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That looks like awful design, order should make sense going from lower day count to higher count to perma.
Also pressing it or not pressing it is so binary, it needs more counterplay.
Blizzard/DK please fix asap.
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
That looks like awful design, order should make sense going from lower day count to higher count to perma. Also pressing it or not pressing it is so binary, it needs more counterplay. Blizzard/DK please fix asap. | ||
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Savven
8 Posts
Let's just say avilo's case is a... difficult one. difficult really?... he is a assholey with all letters of the word. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On February 16 2016 01:38 Salteador Neo wrote: That looks like awful design, order should make sense going from lower day count to higher count to perma. Also pressing it or not pressing it is so binary, it needs more counterplay. Blizzard/DK please fix asap. terrible terrible damage | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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Cazimirbzh
334 Posts
@Laserist I was worried for a moment :p @Avilo hate speech Arent you famous for you hate speech toward blizzard and DK ?  high level gameplay This joke is so funny and makes me laugh every year | ||
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Ve5pa
United Kingdom252 Posts
As stated before viewbotting is a problem, not just in SC2, here is a link to video of a popular LoL streamer addressing the issue and how the community as a whole can put an end to it, for those that cba to watch it even covers people viewbotting others streams in an attempt to make them look complicit and therefore getting them banned. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On February 16 2016 01:57 Cazimirbzh wrote: I think with new wcs changes number 4 should be extended to top4 too. @Laserist I was worried for a moment :p @Avilo Arent you famous for you hate speech toward blizzard and DK ? This joke is so funny and makes me laugh every year Avilo doesn't have the lowest level of play on the featured list. So starting a cleansing with him would be wrong. It's so easy to point fingers. I'm amazed that you haven't read up on basic human psychology of stigmata and scapegoating. If not to purge it from your behavior, then at least to limit it. | ||
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suddendeathTV
Sweden388 Posts
We all know that Avilo breaks these rules quite a bit but since he brings viewership, who cares. Let him stream and let him be featured and it'll feel better for everyone who follow sc2 to see the streamlist and that people are watching sc2 instead of other titles. | ||
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Penev
28504 Posts
On February 16 2016 01:00 Mozdk wrote: Then deliver the proof. That's all I'm asking. I'm not saying he's not viewbotting. I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying, if you have that rule, you have to deliver proof. And I've never seen any. So saying "goodbye Winter" without presenting the proof is not furthering the plot. There was actual proof Winters stream was viewbotted. It prompted the hilarious "I.. I.. didn't know.." post from the man himself. It was never proven he did the viewbotting but his stream certainly had bots in it. Come to think of it, there was actually evidence him fucking up a bot subscription iirc. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On February 16 2016 02:08 Penev wrote: There was actual proof Winters stream was viewbotted. It prompted the hilarious "I.. I.. didn't know.." post from the man himself. It was never proven he did the viewbotting but his stream certainly had bots in it. Come to think of it, there was actually evidence him fucking up a bot subscription iirc. From what I've read, there was no proof. There was some stats that might indicate it, but nothing close to what you'd consider proof. I haven't read whatever you're refering to that Winter himself wrote. I expect Twitch will ban him if they have anything conclusive on him. And if not, they wont. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Penev
28504 Posts
On February 16 2016 02:16 Mozdk wrote: From what I've read, there was no proof. There was some stats that might indicate it, but nothing close to what you'd consider proof. I haven't read whatever you're refering to that Winter himself wrote. I expect Twitch will ban him if they have anything conclusive on him. And if not, they wont. Here's the Reddit thread about the fake donation. www.reddit.com Here's Winters initial response. pastebin.com And again, Winter admitted to the viewbotting himself. The evidence was apparently conclusive enough for him to do so. It made his stream temporary unfeatured on TL. Temporary, because Winter claimed he wasn't the one doing the viewbotting and it couldn't be proven who was actually doing it so TL gave him time to get rid of the bots etc. Edit: Just to make sure; I have nothing against Winter I just think there's a little more to the evidence than you do or maybe you didn't read everything I read. | ||
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Cazimirbzh
334 Posts
Avilo doesn't have the lowest level of play on the featured list. Are you giving me ammos ? ^^ Are you trying to say that avilo has a "high level gameplay" like he claims ? Do you the difference between good and high ? @lichter without the cooperation of twitch And is there somekind of a communication between you and them ? He also informed us immediately It tends to prove good faith or an evil mastermind. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On February 16 2016 02:40 Cazimirbzh wrote: @ Mozdk Are you giving me ammos ? ^^ Are you trying to say that avilo has a "high level gameplay" like he claims ? Do you the difference between good and high ? @lichter And is there somekind of a communication between you and them ? It tends to prove good faith or an evil mastermind. Masters is top 1 or 2% depending on the time of the season. That would be more than enough to call it high level in my book. If you own a different book that needs better than top 2%, then that's okay. I think my book is better though. As 98% of the community (at least) would be able to benefit from watching a masters' stream. | ||
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ProTech
United States438 Posts
If this isn't a clear cut sign of TL simply out for the high streaming numbers, I don't know what is. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
Whether playing vs Korean pros or randoms, I can only recall seeing Avilo refrain from such actions vs Livibee. It would be interesting if there were a thread requesting players who haven't been a "victim" of such actions, at the hands of Avilo, to come forth. How big could the list be? Everyone likes to see impressive feats. Personally, I think Avilo's victimizing of others ranks up there with Neeb beating Polt and Hydra. Just as impressive if not more so. At the end of the day, views are views, and not everyone has that kind of talent. It's really not easy to try to justify why your opponent was hacking, every game. I mean, really, that can't be an easy sell. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On February 16 2016 02:59 ProTech wrote: And here I remain, doing streaming right with no viewbots, the right numbers, and still not featured. Yet, I see someone with compelling evidence ( winter ) was view botting and returns to the featured status, and I still see people like avilo who fall under the category of general assholery. If this isn't a clear cut sign of TL simply out for the high streaming numbers, I don't know what is. You play 2v2 right? Maybe that's the answer. | ||
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0beroth
1 Post
On February 16 2016 02:59 ProTech wrote: And here I remain, doing streaming right with no viewbots, the right numbers, and still not featured. Yet, I see someone with compelling evidence ( winter ) was view botting and returns to the featured status, and I still see people like avilo who fall under the category of general assholery. If this isn't a clear cut sign of TL simply out for the high streaming numbers, I don't know what is. +1. As an occasional ProTech viewer I have to agree. If you're still not going to re-feature him you might as well add "Not be ProTech" to the list of requirements if you are trying to be honest. | ||
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Cazimirbzh
334 Posts
It's not my book. Top to bottom not bottom to top. That's how competition works. to benefit from watching a masters' stream You dont need to be master to stream an entertaining content. @ProTech Indeed, why not ? You play 2v2 right? Maybe that's the answer. I hope not. Combo armies are fun to watch. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 16 2016 01:38 Salteador Neo wrote: That looks like awful design, order should make sense going from lower day count to higher count to perma. Also pressing it or not pressing it is so binary, it needs more counterplay. Blizzard/DK please fix asap. should have a random button too to spice it up | ||
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