moronlord

Pet to win it all with 13/12 every game
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
Toudeleski
Profile Joined August 2011
United States66 Posts
September 22 2016 05:52 GMT
#27
On September 22 2016 14:49 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 14:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Holy shit.
Neeb has to practice vs all 3 races + probably the best players of all races. Hahahaha insane!
Gonna be great!

Is Zest really one of the best protoss players right now? I know it was only one game, but that cannon rush was so bad lol it counts for like 100 games


Proleague games don't carry much weight in terms of a evaluating a Player, doubly so if they're doing some rush/sniper build. Zest has always been more vulnerable in PvP, but I don't see him losing to anyone in his group.
glhf
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
September 22 2016 05:55 GMT
#28
There must be sth behind this; Maru and Nerch in a group.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
September 22 2016 05:56 GMT
#29
On September 22 2016 14:52 Toudeleski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 14:49 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Holy shit.
Neeb has to practice vs all 3 races + probably the best players of all races. Hahahaha insane!
Gonna be great!

Is Zest really one of the best protoss players right now? I know it was only one game, but that cannon rush was so bad lol it counts for like 100 games


Proleague games don't carry much weight in terms of a evaluating a Player, doubly so if they're doing some rush/sniper build. Zest has always been more vulnerable in PvP, but I don't see him losing to anyone in his group.

you don't see Zest losing to Byun?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 22 2016 05:56 GMT
#30
On September 22 2016 14:49 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 14:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Holy shit.
Neeb has to practice vs all 3 races + probably the best players of all races. Hahahaha insane!
Gonna be great!

Is Zest really one of the best protoss players right now? I know it was only one game, but that cannon rush was so bad lol it counts for like 100 games


He is not.
EvilsPresley
Profile Joined December 2014
France132 Posts
September 22 2016 06:00 GMT
#31
On September 22 2016 14:55 Thouhastmail wrote:
There must be sth behind this; Maru and Nerch in a group.

You had one job Kespa Cup... Oh wait... You did it! Thank you Kespa Cup.
Rogue | Maru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 22 2016 06:01 GMT
#32
On September 22 2016 14:49 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 14:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Holy shit.
Neeb has to practice vs all 3 races + probably the best players of all races. Hahahaha insane!
Gonna be great!

Is Zest really one of the best protoss players right now? I know it was only one game, but that cannon rush was so bad lol it counts for like 100 games


Depends what you mean by "one of the best". I would consider him a top 10 Protoss, but not top 5.
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
September 22 2016 06:01 GMT
#33
On September 22 2016 14:52 Toudeleski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 14:49 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Holy shit.
Neeb has to practice vs all 3 races + probably the best players of all races. Hahahaha insane!
Gonna be great!

Is Zest really one of the best protoss players right now? I know it was only one game, but that cannon rush was so bad lol it counts for like 100 games


Proleague games don't carry much weight in terms of a evaluating a Player, doubly so if they're doing some rush/sniper build. Zest has always been more vulnerable in PvP, but I don't see him losing to anyone in his group.


Idea that Zest is slumping isn't based on just that one PL finals game.
It's based on his entire Season 2, including ProLeague
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
September 22 2016 06:04 GMT
#34
On September 22 2016 15:01 killerm12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 14:52 Toudeleski wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:49 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Holy shit.
Neeb has to practice vs all 3 races + probably the best players of all races. Hahahaha insane!
Gonna be great!

Is Zest really one of the best protoss players right now? I know it was only one game, but that cannon rush was so bad lol it counts for like 100 games


Proleague games don't carry much weight in terms of a evaluating a Player, doubly so if they're doing some rush/sniper build. Zest has always been more vulnerable in PvP, but I don't see him losing to anyone in his group.


Idea that Zest is slumping isn't based on just that one PL finals game.
It's based on his entire Season 2, including ProLeague


Like that Starleague loss, where he was defeated 1-3 by Patience (who I would not really consider the pinnacle of PvPers).
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
September 22 2016 06:06 GMT
#35
On September 22 2016 15:04 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 15:01 killerm12 wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:52 Toudeleski wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:49 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Holy shit.
Neeb has to practice vs all 3 races + probably the best players of all races. Hahahaha insane!
Gonna be great!

Is Zest really one of the best protoss players right now? I know it was only one game, but that cannon rush was so bad lol it counts for like 100 games


Proleague games don't carry much weight in terms of a evaluating a Player, doubly so if they're doing some rush/sniper build. Zest has always been more vulnerable in PvP, but I don't see him losing to anyone in his group.


Idea that Zest is slumping isn't based on just that one PL finals game.
It's based on his entire Season 2, including ProLeague


Like that Starleague loss, where he was defeated 1-3 by Patience (who I would not really consider the pinnacle of PvPers).

or the loss to TaeJa...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
September 22 2016 06:08 GMT
#36
The last chance to get points for Blizzcon. Classic and his biggest competitor end up in the same group. Oh KeSPA.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 06:12:18
September 22 2016 06:10 GMT
#37
On September 22 2016 15:06 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 15:04 FrkFrJss wrote:
On September 22 2016 15:01 killerm12 wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:52 Toudeleski wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:49 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 22 2016 14:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Holy shit.
Neeb has to practice vs all 3 races + probably the best players of all races. Hahahaha insane!
Gonna be great!

Is Zest really one of the best protoss players right now? I know it was only one game, but that cannon rush was so bad lol it counts for like 100 games


Proleague games don't carry much weight in terms of a evaluating a Player, doubly so if they're doing some rush/sniper build. Zest has always been more vulnerable in PvP, but I don't see him losing to anyone in his group.


Idea that Zest is slumping isn't based on just that one PL finals game.
It's based on his entire Season 2, including ProLeague


Like that Starleague loss, where he was defeated 1-3 by Patience (who I would not really consider the pinnacle of PvPers).

or the loss to TaeJa...


Or the fact that his last recorded series win was over two months ago. Seriously, though, Patience's PvP record is not impressive whatsoever.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
September 22 2016 06:11 GMT
#38
On September 22 2016 15:08 Elentos wrote:
The last chance to get points for Blizzcon. Classic and his biggest competitor end up in the same group. Oh KeSPA.


what's worse for both of them, they have GOD himself in group as well - Nerchio
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 22 2016 06:13 GMT
#39
Rip herO, TRUE, TY.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 06:41:06
September 22 2016 06:39 GMT
#40
Form is temporary, class is permanent.

I expect Zest to rise again and go far.

LOTV is volatile af. Even the most experienced hands can bombed out in spectacular fashion. But form can also disintegrate in a matter of days. So without being able to read too much into recent results, those with a track record of bouncing back should be the best bets. And that includes Zest (who dropped out of the face of the earth for almost a year only to win IEM finals).

(Zest is definitely top 5 Protoss, if not top 3. He was No 1 not too long ago. For him to slid out of the Top 10 within a short space of time and sample of games is really ridiculous, even if he might eventually fall out within the next few months. That's not rankings work. It would take Djokovic probably half a year to slid out of the top 10 even if he keeps bombing out of consecutive tourneys)
gg no re thx
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