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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
May 12 2016 14:10 GMT
#41
On May 12 2016 23:08 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 18:18 Pandemona wrote:
2 day events in Oakland and America, yet China get a 4 day event way? They are terrible events always in China TT

Oakland and Korea events will be good i feel, Oakland for sure is going to look fantastic!

for a very long period of times, china held the best event out there in esport

and their events are still pretty good nowadays


Very true in general, but not really for SC II imo.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 12 2016 14:24 GMT
#42
It is logical that the tournament in China takes so many days.

Remember the first LotV tournament with Lilbow and Snute? It was like a 10 day tournament with 5 players only, when a player lost with someone, he went to the loser bracket and when he lost there again, he went to the loser's loser bracket, so each player had to play with each other one like 5 times again and again, and if he lost there, he had to play an archon tournament with his right and left hand at the same time. And it was like 2 matches per day, so it this tournament could have taken even a month!

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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
May 12 2016 19:51 GMT
#43
WCS Shanghai confirmed
http://www.intelextrememasters.com/news/starcraft-ii-is-coming-to-intel-extreme-masters-shanghai-sign-up-for-the-qualifier-now/
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3410 Posts
May 12 2016 20:04 GMT
#44
On May 13 2016 04:51 SNSeigifried wrote:
WCS Shanghai confirmed
http://www.intelextrememasters.com/news/starcraft-ii-is-coming-to-intel-extreme-masters-shanghai-sign-up-for-the-qualifier-now/

...yay!!!
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
May 12 2016 20:34 GMT
#45
On May 13 2016 04:51 SNSeigifried wrote:
WCS Shanghai confirmed
http://www.intelextrememasters.com/news/starcraft-ii-is-coming-to-intel-extreme-masters-shanghai-sign-up-for-the-qualifier-now/


So it's not the Global Event.

It's not ever going to happen is it?
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 12 2016 20:58 GMT
#46
On May 13 2016 05:34 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 04:51 SNSeigifried wrote:
WCS Shanghai confirmed
http://www.intelextrememasters.com/news/starcraft-ii-is-coming-to-intel-extreme-masters-shanghai-sign-up-for-the-qualifier-now/


So it's not the Global Event.

It's not ever going to happen is it?


Just wait until it is actually going to be a Co-op mission competition, with Korean like Apocalypse, Natural and journey doing speed run of the missions, in some dream like place such as Saskatoon, Jefferson city or Brest.

+ Show Spoiler +
Actually now that I think about it I would 100% watch that
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 12 2016 21:50 GMT
#47
On May 13 2016 05:34 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 04:51 SNSeigifried wrote:
WCS Shanghai confirmed
http://www.intelextrememasters.com/news/starcraft-ii-is-coming-to-intel-extreme-masters-shanghai-sign-up-for-the-qualifier-now/


So it's not the Global Event.

It's not ever going to happen is it?


It's so infuriating to see this region lock.

Really just fucking disgusting from Blizzard that they went through with this. It's not even like 1 or 2 spots for Koreans. No, it's flat out zero.
maru lover forever
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 12 2016 22:31 GMT
#48
On May 13 2016 06:50 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 05:34 showstealer1829 wrote:
On May 13 2016 04:51 SNSeigifried wrote:
WCS Shanghai confirmed
http://www.intelextrememasters.com/news/starcraft-ii-is-coming-to-intel-extreme-masters-shanghai-sign-up-for-the-qualifier-now/


So it's not the Global Event.

It's not ever going to happen is it?


It's so infuriating to see this region lock.

Really just fucking disgusting from Blizzard that they went through with this. It's not even like 1 or 2 spots for Koreans. No, it's flat out zero.

It is so stupid that I am starting to believe, Blizzard had actually a reason for it. Maybe, IEM, DreamHack and the others threatened to remove SC2 completely from their events. I can't imagine it as SC2 is for me the only interesting e-sport to watch. I do not understand the masses, who are interested in watching LOL, CS and similar boring (in comparison with SC2) sports. Who knows. But even if this threat was real, I would prefer all IEMs and DHs without SC2 completely than the Korean ban. Even if the community of fans of SC2 is shrinking, I am sure, we would still deliver a good viewership if there were fewer tournaments worldwide, so whichever company would include SC2 into their events, the hunger for SC2 with fewer tournaments would bring the necessary numbers.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 12 2016 23:14 GMT
#49
On May 13 2016 07:31 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 06:50 Incognoto wrote:
On May 13 2016 05:34 showstealer1829 wrote:
On May 13 2016 04:51 SNSeigifried wrote:
WCS Shanghai confirmed
http://www.intelextrememasters.com/news/starcraft-ii-is-coming-to-intel-extreme-masters-shanghai-sign-up-for-the-qualifier-now/


So it's not the Global Event.

It's not ever going to happen is it?


It's so infuriating to see this region lock.

Really just fucking disgusting from Blizzard that they went through with this. It's not even like 1 or 2 spots for Koreans. No, it's flat out zero.

It is so stupid that I am starting to believe, Blizzard had actually a reason for it. Maybe, IEM, DreamHack and the others threatened to remove SC2 completely from their events. I can't imagine it as SC2 is for me the only interesting e-sport to watch. I do not understand the masses, who are interested in watching LOL, CS and similar boring (in comparison with SC2) sports. Who knows. But even if this threat was real, I would prefer all IEMs and DHs without SC2 completely than the Korean ban. Even if the community of fans of SC2 is shrinking, I am sure, we would still deliver a good viewership if there were fewer tournaments worldwide, so whichever company would include SC2 into their events, the hunger for SC2 with fewer tournaments would bring the necessary numbers.

its like this because the community wanted it this way.

not the whole community mind you, but as a general statement
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
May 13 2016 01:01 GMT
#50
Yeah i don't think it's blizzards fault either. I'd assume ESL and DH said they wanted this so blizz has to do it basically.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 13 2016 01:16 GMT
#51
DH Leipzig was what DH had in mind for sc2 without the current system :/
Zest fanboy.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 13 2016 14:41 GMT
#52
Hold on a second

IEM and DH wanted Koreans to be locked out?

Who is the bad guy here, Blizzard or tournament organisers? Can I get a source?
maru lover forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
May 13 2016 14:49 GMT
#53
On May 13 2016 23:41 Incognoto wrote:
Hold on a second

IEM and DH wanted Koreans to be locked out?

Who is the bad guy here, Blizzard or tournament organisers? Can I get a source?

there is no source but when kim phan was asked why the system from last year was changed she said she's not allowed to talk about it which sounds like they were forced to do it.
I mean if there would be a practical reason to change the format why would she not be allowed to say it.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55551 Posts
May 13 2016 15:14 GMT
#54
On May 13 2016 23:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 23:41 Incognoto wrote:
Hold on a second

IEM and DH wanted Koreans to be locked out?

Who is the bad guy here, Blizzard or tournament organisers? Can I get a source?

there is no source but when kim phan was asked why the system from last year was changed she said she's not allowed to talk about it which sounds like they were forced to do it.
I mean if there would be a practical reason to change the format why would she not be allowed to say it.

ESL and DH being main reasons for how the new WCS system looks was already talked about back in December when Blizzard announced the system. Especially cause they mentioned the system was created in agreement with those organizers.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 13 2016 15:45 GMT
#55
On May 13 2016 23:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 23:41 Incognoto wrote:
Hold on a second

IEM and DH wanted Koreans to be locked out?

Who is the bad guy here, Blizzard or tournament organisers? Can I get a source?

there is no source but when kim phan was asked why the system from last year was changed she said she's not allowed to talk about it which sounds like they were forced to do it.
I mean if there would be a practical reason to change the format why would she not be allowed to say it.


Sounds really shady.

Not liking the sound of this one!
maru lover forever
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
May 13 2016 15:50 GMT
#56
IEM Goyang gonna be so hype!! [image loading] [image loading] [image loading]
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 13 2016 15:52 GMT
#57
On May 14 2016 00:45 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 23:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 13 2016 23:41 Incognoto wrote:
Hold on a second

IEM and DH wanted Koreans to be locked out?

Who is the bad guy here, Blizzard or tournament organisers? Can I get a source?

there is no source but when kim phan was asked why the system from last year was changed she said she's not allowed to talk about it which sounds like they were forced to do it.
I mean if there would be a practical reason to change the format why would she not be allowed to say it.


Sounds really shady.

Not liking the sound of this one!


To expand on this, I asked Kim Phan why they didn't just keep the WCS premiere league with it's 3 seasons and region locked it, while keeping DH and IEM as they were and open for Koreans. My guess was that ESL no longer wanted to produce WCS Premiere studio events so Blizzard was forced to come up with this plan b which would also explain the delay in the announcement.

Sadly she was not allowed to answer, but I kinda took it as a silent confirmation. Still it's all guesswork.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=103&topic_id=505248
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 21 2016 17:07 GMT
#58
So it is confirmed that there is no sc2 at Oakland, it will feature CS:GO and LoL. Just putting the info here for anybody who was wondering.

http://en.intelextrememasters.com/news/intel-extreme-masters-returns-to-the-bay-area-announcing-the-iem-oakland-ticket-sales/
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 21 2016 17:25 GMT
#59
On May 22 2016 02:07 Musicus wrote:
So it is confirmed that there is no sc2 at Oakland, it will feature CS:GO and LoL. Just putting the info here for anybody who was wondering.

http://en.intelextrememasters.com/news/intel-extreme-masters-returns-to-the-bay-area-announcing-the-iem-oakland-ticket-sales/

Well, if IEM come to Korea and do not include sc2 into the event, then shame on IEM, Intel should be banned in Korea as a company! Some boycott of Intel processors, I hope, AMD is still alive :-)
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Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
May 23 2016 19:07 GMT
#60
SO disappointed that there will be no Starcraft at the Oakland IEM event. FML
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