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The Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 2 - Page 8

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 22:10:02
January 04 2016 21:57 GMT
#141
The more I look at it, the more I think Mana should be higher. 6 premier tournament finals is pretty crazy for a foreigner, even if most of them didn't have that many Koreans in it, and the fact that he remains a pretty good player to this day is impressive. I feel like he's kind of robbed at 8th.
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Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
January 04 2016 22:15 GMT
#142
Does anyone else agree that Huk will be #2? Huk on paper just has so much more going for him in my opinion. The only thing Naniwa seems to have over him is simply this 'aura' of that he was one bad ass player that nearly everyone feared playing but at the end of the day his results don't speak as loudly as Huk's and certainly not as loudly as Stephano's. Also, I don't think we can entirely discount Huk's career after his era of dominance, he continues to be a relevant player in the foreign scene to this day and still manages to take down players many wouldn't expect him to.
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
January 04 2016 22:40 GMT
#143
Did we consider WhiteRa, if so, is he 20+ or 20-? I miss the special tactics.
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DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
January 04 2016 22:50 GMT
#144
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!
Splynn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States225 Posts
January 04 2016 22:54 GMT
#145
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 04 2016 22:59 GMT
#146
LucifroN is 16th, it's in the justification for Bunny being 15th.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3413 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-04 23:16:05
January 04 2016 23:14 GMT
#147
On January 05 2016 06:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
The more I look at it, the more I think Mana should be higher. 6 premier tournament finals is pretty crazy for a foreigner, even if most of them didn't have that many Koreans in it, and the fact that he remains a pretty good player to this day is impressive. I feel like he's kind of robbed at 8th.

Agreed, he has a second place finish in 2010 and one in 2015 and he never really dropped off the map at any one point within this timeframe. When it comes to foreign play.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
January 04 2016 23:54 GMT
#148
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 05 2016 00:06 GMT
#149
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.

Hmmm... seeing how many people in this thread are doing just that, you might be wrong.
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A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-05 00:11:55
January 05 2016 00:11 GMT
#150
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.


Isn't that the korean warcraft 3 player?

I don't even know any SC2 player by that name.

HuK had a very good run with Dreamhack and Homestory Cup win back to back over koreans and I can honestly say that although I don't even like him.
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/3949980/1/llllllllllll/
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3413 Posts
January 05 2016 00:18 GMT
#151
On January 05 2016 09:11 A_needle_jog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.


Isn't that the korean warcraft 3 player?

I don't even know any SC2 player by that name.

HuK had a very good run with Dreamhack and Homestory Cup win back to back over koreans and I can honestly say that although I don't even like him.

You might be thinking of Lucifer? although Lucifron did play Warcraft 3.
Lucifer = Korean Undead, Lucifron = Spanish Orc.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
January 05 2016 00:19 GMT
#152
On January 05 2016 09:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.

Hmmm... seeing how many people in this thread are doing just that, you might be wrong.

Not looking to pick a fight with anyone or offending people, but you might just be underestimating how many people here have no clue
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12899 Posts
January 05 2016 00:31 GMT
#153
LucifroN is probably more talented but hasn't had the results and he is 16th already, which is a decent showing as 4th best terran in the ranking.
WriterMaru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 05 2016 00:38 GMT
#154
On January 05 2016 09:19 DonDomingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 09:06 The_Templar wrote:
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.

Hmmm... seeing how many people in this thread are doing just that, you might be wrong.

Not looking to pick a fight with anyone or offending people, but you might just be underestimating how many people here have no clue


This ranking is based on results, and no matter how good you might think LucifroN is, his results in tournaments are worse than HuK's by a landslide.
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
January 05 2016 00:43 GMT
#155
On January 05 2016 09:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 09:19 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:06 The_Templar wrote:
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.

Hmmm... seeing how many people in this thread are doing just that, you might be wrong.

Not looking to pick a fight with anyone or offending people, but you might just be underestimating how many people here have no clue


This ranking is based on results, and no matter how good you might think LucifroN is, his results in tournaments are worse than HuK's by a landslide.

Silly me, thinking a thread called "The Greatest Foreigners of All Time" would be about who are the greatest foreigners of all time and not who has won most.

Not that I blame people for judging by results. If you don't understand the game very well, how can you be expected to be able to tell who's the better player? Much easier to judge by results.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
January 05 2016 00:57 GMT
#156
On January 05 2016 09:11 A_needle_jog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.


Isn't that the korean warcraft 3 player?

I don't even know any SC2 player by that name.

HuK had a very good run with Dreamhack and Homestory Cup win back to back over koreans and I can honestly say that although I don't even like him.


This guy right here. He was pretty good. Possibly even the best foreigner at his peak. Then again same is true for HuK so...
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Payson
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States394 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-05 00:59:04
January 05 2016 00:57 GMT
#157
On January 05 2016 09:43 DonDomingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 09:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:19 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:06 The_Templar wrote:
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.

Hmmm... seeing how many people in this thread are doing just that, you might be wrong.

Not looking to pick a fight with anyone or offending people, but you might just be underestimating how many people here have no clue


This ranking is based on results, and no matter how good you might think LucifroN is, his results in tournaments are worse than HuK's by a landslide.

Silly me, thinking a thread called "The Greatest Foreigners of All Time" would be about who are the greatest foreigners of all time and not who has won most.

Not that I blame people for judging by results. If you don't understand the game very well, how can you be expected to be able to tell who's the better player? Much easier to judge by results.


Right, because HuK managed to participate in the GSL 11 times and win major tournaments while LucifroN.....?

HuK has been around since the beginning and shown incredible results from 2010 - 2015. He's been consistent and has shown an amazing work ethic in Starcraft II that many foreigners have not shown, and his results clearly show he has been a Top 5 foreigner. And it's not even his results that show he is a better player than LucifroN, he just clearly his and has been a feared foreigner for any player during his tenure playing Starcraft.

I feel like you are just trying to pick a fight with people.
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-05 01:00:57
January 05 2016 00:59 GMT
#158
Loved the article on Idra! (but no hallucination joke?) It would be cool if you could reference the specific games with hyperlinks in your text, it would be so nice to rewatch those games.
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
January 05 2016 01:01 GMT
#159
On January 05 2016 09:57 Payson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 09:43 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:19 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:06 The_Templar wrote:
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.

Hmmm... seeing how many people in this thread are doing just that, you might be wrong.

Not looking to pick a fight with anyone or offending people, but you might just be underestimating how many people here have no clue


This ranking is based on results, and no matter how good you might think LucifroN is, his results in tournaments are worse than HuK's by a landslide.

Silly me, thinking a thread called "The Greatest Foreigners of All Time" would be about who are the greatest foreigners of all time and not who has won most.

Not that I blame people for judging by results. If you don't understand the game very well, how can you be expected to be able to tell who's the better player? Much easier to judge by results.


Right, because HuK managed to participate in the GSL 11 times and win major tournaments while LucifroN.....?

HuK has been around since the beginning and shown incredible results from 2010 - 2015. He's been consistent and has shown an amazing work ethic in Starcraft II that many foreigners have not shown, and his results clearly show he has been a Top 5 foreigner.

I feel like you are just trying to pick a fight with people.

I'm not looking to pick a fight with people hence why I won't post anymore here after this post. Let's agree to disagree? Maybe we can agree that there's no requirement (not even being somewhat decent at Starcraft like being in gm league) to sign up at this site and post whatever?

Anyway, good evening. Im going to bed.
Payson
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States394 Posts
January 05 2016 01:09 GMT
#160
On January 05 2016 10:01 DonDomingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 09:57 Payson wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:43 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:19 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 09:06 The_Templar wrote:
On January 05 2016 08:54 DonDomingo wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:54 Splynn wrote:
On January 05 2016 07:50 DonDomingo wrote:
It's pretty obvious who remain:

LucifroN, Stephano, NaNiwa, Snute & Scarlett.

Question is in which order!


If that is true then Huk is not in the top 15... And that is just wrong. I don't think Lucifron makes the cut here. He was really good, but doesn't quite have the results.

No-one in their right mind who isn't trolling who knows even just a little about Starcrafrt would rate Huk over LucifroN.

Hmmm... seeing how many people in this thread are doing just that, you might be wrong.

Not looking to pick a fight with anyone or offending people, but you might just be underestimating how many people here have no clue


This ranking is based on results, and no matter how good you might think LucifroN is, his results in tournaments are worse than HuK's by a landslide.

Silly me, thinking a thread called "The Greatest Foreigners of All Time" would be about who are the greatest foreigners of all time and not who has won most.

Not that I blame people for judging by results. If you don't understand the game very well, how can you be expected to be able to tell who's the better player? Much easier to judge by results.


Right, because HuK managed to participate in the GSL 11 times and win major tournaments while LucifroN.....?

HuK has been around since the beginning and shown incredible results from 2010 - 2015. He's been consistent and has shown an amazing work ethic in Starcraft II that many foreigners have not shown, and his results clearly show he has been a Top 5 foreigner.

I feel like you are just trying to pick a fight with people.

I'm not looking to pick a fight with people hence why I won't post anymore here after this post. Let's agree to disagree? Maybe we can agree that there's no requirement (not even being somewhat decent at Starcraft like being in gm league) to sign up at this site and post whatever?

Anyway, good evening. Im going to bed.


All good! Don't sweat! I just feel like there is a general consensus among many readers here that HuK clearly deserves a Top 5 nod on this piece. There is no doubt that LucifroN was an incredible Terran during his prime and probably should have been in this Top 15 ranking somewhere. I just feel he was not a Top 5 foreigner considering the last five players we have yet to see announced (and who we assume will place).
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