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On December 12 2015 10:01 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2015 09:58 Matte3D wrote: Thought the 2015 format were good, why change it. Sucks if it's true and all respect to Take for rejecting this idea. For sure. If this all turns out to be true, I'll be tuning in for as much of HSC as I can on principle.
Take knows where the viewership comes from - the Kr players.
Alot of Basetrade viewers also come in to see Parting last year.
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On December 12 2015 10:03 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2015 08:36 Popkiller wrote: "In addition, at Blizzcon, the WCS Global players and WCS Circuit players will be segregated into their own half-brackets..." Didn't read from page 3 onwards but this has to be a joke. This has to be a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it is =P
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On December 12 2015 10:03 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2015 08:36 Popkiller wrote: "In addition, at Blizzcon, the WCS Global players and WCS Circuit players will be segregated into their own half-brackets..." Didn't read from page 3 onwards but this has to be a joke. This has to be a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOA, that would be so terrible haha think about how bad that finals would most likely be just checked to make sure it wasn't actually in the article lol, phew
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I love this idea except WCS Premier removal. Foreign scene should be protected from Korean. This is the attitude Riot is doing. I think this is right.
But WCS Premier is gone... this is not good.We will lose huge exprosure of this game...
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Let's just wait and see what happens.
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On December 12 2015 10:04 masterrn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2015 10:01 pure.Wasted wrote:On December 12 2015 09:58 Matte3D wrote: Thought the 2015 format were good, why change it. Sucks if it's true and all respect to Take for rejecting this idea. For sure. If this all turns out to be true, I'll be tuning in for as much of HSC as I can on principle. Take knows where the viewership comes from - the Kr players. Alot of Basetrade viewers also come in to see Parting last year.
Yeah it's just really unfortunate how the SSL qualifiers screwed everything up this time.
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Also if they don't give even tournaments to NA and EU then the NA scene will die harder than it already is.
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Blizzard has a tough job here.
The foreign scene is dead and they need to do something to help the grassroots so new talents develop.
So people shitting on Blizzard should STFU.
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Blizzard might as well make Blizzcon foreigners-only, because you know that even if there are 8 foreigners in the RO16 in Blizzcon, they will all get rolled right away by Kespa.
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On December 12 2015 10:04 masterrn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2015 10:01 pure.Wasted wrote:On December 12 2015 09:58 Matte3D wrote: Thought the 2015 format were good, why change it. Sucks if it's true and all respect to Take for rejecting this idea. For sure. If this all turns out to be true, I'll be tuning in for as much of HSC as I can on principle. Take knows where the viewership comes from - the Kr players. Alot of Basetrade viewers also come in to see Parting last year.
I'm pretty sure I could count the number of times where having more Koreans at a post 2012 foreign event increased viewership on one hand and I don't have any fingers. LOL
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How is it that Richard Lewis ended up being a columnist for Breitbart.
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On December 12 2015 10:10 Highways wrote: Blizzard has a tough job here.
The foreign scene is dead and they need to do something to help the grassroots so new talents develop.
So people shitting on Blizzard should STFU.
And how does it help to grassroot new talents when you cancel the Tournament, that gave most of its money not to the winner, but to all players? Even Ro64 got 2000$. Now you will have 10 weekenders, where the first player will win 35-40% of the prizepool and under Ro8 nothing but cents will be left. This is the complete opposite of "help the grassroots so new talents develop". It is killing possibilities for new talents and just giving money for developed players in the foreign scene. Most likely Hydra, Polt and Jaedong. Lol
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Totally devalues the WCS final because you now have 8 foreigners competing in it who would never ever had a chance to qualify under the old system
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What will be the new WCS Global structure? Does it only include GSL and SSL? What about WCS Premiere and lower ranks of WCS? Despite my confusion over the details, let me demonstrate one possibility. The NEW WCS Global consists of GSL, SSL, and the 2015 WCS Global entirely, and the WCS Circuit incorporates all the tournaments. Few things are predictable: 1) No Proleague KR players will be present in WCS Circuit events, unless they are BOTH PL players and valid visa holders; 2) the WCS Circuit will be highly localized - the majority of players will be either citizens in those regions or valid visa holders.Consider the number of pro/semi-players and their nationalities, is it really practical from these guys to apply for multi-national visas just to play in a tournament for WCS points? For players like Rain, PartinG, FanTaSy and others, can they even play any WCS games to earn points? If it is to be true, then Blizzard is over-compensating for the globalization of SC2. The new rules sacrifice fairness, which is a basic rule in any sports, to promote false "variety". This variety is false due to the discriminating policies imposed by the authority. Is this what a healthy, 21st-century sport really need? I'm still waiting for official detailed statements from Blizzard and other e-sport organizer. I hope Blizzard is at least a little more than being this shortsighted so that it won't ruin SC2 e-sport.
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On December 12 2015 10:16 RevTiberius wrote: Totally devalues the WCS final because you now have 8 foreigners competing in it who would never ever had a chance to qualify under the old system
Wat!? WCS finals would be waaaaaaay more exciting. Its an east/west showdown we'll have been waiting for all year long. nothing could be more hype than that. :D
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"it is reported"
"Breitbart has learned"
No real sources cited, and it's BREITBART guys, the Right Wing site that supports climate change deniers...
I'd wait for real news.
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On December 12 2015 09:25 Matte3D wrote: Just don't ban koreans from events like DH and IEM pls. :'( Exactly. Do with WCS whatever you want, cancel it, extend it, lock it, unlock it ... just do not destroy the reason why we watch IEM and other good tournaments! Let's hope, these are just rumors! Otherwise, we would have only the weekday noons to watch proleague and the real tournaments in Korea ...
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On December 12 2015 10:10 Highways wrote: Blizzard has a tough job here.
The foreign scene is dead and they need to do something to help the grassroots so new talents develop.
So people shitting on Blizzard should STFU. The foreign scene in HotS was at its most competitive point when foreigners could play regularly (on ladder) against Koreans. Developing new talents was one of the strong points of the 2015 system, with 2K$ (2K$ ! 20% of what your standard DreamHack winner wins !) for a miserable Ro64 finish.
This rumored system does neither.
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On December 12 2015 10:20 looknohands119 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2015 10:16 RevTiberius wrote: Totally devalues the WCS final because you now have 8 foreigners competing in it who would never ever had a chance to qualify under the old system Wat!? WCS finals would be waaaaaaay more exciting. Its an east/west showdown we'll have been waiting for all year long. nothing could be more hype than that. :D
Really? We saw how well the very best foreigner did this year. Having the next best 4 or 5 will be even more of a stomp :s
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On December 12 2015 10:05 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2015 10:03 Silvana wrote:On December 12 2015 08:36 Popkiller wrote: "In addition, at Blizzcon, the WCS Global players and WCS Circuit players will be segregated into their own half-brackets..." Didn't read from page 3 onwards but this has to be a joke. This has to be a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is =P
Thank God! Phew. But seriously I hope they stop the region lock bullshit already. This year was a good compromise (not for me personally, but it seemed to be so for most people).
Damn I got scared!
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