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necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
June 05 2016 17:40 GMT
#21
great player that struggled when the competition got better
Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-05 17:48:21
June 05 2016 17:46 GMT
#22
Great reading! I'd love to see such an article about Life as his career is basically over as well
However still #WeBelive
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
June 05 2016 18:23 GMT
#23
Man those games, I still remember those moments like they were yesterday.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 05 2016 18:28 GMT
#24
On June 06 2016 02:04 dankobanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 01:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:

Sure it is really, really hard to come up with a system which would be somewhat objective in that case, i agree.



it really isnt. you value the title by the competition someone faced to win the title. its what the GOAT list is all about. not every GSL title is the same, nor is every better then a DreamHack

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On June 06 2016 01:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:At the same time i think my argument is pretty solid as to why these weekend tournaments are clearly inferior and thus why the achievement of winning such a tournament is clearly not worth as much.



yep, clearly inferior. thats why Inno, Maru, herO, Zest (etc..) won so many of them they attended. or did they? :\ blame the jetlag



If you try to do it that way you would need all the context of that certain timeframe to actually make a good assessment. Nobody can do that realistically. No, not even stuchiu. It gets even tougher because you are basing current results on past results (aka soO was a god => beating him means a lot).


The point isn't to say that the best players of preparation based play would dominate weekend as well (even though your small sample size here doesn't prove they would not), it's more or less to say that weekend tournaments would be more competetive if the whole korean pool would play in every single one of them. Just like in starleagues.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
June 05 2016 18:29 GMT
#25
On June 06 2016 01:56 Ej_ wrote:
Taeja and Life the 2 most talented players to ever touch the keyboard. All the rest were frauds.

Definitely
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Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-05 18:34:55
June 05 2016 18:34 GMT
#26
Fantastic player, fantastic read. Thank you. Taeja, the main reason Protoss got no nerf during the blink area Will miss him a lot!
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
June 05 2016 18:58 GMT
#27
Two out of my three favourite Terrans have retired by now: first MMA, now Taeja. Still playing, strong however, is Polt. To me this is kind of a "holy trinity" of players: they've been there since the beginning, and have always managed to get results. They've all had developed their signature playstyles, and always managed to find a way to make it work.

For me 2016 marks the seventh year I am following starcraft (started with BW in 2009 by watching GomTV's Averatec Intel Classic series cast by Tasteless and SuperDanielMan - whatever happened to that guy anyway?), then continued with SC2. I've been following these players since the very beginning, so seeing them retire does feel like growing up, like moving on.
Airplaneman
Profile Joined May 2011
United States9 Posts
June 05 2016 18:58 GMT
#28
What happens to his Code S seed?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-05 19:09:45
June 05 2016 19:08 GMT
#29
On June 06 2016 03:58 Airplaneman wrote:
What happens to his Code S seed?


I'd imagine all of the code A losers will play in a small wildcard tournament (that probably won't be broadcasted --; ). Winner gets the seed.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
June 05 2016 19:18 GMT
#30
On June 06 2016 04:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 03:58 Airplaneman wrote:
What happens to his Code S seed?


I'd imagine all of the code A losers will play in a small wildcard tournament (that probably won't be broadcasted --; ). Winner gets the seed.

TaeJa will play his last games in Code S.
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dankobanana
Profile Joined February 2016
Croatia238 Posts
June 05 2016 19:20 GMT
#31
On June 06 2016 03:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:

If you try to do it that way you would need all the context of that certain timeframe to actually make a good assessment. Nobody can do that realistically. No, not even stuchiu. It gets even tougher because you are basing current results on past results (aka soO was a god => beating him means a lot).


of course. but he is the only one that put his criteria on paper and wrote a ranking. and a damn good one. by that criteria, Taeja is #3
I have yet to see a similar list with that much effort. maybe you could write one?


On June 06 2016 03:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:The point isn't to say that the best players of preparation based play would dominate weekend as well (even though your small sample size here doesn't prove they would not), it's more or less to say that weekend tournaments would be more competetive if the whole korean pool would play in every single one of them. Just like in starleagues.


small sample size? there is not a single korean player that won so many international tournaments as taeja. how is every single korean that tried to a small sample size? i just pointed out a few of the notable koreans that tried and failed. and try they did
and personally I dont value preparation based play above weekend tours. Zest won the last GSL while being quite bad at playing vs Zerg when he did not have time to prepare. do you value a general that can win more fights any day higher than the one that can win more fights but with time to prepare? definetly not :D
Battle is waged in the name of the many. The brave, who generation after generation choose the mantle of - Dark Templar!
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
June 05 2016 19:23 GMT
#32
I agree. No one plays like Taeja I still don't understand how managed to win so many games while playing so passively with bio of all things. Thorzain was the spoon Terran but Taeja was the brick wall. His opponents would crash against him but they could never break through. He will be rembered as an all time deffensive geniuse right along side rain.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
June 05 2016 19:26 GMT
#33
Thoroughly enjoyed the article.

I remember recording both the INno and Rain matches (you can find them below), I was definitely awed by TaeJa's play (and the use of nukes vs Rain!). I've always liked the long games.

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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
June 05 2016 19:31 GMT
#34
On June 06 2016 03:29 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 01:56 Ej_ wrote:
Taeja and Life the 2 most talented players to ever touch the keyboard. All the rest were frauds.

Definitely

Can we squeeze in a Parting too?, he just lacks a bit of discipline
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
June 05 2016 20:14 GMT
#35
On June 06 2016 02:40 Diabolique wrote:
What is GOAT and GOAT list?


GOAT = Greatest Of All Time
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
imCHIEN
Profile Joined January 2016
14 Posts
June 05 2016 20:15 GMT
#36
First time I saw Taeja is IPL when he wiped out every team alone. From that time, I always <3 Taeja cuz his beautiful unit control and his game sense. And another reason is Artosis, this guy praised GSL players like a god("What Taeja could even do again GSL, nothing") and finally he turned out("this kid gives me a sickest nerd chills on"). Good old day.
P/s: U miss Taeja vs Zest and Taeja vs Solar, those games really point out his game sense in difficult situations.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
June 05 2016 20:18 GMT
#37
Incredible article and very sweet memories. Thanks !!!!
imCHIEN
Profile Joined January 2016
14 Posts
June 05 2016 20:26 GMT
#38
On June 06 2016 04:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Hide nested quote -
On June 06 2016 03:58 Airplaneman wrote:
What happens to his Code S seed?


I'd imagine all of the code A losers will play in a small wildcard tournament (that probably won't be broadcasted --; ). Winner gets the seed.

TaeJa will play his last games in Code S.

What happen if he win GSL and got a seed for Blizzcon
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
June 05 2016 20:53 GMT
#39
On June 06 2016 05:26 imCHIEN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 04:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Hide nested quote -
On June 06 2016 03:58 Airplaneman wrote:
What happens to his Code S seed?


I'd imagine all of the code A losers will play in a small wildcard tournament (that probably won't be broadcasted --; ). Winner gets the seed.

TaeJa will play his last games in Code S.

What happen if he win GSL and got a seed for Blizzcon

Then he would have to win it, for his brother
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Falckon
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway30 Posts
June 05 2016 21:11 GMT
#40
Will really miss watching his games
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