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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 28 2016 14:11 GMT
#121
On January 28 2016 23:08 RoomOfMush wrote:
Do you guys think this is better or worse then pulling a Sonic?


Much much much worse
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 28 2016 14:12 GMT
#122
On January 28 2016 23:10 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 22:19 Boucot wrote:
My uncle is a nigerian prince, he told me he has a lot of money and is considering sponsoring an esport team !


So the name of the team have to be MOUGOU (i hope you know your mozinor)

I do not.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 14:23:03
January 28 2016 14:19 GMT
#123
On January 28 2016 23:12 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 23:10 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 28 2016 22:19 Boucot wrote:
My uncle is a nigerian prince, he told me he has a lot of money and is considering sponsoring an esport team !


So the name of the team have to be MOUGOU (i hope you know your mozinor)

I do not.


Go watch it :p on dailymotion, just find mozinor "Le mougou" (or "mugu"). It's pretty stupid and funny. It's basicly mozinor replying and talking to your uncle :p

EDIT : video in spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +


Warning : it's pretty stupid :p
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Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore910 Posts
January 28 2016 14:24 GMT
#124
Firstly, i feel bad for all the pro gamers concerned. Major, Welmu, Desrow...

But i feel like all Pro Gamers should learn something from all this short-lived team's incidents by now.

SC2 is not going to be the ideal scene to throw money in. It just doesn't make sense from a business point of view. It's a relatively small scene especially when you compare it to the other hugely popular games in Esports like CS:GO and DOTA2 or LOL.

If i had the money and think Esports has a bright future, why shouldn't i be throwing money into the more popular games?

So if somebody comes forward with an idea of starting a new SC2 team, check the freaking finances first. Is the money guaranteed. You cannot just trust the person just because he seems or sounds trustworthy ( as stated by desrow in his vlog) Look i have seen children who can lie with a totally innocent look and be oscar-worthy. So don't talk about adults.





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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 28 2016 14:38 GMT
#125
New world record?
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 28 2016 14:43 GMT
#126
On January 28 2016 23:24 Kaizor wrote:
Firstly, i feel bad for all the pro gamers concerned. Major, Welmu, Desrow...

But i feel like all Pro Gamers should learn something from all this short-lived team's incidents by now.

SC2 is not going to be the ideal scene to throw money in. It just doesn't make sense from a business point of view. It's a relatively small scene especially when you compare it to the other hugely popular games in Esports like CS:GO and DOTA2 or LOL.

If i had the money and think Esports has a bright future, why shouldn't i be throwing money into the more popular games?

So if somebody comes forward with an idea of starting a new SC2 team, check the freaking finances first. Is the money guaranteed. You cannot just trust the person just because he seems or sounds trustworthy ( as stated by desrow in his vlog) Look i have seen children who can lie with a totally innocent look and be oscar-worthy. So don't talk about adults.






Especially desRow and Welmu who got already screwed by Eclypsia.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
January 28 2016 15:20 GMT
#127
I think there is only one thing I can do at this point as both an SC2 fan and a wrestling fan on this news.

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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
January 28 2016 15:23 GMT
#128
So who was on the team? Lol
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
January 28 2016 15:26 GMT
#129
On January 29 2016 00:23 geokilla wrote:
So who was on the team? Lol

Among others Welmu and Major.
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SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 15:41:00
January 28 2016 15:40 GMT
#130
I don't get people that blame the players. They are not totally stupid, and I believe that they were not blind about the risks.
Still, you have the chance of receiving support and a salary, even if it seems a bit shady/unlikely to happen...you just say no? Well, obviously you say yes. 1% chance of having something is better than 100% chance of having nothing.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 28 2016 15:46 GMT
#131
This is what happens when you sign Major. Either he leaves, or the team does.
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Kofuku
Profile Joined January 2014
31 Posts
January 28 2016 15:52 GMT
#132
If you're a player who has no other team offers on the horizon, then I can see why you'd join even an unstable or unproven team. At worst, you probably think you can get a few paychecks and travel reimbursements before the team goes under, during which time you wouldn't have been getting other money from another team anyway. At least Apocalypse's collapse was quick so that the players aren't wasting more time. From now on sketchy teams should be demanded to keep one month's worth of a player's salary in a separate trust account that players, and only players, can draw from if the teams are late on payments

Also, this contract here (http://sc2online.com/forum/forum/news/general-news/506-new-team-apocalypse-esports-to-disband-%E2%80%8Bmanagement-considering-legal-action-against-the-teams-financier) is not so well done at all to protect the players I hope this isn't suggestive of what the standard is in western SC2 teams...
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
January 28 2016 15:56 GMT
#133
Lol? Lol.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 16:17:14
January 28 2016 16:15 GMT
#134
they shoulda used this as their logo.

[image loading]

turns out these guys were about as legit as the Gulf of T....
o never mind.

On January 29 2016 00:40 SChlafmann wrote:
I don't get people that blame the players. They are not totally stupid, and I believe that they were not blind about the risks.
Still, you have the chance of receiving support and a salary, even if it seems a bit shady/unlikely to happen...you just say no? Well, obviously you say yes. 1% chance of having something is better than 100% chance of having nothing.


your reputation as a savvy veteran of eSports business affairs takes a hit. if that has zero value to the player...
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ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 16:47:59
January 28 2016 16:41 GMT
#135
I don't understand why people think it is okay to come into this thread and say, "I told you so". To those of you that are, I would say that you've probably been negative about every team that forms, and nobody thinks that you are smart or better than the players because you think you wouldn't have fallen for this scam after it happens.There are always people talking about how they saw everything coming. No one is impressed.
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KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
January 28 2016 16:44 GMT
#136
welp... did we expect anything different?
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 28 2016 16:50 GMT
#137
On January 28 2016 18:58 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 18:30 Major wrote:
On January 28 2016 18:25 OtherWorld wrote:
Ok, my respect for the players involved went down. How can you play a game based on decision making an take such shitty career decisions?

cause im a magician and i can know how everyone will act? lol its like u getting a job and next day u get fired cause the guys went bankrupt. my respect goes down for u aswell how is it my fault lol. i cant predict how someone gonna act. so losing respect for players is just silly.


You do a background check when you go into an interview for a job. Dunno if you did and it tunred out nothing but you DO make a bg check for real work. At least i do.


No need for a background check. This wouldn't even pass a basic sanity check.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
January 28 2016 17:00 GMT
#138
On the up side we can now all with confidence say that we/TL/esport/the world/sc2 is post-apocalyptic!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 28 2016 17:01 GMT
#139
On January 29 2016 01:41 ZackAttack wrote:
I don't understand why people think it is okay to come into this thread and say, "I told you so". To those of you that are, I would say that you've probably been negative about every team that forms, and nobody thinks that you are smart or better than the players because you think you wouldn't have fallen for this scam after it happens.There are always people talking about how they saw everything coming. No one is impressed.


The owner was in some major shit as far as i know. Match-fixing kind of shit. That's why people are bashing (at least i think)
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
January 28 2016 17:10 GMT
#140
On January 28 2016 23:11 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 23:08 RoomOfMush wrote:
Do you guys think this is better or worse then pulling a Sonic?


Much much much worse

ehhhh Sonic could go to jail and has screwed over far more people, not just in esports.
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