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MMA: “The Unlikely Hero of SC2”

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XXTN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States124 Posts
February 20 2016 20:47 GMT
#1
Hi everyone! I recently made a short documentary on MMA's career in honor of his retirement and my hope is for the StarCraft community to remember and celebrate the unforgettable contributions MMA made to the game throughout the years.

To me, MMA had one of the craziest roller coaster careers in StarCraft 2 that made for a classic story of perseverance. Here is a man who was once vilified by the team that raised him, then revived his career through sheer will and battled his way back to the top. He showed us just what could be accomplished by working hard and maintaining a positive mindset at our darkest hours, and for that he will always have my respect.

Please let me your thoughts on MMA's story and help me to remember one of the game's all time greats.

Thanks and enjoy the video!

Writer@TL_XXTN
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 20 2016 20:56 GMT
#2
See you in 2017 MMA
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
February 20 2016 20:59 GMT
#3
Thanks for this. As a Terran player, you always had a favorite among MMA, MVP, MKP in WoL and they all such vastly different styles it was just a joy to watch. But beyond just his play, what really set apart MMA for me was that how much he interacted with his fans. I remember going to the Code S studios and watching him, getting pictures and autographs from 2010 all the way to 2015, he still remained the same kind of person. All the pro gamers talk about their fans and how important it is for them, but not to talk bad on Innovation, but MMA always felt like he was genuinely happy to meet you.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
February 20 2016 21:01 GMT
#4
Really great video.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
XXTN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States124 Posts
February 20 2016 21:04 GMT
#5
On February 21 2016 05:59 Chaggi wrote:
Thanks for this. As a Terran player, you always had a favorite among MMA, MVP, MKP in WoL and they all such vastly different styles it was just a joy to watch. But beyond just his play, what really set apart MMA for me was that how much he interacted with his fans. I remember going to the Code S studios and watching him, getting pictures and autographs from 2010 all the way to 2015, he still remained the same kind of person. All the pro gamers talk about their fans and how important it is for them, but not to talk bad on Innovation, but MMA always felt like he was genuinely happy to meet you.


I remember meeting him at Blizzcon 2014 and he was full of smiles and upbeat even though he had just lost in the finals. He was definetly one of the friendliest and approachable players.

Also, thanks Stu and Aeromi for helping to spread the word!
Writer@TL_XXTN
genghiswolve
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany101 Posts
February 20 2016 22:21 GMT
#6
MMA never really stuck me cause I dont follow the competitive scene when he was most promiment, in WOL. But this video was awesome, really well made! Only thing I miss is MC singing, but hey

Question though, does HSC count as premier tournamement? Or what else did he win in lotv?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10082 Posts
February 20 2016 23:29 GMT
#7
great video, perfect music... too many feels
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
February 21 2016 01:27 GMT
#8
truly one of the greatest zergs to ever play
terrible, terrible, damage
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
February 21 2016 01:36 GMT
#9
Dude, your videos are sooooo good.
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
XXTN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States124 Posts
February 21 2016 01:49 GMT
#10
Thanks bro, that means a lot! I want to keep making them as long as I have the time. After I come up with an idea, each one takes me about 15-20hrs from start to finish
Writer@TL_XXTN
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
February 21 2016 02:49 GMT
#11
one of my favorite terran players for sure.
"Right on" - Morrow
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
February 21 2016 03:43 GMT
#12
I cried. Videos like these are lovely and remind me of why I'm proud to be a gamer and proud to support eSports.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
loko822
Profile Joined January 2015
54 Posts
February 21 2016 09:04 GMT
#13
well done. You can see there is alot of effort in it its just not random clips after each other it makes sense and there is a thought process behind it as well with the music. GJ!
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
February 21 2016 10:27 GMT
#14
Very nicely done, XXTN. It was a bit difficult to hear the narration over the other video clips, but apart from that I think you've done a good job.
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-21 10:43:36
February 21 2016 10:43 GMT
#15
Great video for a great player, thanks!
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 21 2016 11:05 GMT
#16
Thanks for this video it was great, that DRG vs MMA seventh game was what ushered me into SC2 it mesmerized me.

Starcraft 2 won't be the same without MMA, hope he comes back fast!
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3413 Posts
February 21 2016 15:02 GMT
#17
Thank'you for this, thank'you MMA!
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
hsEpSyLoN
Profile Joined September 2013
France9 Posts
February 21 2016 16:03 GMT
#18
I'm crying like a little girl
XXTN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States124 Posts
February 21 2016 18:59 GMT
#19
On February 22 2016 01:03 hsEpSyLoN wrote:
I'm crying like a little girl


Just the reaction I was going for haha
Writer@TL_XXTN
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 21 2016 19:12 GMT
#20
Thanks for making this. It feels really sad to lose him as an active player.
Sogetsu
Profile Joined July 2011
514 Posts
February 21 2016 19:13 GMT
#21
:'( , MMA... I will always remember him, and also because my girlfriend liked him a lot and even went to see him playing in one of the WCS finals wears ago in Toronto.
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The Fish
Profile Joined March 2011
United States176 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-21 21:37:19
February 21 2016 21:36 GMT
#22
Damn that was beautiful. MMA became my favorite player when I saw him in the gstl way back. I remember when he played Bomber for the first time in gstl. MMA clearly outplayed him up to the point of the weird base trade. He handled the game poorly after that point, but I was blown away at the amount of attention Bomber was receiving in comparison to MMA. That was not an amazing show of skill from Bomber, that was MMA's flub. He was a monster waiting for proper recognition. It would only be a matter of time before he would get it.

Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 22 2016 09:26 GMT
#23
Thorin's commentary fading in and out of this is awesome, good retrospective.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
GranC
Profile Joined October 2013
21 Posts
February 22 2016 10:02 GMT
#24
really nice video and i like this instrumental so much, thank you for creating this video.
TaeJa TY SpeeD | @sadGranC
Riquiz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
February 22 2016 16:13 GMT
#25
That was sick, thanks for the amazing video <3
Caster man does casting on yt/RiquizCasts
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
February 22 2016 18:46 GMT
#26
Will sorely miss MMA. He truly was one of the best people to work with, always so humble and expressive. Was a real pleasure to work with him for the past 3 years.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 22 2016 19:24 GMT
#27
Thank you for everything MMA! His resilience and longevity is unparalleled in SC2
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
February 22 2016 22:07 GMT
#28
That was beautiful, well done!
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Rosho24
Profile Joined February 2016
1 Post
February 22 2016 22:10 GMT
#29
I got emotional watching it. It's these well constructed, short, documentaries that always light that fire for SC passion.

Thank you so much for making this. A real treat.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
February 22 2016 22:17 GMT
#30
Brought tears to my eyes. One of the greatest to ever touch the game. Handsome, elegant, full of class, entertaining to watch, incredibly clever. And such awesome storylines. That 2014 Blizzcon run is something I'll never forget. Hands down in my top 3 favorite players of all time alongside Rain and Zest. Thanks for making such videos, they remember me why I love SC2 so much.
XXTN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States124 Posts
February 22 2016 22:44 GMT
#31
Thank you all for showing MMA your love, and I'm very grateful for all the kind words!!

I really appreciate all your support - it's what motivates me to keep producing content for the game I love.
Writer@TL_XXTN
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 23 2016 00:59 GMT
#32
TL, spotlight this post!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
February 23 2016 01:13 GMT
#33
On February 23 2016 09:59 Bagration wrote:
TL, spotlight this post!

please
Mobile08
Profile Joined January 2016
United States12 Posts
February 23 2016 06:51 GMT
#34
For only being around 8 minutes long, that was a good summary of his career. MMA will be missed.
Macro Macro Macro
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
February 23 2016 07:33 GMT
#35
He was always my favorite SC2 player by far.
sorry for dem one liners
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
February 23 2016 22:14 GMT
#36
Great video thanks, I like how you interjected the scenes with Thorin's comments.

MMA, what a hero.
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
February 23 2016 22:33 GMT
#37
Omg that made me tear up :'(
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
February 24 2016 02:19 GMT
#38
Nerd tears. Between the BlizzCon GSL victory chants, and the Wheat and Day9 reaction to the IdrA game in MLG, this video has reminded me of just how fucking awesome MMA is. Thank you so much MMA, and thanks for the video
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
mooncifer
Profile Joined October 2012
109 Posts
February 24 2016 19:45 GMT
#39
XXTN, thanks for this great video. And reading people's love for MMA makes me miss this guy more. He's really the kindest person I've ever known. XXTN, hope you don't mind I share a never told story about MMA here.

It was in 2014 IEM Shenzhen. Many Korean players participated in that tournament, including MMA and inno. I was working there too, so I had chances to get closer to them.

On the quarterfinals day, there was an inno's fangirl taking 2 hours flight from another city to support him, but unfortunately inno lost. The girl was very sad; what made her more upset was inno's emotionless reaction to her. Btw, I don't think it's inno's right or wrong. It's just his robotic personality. He was truly not excited when facing fans, and didn't know to hide it. That girl cried after inno leaving the studio. Because she picked many gifts and wanted to give to inno another day. It's inno's birthday the next week. But he said he would not be in the studio tomorrow.

Anyway, I told MMA about this after dinner, and we laughed like "oh gosh it's just so inno". Then MMA said, "hey, I have a good idea. How about tomorrow we invite that girl to have lunch together?" We three were planning to take a tour the next day, so MMA suggested involving that girl too. And the following words he said I will never forget——

“Off course I will buy her lunch. But, please don't let her know it. Just tell her it is inno buy her food, and say inno want to thanks for her support. I guess it can make her feel better. How do you think about it?”

Guys, what else could I think about it, except that he's the nicest boy in the world? I mean, that's even not his fan, just kind of a stranger that he will never meet again. But he also would like to be kind, without taking credit. In case someone is interested, MMA is not a prodigal man. Buying an extra lunch may cost him around $15, which's nearly equal to the taxi fee from GSL studio to his team house. As far as I know, he rarely took the taxi in Seoul. He chose to take the bus all the time, even after 5 hours matches without eating, even when it would take him more than 1 hour on the road, even when it's already around midnight.

And it's not the end of that night's lovely story. When I back to that girl, I found she already rescheduled the plane to the next morning, because "I have no reason to stay here if I can't watch him anymore." Oh gosh……And she's so regret. I discussed with MMA again, and he quickly had another great idea, "how about we hold a specific fan meeting for them!^^"

There we go. So we four met at the hotel lobby. The girl brought all the carefully chosen gifts there, and inno was well educated by MMA to keep smiling and show gratefulness through the whole meeting. And since they two cannot communicate each other, MMA and I volunteered to interpret —— The girl asked questions in Chinese, then I translated it into English, then MMA translated it into Korean. And after inno answered in Korean, we translated it back. It was an exclusively joyful fan meeting. MMA was very patient in the whole one hour, often joking around to make everyone laugh and relaxed, although later he told me that actually his stomach was not feeling good all the night. But don't worry. MMA was happy too. He's very excited about the fact that he could become a Korean-English translator, lol. Btw, His English was not bad at all, but he's always not confident and was too shy to show it on broadcast. MMA said it's the very first time people trust him to translate (tbh we didn't have other choice at that time, haha), so at the end, he also said thanks to us too.

That's MMA. He helped you, but didn't want you feel you owe him. The boy has a heart of gold. He deserves the best in the world.

[image loading]

How can you not miss this guy?
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XXTN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States124 Posts
February 25 2016 02:33 GMT
#40
I'm really glad you shared this heart-felt story. It's a great memory that goes a long way to show the quality of MMA's character and how he could never have possibility been the type of cancer that Slayers portrayed him as. I think it's just such a shame that he had to go through that type of drama at the prime of his career. If it weren't for the Slayers drama, I feel MMA could certainly have won a few more championships.
Writer@TL_XXTN
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 26 2016 00:42 GMT
#41
On February 25 2016 04:45 mooncifer wrote:
XXTN, thanks for this great video. And reading people's love for MMA makes me miss this guy more. He's really the kindest person I've ever known. XXTN, hope you don't mind I share a never told story about MMA here.

It was in 2014 IEM Shenzhen. Many Korean players participated in that tournament, including MMA and inno. I was working there too, so I had chances to get closer to them.

On the quarterfinals day, there was an inno's fangirl taking 2 hours flight from another city to support him, but unfortunately inno lost. The girl was very sad; what made her more upset was inno's emotionless reaction to her. Btw, I don't think it's inno's right or wrong. It's just his robotic personality. He was truly not excited when facing fans, and didn't know to hide it. That girl cried after inno leaving the studio. Because she picked many gifts and wanted to give to inno another day. It's inno's birthday the next week. But he said he would not be in the studio tomorrow.

Anyway, I told MMA about this after dinner, and we laughed like "oh gosh it's just so inno". Then MMA said, "hey, I have a good idea. How about tomorrow we invite that girl to have lunch together?" We three were planning to take a tour the next day, so MMA suggested involving that girl too. And the following words he said I will never forget——

“Off course I will buy her lunch. But, please don't let her know it. Just tell her it is inno buy her food, and say inno want to thanks for her support. I guess it can make her feel better. How do you think about it?”

Guys, what else could I think about it, except that he's the nicest boy in the world? I mean, that's even not his fan, just kind of a stranger that he will never meet again. But he also would like to be kind, without taking credit. In case someone is interested, MMA is not a prodigal man. Buying an extra lunch may cost him around $15, which's nearly equal to the taxi fee from GSL studio to his team house. As far as I know, he rarely took the taxi in Seoul. He chose to take the bus all the time, even after 5 hours matches without eating, even when it would take him more than 1 hour on the road, even when it's already around midnight.

And it's not the end of that night's lovely story. When I back to that girl, I found she already rescheduled the plane to the next morning, because "I have no reason to stay here if I can't watch him anymore." Oh gosh……And she's so regret. I discussed with MMA again, and he quickly had another great idea, "how about we hold a specific fan meeting for them!^^"

There we go. So we four met at the hotel lobby. The girl brought all the carefully chosen gifts there, and inno was well educated by MMA to keep smiling and show gratefulness through the whole meeting. And since they two cannot communicate each other, MMA and I volunteered to interpret —— The girl asked questions in Chinese, then I translated it into English, then MMA translated it into Korean. And after inno answered in Korean, we translated it back. It was an exclusively joyful fan meeting. MMA was very patient in the whole one hour, often joking around to make everyone laugh and relaxed, although later he told me that actually his stomach was not feeling good all the night. But don't worry. MMA was happy too. He's very excited about the fact that he could become a Korean-English translator, lol. Btw, His English was not bad at all, but he's always not confident and was too shy to show it on broadcast. MMA said it's the very first time people trust him to translate (tbh we didn't have other choice at that time, haha), so at the end, he also said thanks to us too.

That's MMA. He helped you, but didn't want you feel you owe him. The boy has a heart of gold. He deserves the best in the world.

[image loading]

How can you not miss this guy?


That's an awesome story - thanks for sharing! Mind reposting this to MMA's fanclub? I'm sure the guys and gals over there would appreciate it!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
AaBbCc
Profile Joined February 2016
New Zealand110 Posts
February 26 2016 00:49 GMT
#42
Thanks for taking the time to make this. It brought back a lot of very fond memories.

Watching MMA vs. Losira at MLG was what got me into SC2 and Terran. Watching MMA's multi-prong drop style slowly pull zergs apart made me realize the true depth of the tactical possibilities of SC2.
Life is a meaningless interruption to an otherwise peaceful non-existence.
mooncifer
Profile Joined October 2012
109 Posts
February 26 2016 07:29 GMT
#43
On February 26 2016 09:42 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:45 mooncifer wrote:

How can you not miss this guy?


That's an awesome story - thanks for sharing! Mind reposting this to MMA's fanclub? I'm sure the guys and gals over there would appreciate it!


Sure, go ahead. Thank you Bagration.
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Antonidas
Profile Joined August 2014
United States105 Posts
February 27 2016 17:15 GMT
#44
Go M M A!
as long as there is Starcraft, life is good *insert propaganda here*
BazookaBenji1
Profile Joined February 2016
15 Posts
March 01 2016 18:25 GMT
#45
stim marine dropship is OP
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
March 03 2016 08:11 GMT
#46
M . M . A .
M . M . A .
M . M . A .
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
STATICXTREME
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia15 Posts
April 01 2016 07:42 GMT
#47
fuck.. slayers_mma i totally miss him. my fav terran player of all time

slayers_boxer protege so to speak. what happened to him? can anyone give a short history lesson about him? i stopped watch sc2 after WoL due to work. but i loved his rivalry with IMMVP, MkP, oGsMC, jesus typing this gave me goosebumps

just came by the website for nostalgia sake and saw this
BorNeo27
Profile Joined January 2012
Malaysia6 Posts
April 19 2016 08:21 GMT
#48
Awesome video for an awesome player!

MMA we are gonna miss you!
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