EPTMajOr disqualified from Copa América 2016 Season 2 - Page 8
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Mangooza
89 Posts
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pieroog
Poland146 Posts
 ...this is so "1984"! EDIT: Even though I don't like Major's personality at all, I'm 100% with him on this and I wish him well. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
You! Go practice! You should be scared now, you know, in this atmosphere, if you lose to Mana, somebody could say, you did not need to qualify anymore and wanted to help your friend ... | ||
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DuckloadBlackra
225 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:13 BronzeKnee wrote: It was too long, I actually just didn't read it. LOL it was literally one sentence (2 lines) long... | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:20 Diabolique wrote: You! Go practice! You should be scared now, you know, in this atmosphere, if you lose to Mana, somebody could say, you did not need to qualify anymore and wanted to help your friend ... I sure do want to help my friend haha :D go to the losers bracket | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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Major
Mexico539 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:21 Nerchio wrote: I sure do want to help my friend haha :D go to the losers bracket already sent em the replays. but its funny i had to find a way to contact em instaed of they just asking me for it. ;/ | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:21 DuckloadBlackra wrote: LOL it was literally one sentence (2 lines) long... That is long brah, this is a long thread. Actually, that is just my copy pasta excuse. Anyway, I went back and it read it and it is irrelevant. I can go 1-10 against someone and lose 90 ladder points. But if that one win is a free win they gave me, I should have lost 100 ladder points. And that 10 ladder points could matter, I could beg them to give a free win for ladder points if he is already qualified, ect... And Nerchio, aren't you about to play MaNa? Or is it not really live? Good luck! | ||
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PPN
France248 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:08 todespolka wrote: Blizzard doesnt need to show you evidence. Its only between the player and blizzard. Also players have most certainly the rules already. If not you can be assure that the rules of last year count. If proplayer received the rules after blys action, then thats the point when the rules count. I have no idea why this community thinks, blizzards need to inform anybody about anything. Are you doing the same in real life? Also ladder qualification wanted the community. Not blizzard. But i am sure, you will now say, that they shouldnt do what the community says. Either way you will always find a way to blame blizzard. I am their customer and their fan dude. Blizzard does not need to provide me evidence indeed, but I at my own personal level sure as hell will ask for it anyway if I feel it is the right course of action and make sure by writing and voting with my money that they change their mind. Things do not have to stay wrong. And yeah I tend to do that for what is important to me in real life, it is a shame you probably don't given your wording. I have no idea what you are talking about for the rest, Blizzard has done both some nice and terrible things recently, so I'm not sure what you are on about. So how about you shove your passive-aggressive statement in your own ass and focus on the matter itself? User was warned for this post | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:22 Major wrote: already sent em the replays. but its funny i had to find a way to contact em instaed of they just asking me for it. ;/ really feeling sorry for you. but I am sure, they will not take it back, then they would lose their face even more as completely incompetent. But let's hope they will not disqualify you from anything else ... | ||
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pieroog
Poland146 Posts
On April 10 2016 00:24 NonY wrote: It is pretty ridiculous that you can forfeit games at a tournament without being DQ'd, but when playing a ladder competition, where it's more likely that you'll forfeit some games (playing many more games of much less importance), you automatically get DQ'd if you forfeit. ...I cannot recall a single post from Tyler that wasn't a treat to read. | ||
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Major
Mexico539 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
I heard the WCS rulebook wasn't even done for 2016 though, so I don't know what is happening. On April 10 2016 00:24 NonY wrote: It is pretty ridiculous that you can forfeit games at a tournament without being DQ'd, but when playing a ladder competition, where it's more likely that you'll forfeit some games (playing many more games of much less importance), you automatically get DQ'd if you forfeit. Sure, but that isn't a problem with the ladder, it is a problem with the tournament format. If the ladder is going to be something beyond a practice arena, then it needs to have rules against purposely throwing matches, just like a tournament should. But I personally think ladder shouldn't be a qualifier for anything, ever. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:02 PPN wrote: The community is entitled to its opinion. Whatever we believe or who we side with is not really important. I won't even start a debate about how bad a ladder based qualification probably is (but yeah I tend to agree with Nony). What is the source of tension and all the drama is how badly and differently Blizzard handles the issues and how to communicate about them. Bly lost on purpose and arranged its seed in previous WCS season? No problem. Mlord and DnS cheat the system? Insta-DQ without much showing evidence (is it that hard to try to be transparent?). Bunny has some suspicious wins around the time of lock? Blizzard says nothing, Bunny has to go out of his way to explain what happened (props to him, but it should have been up to Blizzard to do the comment). Major has suspicious behaviour? Insta-DQ without event asking the player. Blizzard's behaviour is inconsistent and messy, their communication is pretty terrible and parasited by the players'. There is obviously something wrong at Blizzard, some people there are NOT doing their job. And I mean the ones who make the call and write what they report to the players and/or the community. If they want to do the ruling in WCS, fine by me but they should not do it half-assedly. I don't know, it is that hard to try to follow a sensible protocol for starters? Such as: - contact players investigated - investigate and tell them to shut up in the mean time - once it's settled, make the call, write the statement to the community and provide some evidence I agree with the issues in the protocol. But my point was about the inconsitency in the community reaction. Sure, the community is entitled with its opinion, i never standed against it. I also won't point fingers to individuals. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
^Basing myself on what I read from that post, I 150% support Major in his current predicament. What Blizzard is doing is absolutely nuts. The ladder qualifier is the most ridiculously dumb thing ever if you can get banned over so little. Is there more compelling evidence? Absolutely atrocious Blizzard, absolutely atrocious. Marinelord and DNS probably also got banned over some dumb technicality as well. You know what I'm going to take back everything I said in that thread. I think Blizzard needs to seriously re-evaluate what they're doing to Starcraft as an eSport. ^Good PPN quote above mine. | ||
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Ronski
Finland266 Posts
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Elentos
55506 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:30 Incognoto wrote: Marinelord and DNS probably also got banned over some dumb technicality as well. You know what I'm going to take back everything I said in that thread. So you now support the WCS system? Because I'm pretty sure that's what almost all your posts in that thread were about. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:31 Ronski wrote: I left a game early today because my phone rang and the person refused to let me pause, should I report this to blizzard? I was your opponent, and I already reported you so you're good. | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
On April 10 2016 02:28 Major wrote: if you guys really think i deserve to be banned over leaving 1game vs lambo cause i had to go take a shit. than i dont know what if instead my internet dropped? woulda i been a cheater too? im sure it had to happen to some other ppl as well. for what ever reason they left game early. its not fair to ban someone because of this. If what you stated is true, and i believe until its proven wrong, then its indeed bullshit. | ||
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