EPT[*] Proof of viewbotting or artificially padding one's viewing numbers
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Ve5pa
United Kingdom252 Posts
[*] Proof of viewbotting or artificially padding one's viewing numbers Goodbye Winter, hello spring I love this time of year. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On February 15 2016 22:39 Ve5pa wrote: Goodbye Winter, hello spring I love this time of year.What proof? If there was any proof he wouldn't be able to stream on twitch. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On February 15 2016 20:54 fealx wrote: Grounds for De-Featuring: 1. On-stream conduct determined unacceptable to Team Liquid. This includes acts of racism, homophobia, hate speech, and general assholery so avilo should not be featured Let's just say avilo's case is a... difficult one. | ||
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LuckyGnomTV
Russian Federation367 Posts
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HsDLTitich
Italy831 Posts
On February 15 2016 23:12 Mozdk wrote: What proof? If there was any proof he wouldn't be able to stream on twitch. Yeah I would trust Twitch words on it over a reddit hate mob anyway | ||
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2197 Posts
On February 15 2016 23:27 lichter wrote: Let's just say avilo's case is a... difficult one. Literally not a single game ends without him having called his opponent at least a "fucking idiot" on stream, and usually through in game chat bm as well. And he literally does not lose a single game without blaming it on game imbalance, stream cheating or hacking. I know that he has consistent viewership but seriously guys, I just can't see how supporting this behaviour is doing esports or SC2 any good whatsoever. | ||
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Ve5pa
United Kingdom252 Posts
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Fistro
45 Posts
On February 15 2016 19:00 kagamin wrote: Isn't "at least 100-150 constant viewers" the same as "at least 100 constant viewers?" What's the point of saying "at least 100-150" instead of just "at least 100?" Right here, some one who knows basic math. No pun intended. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On February 15 2016 23:27 lichter wrote: Let's just say avilo's case is a... difficult one. It's not, just state what excuse TL used. It's TL list and TL can give exceptions. It's in their(yours) forum "rules" anyway(6th Commandment IIRC(Respect Vets!  )Or don't and we will create some new! I can start with one - Avilo is Nazghul's spoiled younger brother! THERE! Conspiracy season is open  | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On February 16 2016 00:17 deacon.frost wrote: It's not, just state what excuse TL used. It's TL list and TL can give exceptions. It's in their(yours) forum "rules" anyway(6th Commandment IIRC(Respect Vets! )Or don't and we will create some new! I can start with one - Avilo is Nazghul's spoiled younger brother! THERE! Conspiracy season is open The funny thing is nobody likes Avilo but for some reason they don't have the balls to boot him lmao. | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On February 15 2016 23:12 Mozdk wrote: What proof? If there was any proof he wouldn't be able to stream on twitch. How many people ever get banned on Twitch for viewbotting? Especially if they make Twitch money... let's be real here, Twitch makes some very shady decisions and never explains them anyway when it comes to some dubious individuals breaking TOS but still being allowed to stream, because $$$. Blind trust in Twitch won't do you any good. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On February 16 2016 00:48 207aicila wrote: How many people ever get banned on Twitch for viewbotting? Especially if they make Twitch money... let's be real here, Twitch makes some very shady decisions and never explains them anyway when it comes to some dubious individuals breaking TOS but still being allowed to stream, because $$$. Blind trust in Twitch won't do you any good. Then deliver the proof. That's all I'm asking. I'm not saying he's not viewbotting. I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying, if you have that rule, you have to deliver proof. And I've never seen any. So saying "goodbye Winter" without presenting the proof is not furthering the plot. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On February 15 2016 20:54 fealx wrote: Grounds for De-Featuring: 1. On-stream conduct determined unacceptable to Team Liquid. This includes acts of racism, homophobia, hate speech, and general assholery so avilo should not be featured On February 15 2016 23:46 AlgeriaT wrote: Literally not a single game ends without him having called his opponent at least a "fucking idiot" on stream, and usually through in game chat bm as well. And he literally does not lose a single game without blaming it on game imbalance, stream cheating or hacking. I know that he has consistent viewership but seriously guys, I just can't see how supporting this behaviour is doing esports or SC2 any good whatsoever. Not worth replying because haters will hate regardless. But i'll reply anyways because i want to reply to 2nd guy: a) @ first guy you probably don't watch my stream as i do none of those things, nor would i ever. b) @ 2nd guy again, not true, no matter how much you or the lil hater squad wants it to be. If i did that every single game i would literally have no viewers. All of that is highly overexaggerated. To be fair to me, in the past there were a fuckton of players that were purposely sniping me to get reaction from me / make me rage etc. Any streamer that has a viewer base of 200+ viewer will tell you at some point they have been stream sniped. It happened to me a lot and got pretty annoying - i was always pretty up front about it i mean what can i do if i play 4 guys in a row that all are proxy 3 raxing me on a 4 player map with no scv scout (this type of shit has happened before -_-). I've learned from it though (and listened to feedback) and toned it down and don't let it bother me as much when it does happen, though i think at this point it's pretty much a meme that people will perpetuate regardless lol - i don't really often call out snipers/hackers so much tho sometimes i will joke about it on stream and the 2 people there that don't understand sarcasm will post about it. I'd like to think i'm a pretty good + consistent SC2 streamer that provides high level gameplay, unique style, and good commentary + humor to boot :D Not much else to say, hope you change your mind and give my stream another try :D edit: p.s. ik you may not personally like me but i really do not think it's a good idea to start witch hunting more community members (yes i consider myself part of the SC2 community). I mean if people wanna keep trying to drive every single personality / player out of SC2 then ok @_@ | ||
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BamBam
745 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On February 16 2016 01:21 lichter wrote: well this thread is going to be fun, i can already tell Did you use an evil laugh while typing this? :-) | ||
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BamBam
745 Posts
On February 16 2016 01:21 lichter wrote: well this thread is going to be fun, i can already tell As is tradition, impossible to go a year without a roast on the classical tropes. | ||
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Fistro
45 Posts
On February 16 2016 01:21 lichter wrote: well this thread is going to be fun, i can already tell I would love to see how does the "ban user" icon look like on a TL admin menu. Screenshot please ? ^_^ | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On February 16 2016 01:25 Fistro wrote: I would love to see how does the "ban user" icon look like on a TL admin menu. Screenshot please ? ^_^ ![[image loading]](/staff/lichter/misc/banbuttons.jpg) I was tempted to press it | ||
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