EPTThe Mvp Dynasty - Page 2
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
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Silvana
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Stuchiu so great and famous he even has haters! | ||
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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Creager
Germany1894 Posts
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 19 2016 05:53 Silvana wrote: I didn't know about Starcraft during Mvp's reign, I am so late to the party that I didn't see him play. Still enjoyed the read =) Stuchiu so great and famous he even has haters! Oh man you missed out. MVP is easily my favorite Terran and was sad he just retired. One of the very very few non zergs I liked and would even root for him against Zergs (rare for me to do! They couldn't be my favorite zergs though  ). | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
Honestly, for an article titled "The MVP dynasty" (instead of "Mvp dynasty"...), I expected more about his breakthrough in how to play Terran, in how he was emulated and copied, how he is the only guy with 4 GSL wins (I think?), etc... | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On July 19 2016 04:37 Elentos wrote: I love Mvp as much as the next guy, but how many more articles about him do we need? His entry in The Greatest of All Time said everything that needed to be said. Not the writer fault if there isn't any worthwhile stories being written by the current players nowadays. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On July 19 2016 07:13 Noocta wrote: Not the writer fault if there isn't any worthwhile stories being written by the current players nowadays. He could just not write a new article until something comes up instead of recycling a topic he's already extensively covered. Besides, I'm pretty sure stuchiu still has articles about other topics done that haven't been released yet. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 19 2016 07:13 Noocta wrote: Not the writer fault if there isn't any worthwhile stories being written by the current players nowadays. There is always a story to find. If you are skilled enough (i think stuchiu is) you should be able to connect the dots to a meaningful story, even if it isn't about an era of dominance. I will quote my last post and hope someone bites, because i would be interested to see some other opinions on that :> Well yeah i hink results are kinda important tbh :D I am not saying he didn't do anything in 2012, but i don't see how it would ever count as part of his dominance. I think that statement is quite absurd. I also don't agree with "innovations" being a factor because it's hardly tangible. All we can say is if a player was succesfull with a particular style, giving credit on top of that for something we have no idea about is questionable imo. At the end of the day you need results, Mvp had some good results in 2012 but not nearly good enough for it to be called dominant i think. The funny thing is if we look at 2011 you could argue that he didn't really dominate the whole year either, considering that after his GSL win in January he had rather poor results till august (yes he won that wc thing, but the rest wasn't that amazing) So just from looking at the results in liquipedia i could even say this: Mvp was dominant Agust 2011 - January 2012. 6 months  Is that too hard of a judgement? Why? | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On July 19 2016 07:35 The_Red_Viper wrote: [...] haha you're that bored that you're looking for a fight? I'll help you pick up one quite fast: SOS SUCKS MARU SUCKS JIN AIR WORST KT | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
But his accomplishments in 2012 are the anomalies in that year- which makes them special. He was not dominating by any means. I watched SC2 since beta reguarly and heavily up until late 2013, so I remember all the relative strengths of players at different times. I feel like I've been reading a lot in the few things I read now on teamliquid which are trying to repaint the past in a more romantic light. Also can we remember that even though I might say that during one timeframe no one has dominated as much as MVP ( and that might be true)- let's not forget that while he was great in TvT and TvZ during his reign in 2011 his TvP was always mediocore and that's where he often lost. | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
I disliked MVP so much back then but I accept him now. I wish he could've been able to practice like he wanted. In my opinion, it's true, no one dominated like he did. He was on another level. | ||
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sa1Ko
Argentina99 Posts
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fx9
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 19 2016 07:47 Silvana wrote: haha you're that bored that you're looking for a fight? I'll help you pick up one quite fast: SOS SUCKS MARU SUCKS JIN AIR WORST KT No i am looking to argue about the statements made in the article instead of either saying "wow stuchiu you are the best" or "wow stuchiu you suck" I am not interested in either of those two tbh I don't think there is any value to these articles if it isn't dicsussed afterwards, stuchiu's word isn't inherently correct/wrong. | ||
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Garemie
United States248 Posts
Thanks Stuchiu | ||
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IMSupervisor
Australia138 Posts
On July 19 2016 08:45 The_Red_Viper wrote: No i am looking to argue about the statements made in the article instead of either saying "wow stuchiu you are the best" or "wow stuchiu you suck" I am not interested in either of those two tbh I don't think there is any value to these articles if it isn't dicsussed afterwards, stuchiu's word isn't inherently correct/wrong. Do you also hold that opinion for novels? Poems? Textbooks? Of course people find value in reading. | ||
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NihilisticGod
Northern Ireland174 Posts
Thanks for the reminder Stuchiu. Oh yea, also I remember when his physical condition wasn't great he just busted out the multi cheese in every series to win a GSL, that was pretty epic. Ah we may never see his like again. oh i forgot to mention how much I loved that he was still ridiculously good even when the Terran race wasn't, he was like a meta machine forging his own way | ||
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