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You might want to add that there is going to only be 3 rounds of proleague this year from 4 of last year
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your Country52797 Posts
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Wait the real prize is that it starts next week? 
Glad that Proleague is finally here after the wait. Curious to see what LotV brings.
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Freecs trades for Life then not put him in the line up, did I miss something?
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Mute City2363 Posts
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Since when did SPL depend on Blizzard for maps? Last year's map pools were terribly uninteresting too
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dang this year's announcement is just disappointing relative to last year 
but it would be worse if afreeca didnt step up
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On January 29 2016 12:53 Arceus wrote:
Since when did SPL depend on Blizzard for maps? Last year's map pools were terribly uninteresting too
I wish Proleague was as ballsy with their map pool now as they were back during WoL and early HotS. I loved maps like Neo Planet S and King Sejong Station that eventually became staples in other map pools.
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Weird DRGLing isn't listed with the Freecs
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On January 29 2016 13:02 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Weird DRGLing isn't listed with the Freecs
i heard from proleague acquaintance, only 8 players can play for single round, DRGLing still remains with team, but he cannot playing for proleague
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So is Choya not retired?
RIP Korean scene.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50612 Posts
Bo5...meh
no new maps, meh.
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On January 29 2016 13:10 sc2ktspeed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:02 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Weird DRGLing isn't listed with the Freecs i heard from proleague acquaintance, only 8 players can play for single round, DRGLing still remains with team, but he cannot playing for proleague
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On January 29 2016 13:10 sc2ktspeed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:02 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Weird DRGLing isn't listed with the Freecs i heard from proleague acquaintance, only 8 players can play for single round, DRGLing still remains with team, but he cannot playing for proleague
are you KT.SpeeD?
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On January 29 2016 13:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:10 sc2ktspeed wrote:On January 29 2016 13:02 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Weird DRGLing isn't listed with the Freecs i heard from proleague acquaintance, only 8 players can play for single round, DRGLing still remains with team, but he cannot playing for proleague are you KT.SpeeD?
nope. just korean kt fan :D
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On January 29 2016 13:11 geokilla wrote:So is Choya not retired? RIP Korean scene.
He is listed as a player like I said so I guess not. Might never play though
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On January 29 2016 13:15 sc2ktspeed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:On January 29 2016 13:10 sc2ktspeed wrote:On January 29 2016 13:02 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Weird DRGLing isn't listed with the Freecs i heard from proleague acquaintance, only 8 players can play for single round, DRGLing still remains with team, but he cannot playing for proleague are you KT.SpeeD? nope. just korean kt fan :D
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On January 29 2016 13:10 sc2ktspeed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:02 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Weird DRGLing isn't listed with the Freecs i heard from proleague acquaintance, only 8 players can play for single round, DRGLing still remains with team, but he cannot playing for proleague
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Sadness
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 29 2016 13:11 geokilla wrote:So is Choya not retired? RIP Korean scene.
If we read between the lines.
Choya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MKP
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
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this is the time, MVP is going to fucking crush everyone's skull this season and it will be absolutely glorious. prepare yourselves to bathe in the blood of the vanquished, for our lord and savior GuMiGOD has come to smite the heathen.
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On January 29 2016 13:19 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:11 geokilla wrote:So is Choya not retired? RIP Korean scene. If we read between the lines. Choya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MKP
Dropping MKP to put himself on the roster is genius
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On January 29 2016 13:23 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:19 stuchiu wrote:On January 29 2016 13:11 geokilla wrote:So is Choya not retired? RIP Korean scene. If we read between the lines. Choya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MKP Dropping MKP to put himself on the roster is genius
sort of reminds me of the decision with Oz lol
at least FPL is happening right?
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On January 29 2016 13:23 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:19 stuchiu wrote:On January 29 2016 13:11 geokilla wrote:So is Choya not retired? RIP Korean scene. If we read between the lines. Choya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MKP Dropping MKP to put himself on the roster is genius
Truly the hero eSports needs
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Woot! 
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On January 29 2016 12:39 showstealer1829 wrote:
- Matches begin on Monday Feb 1.
What about FPL? That feels like it's too soon to get FPL started in time but I can't go any longer without my FPL. : [
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Need to get FPL started!
hypu!!!
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While I can't read it I know Korean LoL does (did?) a thing where they had a tournament for the B-teamers/subs of the various LCK teams, so I'm hoping its something within that umbrella. It certainly sounds like it could be from the very limited information one could gather without knowing Korean, aka just the "Challenger tournament" part
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On January 29 2016 13:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:While I can't read it I know Korean LoL does (did?) a thing where they had a tournament for the B-teamers/subs of the various LCK teams, so I'm hoping its something within that umbrella. It certainly sounds like it could be from the very limited information one could gather without knowing Korean, aka just the "Challenger tournament" part
That Korean LoL challenger tournament was probably based off of the Brood War version where amateurs could work their way up the tournament to get a progaming license. SC2 has been in sore need of fresh blood lately, so a similar challenger tournament could hopefully be good.
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Why 3 rounds only??? why????
I didn't expect Proleague to make a cut on content
But I guess we should be happy that we still have Proleague?
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I THINK (I used Google Translate and me guessing for this) that they are using the points system from the last 2 years for seeding into a special tournament at the end of the year before the main Playoffs where the teams that didn't win a round playoffs will play each other for the final spot in the main playoffs. Each team that won a round playoffs would be seeded into the main playoffs based on their points I assume. Could be completely wrong though XD.
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I don't know if I'll ever be convinced WCS 2016 is a good idea
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On January 29 2016 13:19 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:11 geokilla wrote:So is Choya not retired? RIP Korean scene. If we read between the lines. Choya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MKP
I dont even think we need to read between the lines to know this. MKP is awful.
Also super sad that along with less SSL/GSL we have less Proleague.
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On January 29 2016 14:18 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:19 stuchiu wrote:On January 29 2016 13:11 geokilla wrote:So is Choya not retired? RIP Korean scene. If we read between the lines. Choya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MKP I dont even think we need to read between the lines to know this. MKP is awful. Also super sad that along with less SSL/GSL we have less Proleague.
At least we don't have to wait too long for fricking PL! I dunno man, im trying here
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On January 29 2016 14:20 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 14:18 Phredxor wrote:On January 29 2016 13:19 stuchiu wrote:On January 29 2016 13:11 geokilla wrote:So is Choya not retired? RIP Korean scene. If we read between the lines. Choya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MKP I dont even think we need to read between the lines to know this. MKP is awful. Also super sad that along with less SSL/GSL we have less Proleague. At least we don't have to wait too long for fricking PL! I dunno man, im trying here
That's true. If they announced this but the start date was march or something that would have killed me.
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On January 29 2016 14:16 Cricketer12 wrote:I don't know if I'll ever be convinced WCS 2016 is a good idea
Well there's 2 parts:
1. Cutting KR down to 2 seasons
2. Region locking
I think everybody's in agreement that the first part is bad for everyone involved, but as for the second part, it is completely dependent on the organisers.
WCS region lock by itself isn't that big a deal - look at last year, when everyone was kind of convinced that wcs 2015 was a decent system. It's the fact that it comes at the cost of all the tournaments we've come to love that's the issue.
Basically, this is completely on blizzard / ESL / Dreamhack for having zero communication. If we end up getting a bunch of Global Events, that would be fine by me. I'd still prefer the 2013-2015 systems, but hey - it's a compromise I can accept.
Whether that will actually happen though is a different question
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On January 29 2016 14:16 Cricketer12 wrote:I don't know if I'll ever be convinced WCS 2016 is a good idea
It's really inorganic and awkward but the difference in skill between foreigners and Koreans kind of makes a BW-style separation of scenes necessary for foreigners to actually win stuff. I don't like it in theory but I think the foreign scene needs champions to survive in reality.
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SKT have no Sorry anymore
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3 round bo5?
Very disappointing...the game is losing a fan
I hope we'll have fpl at least..
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On January 29 2016 14:56 gdarky wrote:
SKT have no Sorry anymore
sorry is same as marinking, he still remains with t1, but not for 1st round
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Ugh 7 team 
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Really excited to see SpeeD play this Proleague. He looked pretty good in his Code A match and had a confident demeanour in the winner interview.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
i'm doing FPL right now it is a headache trying to think about having to balance fewer games and less players
more than likely i'll stick with a similar method for weighing people and then just work on it as the season progresses
should be out in a few hours WAIT FOR IT
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man they couldnt get another team if they tried, huh? kroean scene dying faster than meek mills career
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And that number would be even lower if SSL stuck to single-elim .
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On January 29 2016 15:26 lichter wrote:
i'm doing FPL right now it is a headache trying to think about having to balance fewer games and less players
more than likely i'll stick with a similar method for weighing people and then just work on it as the season progresses
should be out in a few hours WAIT FOR IT
You are a god thanks
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On January 29 2016 15:26 lichter wrote:
i'm doing FPL right now it is a headache trying to think about having to balance fewer games and less players
more than likely i'll stick with a similar method for weighing people and then just work on it as the season progresses
should be out in a few hours WAIT FOR IT
Yes
YESSSSSSS
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On January 29 2016 15:26 lichter wrote:
i'm doing FPL right now it is a headache trying to think about having to balance fewer games and less players
more than likely i'll stick with a similar method for weighing people and then just work on it as the season progresses
should be out in a few hours WAIT FOR IT
with baited breath
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On January 29 2016 15:26 lichter wrote:
i'm doing FPL right now it is a headache trying to think about having to balance fewer games and less players
more than likely i'll stick with a similar method for weighing people and then just work on it as the season progresses
should be out in a few hours WAIT FOR IT
Champion. No Flash at 8 points to ruin my FPL like the last few times, I might do well!
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Most of the WCS changes are fine, except the 4 seasons is absolutely going to decay the scene if there are no Korean Cups that show up in between.
They needed to have start planning having 6 seasons in Korea, and then they can do whatever half-baked stuff they want.
This is probably going to happen, but what I want more than anything for SC2, is them digging deep and finding a sponsor to do something in between GSL/SSL 1 and , like a GSL/SSL that isnt part of the Blizzcon/WCS system.
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On January 29 2016 15:09 sc2ktspeed wrote:sorry is same as marinking, he still remains with t1, but not for 1st round
What's the reason for not including those players for proleague?
Is there a cap for number of players? (can't see other reason)
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On January 29 2016 15:46 AKAvg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 15:09 sc2ktspeed wrote:On January 29 2016 14:56 gdarky wrote:
SKT have no Sorry anymore sorry is same as marinking, he still remains with t1, but not for 1st round What's the reason for not including those players for proleague? Is there a cap for number of players? (can't see other reason)
Seems like it's limited to 8 players, if this is correct
On January 29 2016 13:10 sc2ktspeed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 13:02 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Weird DRGLing isn't listed with the Freecs i heard from proleague acquaintance, only 8 players can play for single round, DRGLing still remains with team, but he cannot playing for proleague
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At this rate, 2 years from now and we will hear that it is cancelled...
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On January 29 2016 15:26 lichter wrote:
i'm doing FPL right now it is a headache trying to think about having to balance fewer games and less players
more than likely i'll stick with a similar method for weighing people and then just work on it as the season progresses
should be out in a few hours WAIT FOR IT
i <3 you litcher
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anyone working on translating the matchups for round 1? it was in wolf's twitter post
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Kinda disappointing that there will be only three Rounds but atleast Proleague is finally back. And the best thing is it starts next week.
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When does the season end?
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Looks like max squad this year is 8, makes sense it is better. Now people need to move around as Jin Air and CJ only have a 6 squad list lol. Unfair if DRGling and MKP cant play due to roster issues.
Also can i have a schedule please?
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Wouldn't have thought that the spl announcement would be that unhype :/
Well better than nothing i guess
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On January 29 2016 17:34 Pandemona wrote:
Looks like max squad this year is 8, makes sense it is better. Now people need to move around as Jin Air and CJ only have a 6 squad list lol. Unfair if DRGling and MKP cant play due to roster issues.
Also can i have a schedule please?
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lNP9zWi.png)
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Thanks, chinese new year the reason for the gap from 1st feb - 15th?
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Wait why I thought CJ had two rookie players? CJ's lineup looks pretty weak with only 6 players ><
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Oh new start time of 09:00 GMT (+00:00) btw
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FPL HYPE!!!!! lichter you are a hero
Edit: And Choya over MKP is hilarious.
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On January 29 2016 17:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Wait why I thought CJ had two rookie players? CJ's lineup looks pretty weak with only 6 players ><
Yeah, they had two rookie players. Atleast they participated in the GSL qualifiers with a CJ Entus id. One of them was called NightMare and played Protoss but I can't remember the other one. No idea what happened to them.
Samsung only with seven players. What about Guilty?
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Ugh, while I am glad Proleague is starting very soon. Still bummed that it's only 3 rounds, still bo5, and the obvious 7 teams. I was hoping KESPA can pull a miraculous new 8th team out of their ass, and maybe it could have happened if Sbenu decided to stick with their SC2 team.
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On January 29 2016 18:08 yoshi245 wrote:
Ugh, while I am glad Proleague is starting very soon. Still bummed that it's only 3 rounds, still bo5, and the obvious 7 teams. I was hoping KESPA can pull a miraculous new 8th team out of their ass, and maybe it could have happened if Sbenu decided to stick with their SC2 team.
Doubt it could have happened at this point. If Sbenu stuck around there wouldn't have been a team for Afreeca to jump in on. Would take some time to organize and field a new competitive team I imagine.
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Pretty much what I expected.
Although I'm surprised that they didn't go back to the 2014 schedule and move the games to sat/sun
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bo5 would've been great, if it was bo5 of bo3's..
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Thank you so much Lichter! Cant wait for PL to get on its way
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It is a weird decision to only allow eight players per team. I feel sorry for the players who were cut. Also Patience was announced to play for Team MVP, but this rule seems to be the reason he isn't in the roster.
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see. mk still remains with the team he will come back round 2
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Agh, I hate that they're keeping best of fives. There are going to be so many short, short days and it's going to be so frustrating.
Couple that with starting an hour earlier.. Man, I've been waking up at 3 a.m. for Korean Starcraft for like four years now. Stop making it even more difficult on me. D:
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Only 3 Rounds.
Only Bo5
Hmm meeeh, hoped for much better news.
But at least ProLeague is back!
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Quality is not quantity, last years had plenty of pointless games (the usual "will prime win a map this week?") and some disapinting ones too.
If SPL manages to to make all games good and fun to watch, maybe it'll get more hype and viewers in then end.
Anyways, 2016 is a damn crucial year for sc2, I'm crossing my fingers.
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So did any coach or team captain say something interesting?
Actually forget that I asked. Good games will be shown and the best possible effort will be put in I guess.
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On January 29 2016 18:05 JonnySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 17:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Wait why I thought CJ had two rookie players? CJ's lineup looks pretty weak with only 6 players >< Yeah, they had two rookie players. Atleast they participated in the GSL qualifiers with a CJ Entus id. One of them was called NightMare and played Protoss but I can't remember the other one. No idea what happened to them. Samsung only with seven players. What about Guilty?
Guilty isn't with Samsung any more He played teamless in the qualifiers
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On January 29 2016 18:05 JonnySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 17:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Wait why I thought CJ had two rookie players? CJ's lineup looks pretty weak with only 6 players >< Yeah, they had two rookie players. Atleast they participated in the GSL qualifiers with a CJ Entus id. One of them was called NightMare and played Protoss but I can't remember the other one. No idea what happened to them.
That was false information, those rookies were never confirmed to be on CJ.
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what's the format for playoffs and finals? don't tell its bo5 lol. it's gotta be bo7 here right?
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On January 29 2016 21:10 Gwavajuice wrote:
Quality is not quantity, last years had plenty of pointless games (the usual "will prime win a map this week?") and some disapinting ones too.
If SPL manages to to make all games good and fun to watch, maybe it'll get more hype and viewers in then end.
Anyways, 2016 is a damn crucial year for sc2, I'm crossing my fingers.
Well put. While an even number of teams is ideal for the format, having consistently high caliber games is far more important. Prime (and Startale R2) last season really lowered the bar and cheapened the experience of Proleague. While it would still be great if a quality 8th team could be added after R1, having seven competitive teams is better than before (although I have my doubts about Afreeca in light of Life, and MVP being able to stay close).
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On January 30 2016 02:33 ShAd_1337 wrote:
what's the format for playoffs and finals? don't tell its bo5 lol. it's gotta be bo7 here right?
The same as the last two seasons. Best of 7 All Kill with the grand final being best of 7 Proleague style
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On January 29 2016 21:10 Clonester wrote:
Only 3 Rounds.
Only Bo5
Hmm meeeh, hoped for much better news.
But at least ProLeague is back!
Did someone really expect a Bo7 format?
It's not like the SC2 scene is that healthy to support such a format. I mean, I'm really not salty inany way, but the quality of the games would decrease drastically if they turned to a Bo7 format.
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7 teams
Bo5
3 Rounds
Pretty disappointing tbh fam.
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On January 30 2016 01:12 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:05 JonnySC2 wrote:On January 29 2016 17:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Wait why I thought CJ had two rookie players? CJ's lineup looks pretty weak with only 6 players >< Yeah, they had two rookie players. Atleast they participated in the GSL qualifiers with a CJ Entus id. One of them was called NightMare and played Protoss but I can't remember the other one. No idea what happened to them. That was false information, those rookies were never confirmed to be on CJ.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up
On January 30 2016 01:09 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:05 JonnySC2 wrote:On January 29 2016 17:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Wait why I thought CJ had two rookie players? CJ's lineup looks pretty weak with only 6 players >< Yeah, they had two rookie players. Atleast they participated in the GSL qualifiers with a CJ Entus id. One of them was called NightMare and played Protoss but I can't remember the other one. No idea what happened to them. Samsung only with seven players. What about Guilty? Guilty isn't with Samsung any more He played teamless in the qualifiers
That is disappointing. He showed some potential in Hots and I hoped he might have a breakout year with LotV.
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hi all
im just wondering what the rules are on this tournament or how i can find them, on the wiki page we have all the info about the results and machups but no info on how they are made (usually turnaments on the wikki have a format section explaining how the tournament will go).
like i see during round robin each team plays another each week like in a football championship, but how are the maps and how players chosen for each match.
also in the playoffs i see players winning and playing again, so like here its knock out system untill all players from the other team are eliminated.
where can i find the info on all this?
maybe a noob question but i really enjoy the matches of this league and would like to fully understand the format to better understand the plays.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_Proleague
many thanks
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On May 20 2016 00:56 XiZeL wrote:
like i see during round robin each team plays another each week like in a football championship, but how are the maps and how players chosen for each match.
The teams are given the map order in advance and they decide who plays on what map. They don't know what the other team has decided. After both teams have sent in their line ups the match ups are made public.
On May 20 2016 00:56 XiZeL wrote:
also in the playoffs i see players winning and playing again, so like here its knock out system untill all players from the other team are eliminated.
Yes, the playoffs have a different format. Winner stays on, first team to win 4 games wins.
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On May 20 2016 00:56 XiZeL wrote:hi all im just wondering what the rules are on this tournament or how i can find them, on the wiki page we have all the info about the results and machups but no info on how they are made (usually turnaments on the wikki have a format section explaining how the tournament will go). like i see during round robin each team plays another each week like in a football championship, but how are the maps and how players chosen for each match. also in the playoffs i see players winning and playing again, so like here its knock out system untill all players from the other team are eliminated. where can i find the info on all this? maybe a noob question but i really enjoy the matches of this league and would like to fully understand the format to better understand the plays. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_Proleaguemany thanks
Your question was already answered in the previous thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/509311-proleague-round-2-playoffs-finals-starters?page=3#43
Do not just go around bumping old threads because you want your questions answered quicker. Be more patient than that. If you do this again, I will have to take mod action.
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