Blizzcon is listed seperately so I assume IEM Katowice and the WCS season final thingys. Not where you win 100k for yourself necessarily but where there's a 100k+ prize pool.

Orr

United States168 Posts

March 18 2016 15:23 GMT

#127

All this newfound discussion surrounding the importance (exclusion from this ranking system) of Proleague feels like a watershed moment for me. There was virtually no debate about it until I started writing in detail beginning in Part 1 and continuing through Part 2 about why I thought it was a critical component in evaluating the totality of the best of the best.

Now everyone is mentioning it like common sense stuff, although it's clear many haven't watched enough PL to fully understand the dominant players, trends, meta changes, and pressure cooker that is the best team league in the world (by far).

Tes-Jaf

3 Posts

March 18 2016 15:29 GMT

#128

#2 Taeja xd someone can make a serious list plz?

Tosster

Poland299 Posts

March 18 2016 15:38 GMT

#129

Taeja #2 is laughable

BlackZetsu

United States179 Posts

March 18 2016 15:47 GMT

#130

On March 19 2016 00:23 Elentos wrote:

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Blizzcon is listed seperately so I assume IEM Katowice and the WCS season final thingys. Not where you win 100k for yourself necessarily but where there's a 100k+ prize pool.

Thanks! Didn't realize the 2013 WCS Season Finals had $150,000 prize pools.

Diabolique

Czech Republic5118 Posts

March 18 2016 16:12 GMT

#131

Come on, guys, you can't be serious about HerO being more handsome than herO!
When you ask any KESPA player, they will agree that herO is number 1. But you need to ask primarily Korean ladies. And even Maru's mother is saying, how handsome is herO.

TheLordofAwesome

Korea (South)2655 Posts

March 18 2016 16:14 GMT

#132

So much salt over the rankings.

Alarak89

United States882 Posts

March 18 2016 16:27 GMT

#133

IMO the greatest HotS player is between sOs and Innovation, Life is no.3. The rest of the HotS players do not qualify for top 3.

Ctesias

4595 Posts

March 18 2016 16:53 GMT

#134

I'm sure we'll see Taeja in the top 2 for Lotv even if he retires after this season.

Otherwise a nice read.

RKC

2848 Posts

March 18 2016 16:59 GMT

#135

Yeah, and why not rank Chile over Spain and Argentina in the 'Greatest Footballing Nation In The Last Decade' while you're at it...

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

March 18 2016 17:04 GMT

#136

On March 18 2016 23:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Classic handsome #1
Byul handsome #2

Got that chin fetish going on

Diabolique

Czech Republic5118 Posts

March 18 2016 17:18 GMT

#137

On March 19 2016 02:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:

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Got that chin fetish going on

No no, ByuL's chin is fake. He is not a true protoss.

Ensiferum8

Canada103 Posts

March 18 2016 17:29 GMT

#138

This list aside, it should be pretty obvious that Jun TaeYang is the cutest pro. HerO and MKP maybe not too far behind.

Topim0

Finland8 Posts

March 18 2016 17:42 GMT

#139

So glad I don't have to take this part of the list seriously because earlier parts were so shitty.

BlackZetsu

United States179 Posts

March 18 2016 17:43 GMT

#140

On March 19 2016 01:27 Alarak89 wrote:
IMO the greatest HotS player is between sOs and Innovation, Life is no.3. The rest of the HotS players do not qualify for top 3.

Category Innovation sOs Advantage
Blizzcon Championships 0 2 sOs
GSL Championships 2 0 Innovation
IEM 1 - Gamescome 1 - Katowice sOs
Proleague 72% Winrate 2015 Tied Most Wins 2014; 61% winrate, 2 all kills 2015 sOs
WCS Season Championship 1 0 Innovation
2nd Places GSL 2013; Dreamhack Bucharest 2013 2013 WCS Season 1; Red Bull Battlegrounds NY 2013 Even
Minor Tournament Championships None 2015 MSI; 2014 Hot6 Cup sOs
2013 GSL Top 4, Top 16; Top 4, Top 32, Top 16 Even
2014 GSL Top 16; Top 8, Top 32, Top 16 sOs
2015 GSL/SSL SSL: Top 32, Top 32, Top 8
GSL: Top 8, Top 16 SSL: Top 32, Top 16
GSL: Top 4, Top 16 Innovation

The big difference is sOs’s Blizzcons, IEM Katowice and 2014 Proleague vs Innovation’s 2 GSL’s and WCS 2013 Season 1 Championship. Most people are weighting GSLs higher than Blizzcons, so I will give the argument for why Blizzcon should be weighted higher:
1. It is easier for a player in Korea to make it to the Ro16 of GSL than to make it to Blizzcon. Thus, only the best of the best from Korea will make it to Blizzcon.
2. The “foreign” Koreans at 2013 Blizzcon were still in their prime and defeated all of the GSL Koreans in attendance (except for sOs).
3. 2015 Blizzcon was stacked with the best Koreans due to the double GSL/SSL tournament system in Korea. sOs defeated Parting, Rain, Rogue and Life. Innovation lost in the 2nd round to Life.
4. The pressure of winning on the big global stage is greater than in the comfortable confines of the GSL studio.
5. Money is the most objective measurement of a tournament’s significance, and it can be safely assumed that players will put the most effort into winning the most money.

Even if you weigh Blizzcon and GSL evenly, sOs comes out ahead in other categories. Innovation did not play in 2014 Proleague, while sOs tied for most Proleague wins that season. Innovatoin’s other championships are WCS Season 1 2013 and IEM Gamescom, while sOs won IEM Katowice, 2014 Hot6 Cup and MSI Masters. Winning a WCS Season finals is obviously top tier, but winning IEM Katowice and a Hot6 Cup outweighs it. It’s close, maybe even closer than sOs and Life, but I think sOs gets the slight edge.