EPTThank you flash! I hope you read it here, too!
I wish the interview was longer, I could read it all day long... It would be nice to know some more.
[Interview] Flash - The Final Tale of the Ultimate Weapon…
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
Thank you flash! I hope you read it here, too! I wish the interview was longer, I could read it all day long... It would be nice to know some more. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 10 2015 07:19 Jj_82 wrote: Thank you OP! Thank you flash! I hope you read it here, too! I wish the interview was longer, I could read it all day long... It would be nice to know some more. I'm sure this is far from the last long-form interview with Flash we'll get to read over the coming weeks and months. There is so much to talk about and discuss, and so many people to ask the questions, that Flash's interview schedule could be occupied for quite some time to come. | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
On December 10 2015 00:50 BLinD-RawR wrote: hes more or less talking about bisu but there are a few guys who have been streaming for so long and haven't succumbed to outright asking for donations, like Mind or guys like larva who now generally has a more serious attitude towards the game and therefor does not do weird stuff like jump out of a window....Really it comes down to your personal preference, if you want to be that guy who entertains for money then cool. in the end though flash will probably stream if for no reason other than to satisfy his fans, hes just that kind of guy, my only hope is that he doesn't go "full afreeca". really larva? I saw him a couple weeks ago on terror's stream fighting in a boxing ring against some viewer. it was the cringest shit ever lol I think taking terror out of the discussion (because lets face it he was barely a progamer), the main root of all this "progamer loses face to earn money on afreeca" stemmed from pusan. he used to go down on all fours and crawl around the room acting like a dog for balloons  shit was hilarious | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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OrangeGarage
Korea (South)319 Posts
On December 10 2015 00:27 nanaoei wrote: maybe it's something lost in translation. i don't really follow bw-streaming aside from favourites but some of the outliers are terror (no stardom) jaehoon (not much stardom) for stream cheating, or something along those lines, though it wasn't a huge deal and it happened outside of an actual stream session. the only person i can think of who could even fit the bill is bisu. skt1 coach iloveoov made some comments about how it was unbecoming of a sc player like bisu to stream for donations. (not verbatim here, but you get the gist). although i love watching his play even on stream, it does seem a bit like a money grab. again, i don't even know if this fits the bill. very incredibly likely i'm missing some key info, but this is why i say it might be lost in translation. Some BW oldbies have been streaming strictly for money, screaming at cam/shaving eyebrows for money, treating viewers differently based on how much they donate, etc. Former STX Soul Terror is one of the biggest examples. TL Wiki says he was banned from Afreeca because he competed with middle schoolers eating ramen and the ramen was too spicy. Not true. When the middle school kids lost, he sprayed Soy sauce all over them with a big tub and that got on the 9 o'clock news. SCBW Afreeca streamers is a tentative subject since many former SC players currently stream BW. (Sea, Bisu, Best, The Rock, JulyZerg etc), so it is natural that coaches and players are hesitant about this. I know for a fact that recently Bisu kissed a girl on cam when a viewer donated a big sum of money. Best lost a match vs Terror (Best gave vision and took out 1 probe after start) and shaved his eyebrows on cam. These were the 2 most recent ones that were a big issue in DCinside Starcraft Gallery. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
Than on the other hand it's obvious, that the very outgoing afreeca scene is kind of a "shock" to the established Pro's and Teams since it's so contradictionary to the way pro gamers normally act (very humble, upright, etc ) | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On December 10 2015 06:05 TaShadan wrote: I have seen similar decisions in the past 1-2 years. It might still be tilted but it happend quite a lot. i have to agree with this actually. | ||
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OrangeGarage
Korea (South)319 Posts
On December 10 2015 10:40 Cele wrote: hmh i honestly think that the very negative reactions that we saw by SC2 coaches and affiliates/Spokesman of the KeSpa actually stems from the fact, that they are losing a lot of viewerbase to korean Streamers and Events like SSL and VSL in Korea. So discrediting it, could be an expression of that. Than on the other hand it's obvious, that the very outgoing afreeca scene is kind of a "shock" to the established Pro's and Teams since it's so contradictionary to the way pro gamers normally act (very humble, upright, etc ) "however, I won’t do what the fans worry about. I promise that," As in: "I won't affiliate with Terror and shave my eyebrows" | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On December 09 2015 23:24 Highgamer wrote: I would doubt any other progamer saying that, but in Flash's case... might be true. Obviously. After all, he is God, not some progamer-human. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On December 10 2015 10:43 RCCar wrote: "however, I won’t do what the fans worry about. I promise that," As in: "I won't affiliate with Terror and shave my eyebrows" yeah i read it that way too. | ||
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Antonidas
United States105 Posts
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Spirit_76
8 Posts
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Fliparoni
205 Posts
On December 10 2015 10:33 RCCar wrote: Some BW oldbies have been streaming strictly for money, screaming at cam/shaving eyebrows for money, treating viewers differently based on how much they donate, etc. Former STX Soul Terror is one of the biggest examples. https://youtu.be/Pt6Wy6WorFI TL Wiki says he was banned from Afreeca because he competed with middle schoolers eating ramen and the ramen was too spicy. Not true. When the middle school kids lost, he sprayed Soy sauce all over them with a big tub and that got on the 9 o'clock news. SCBW Afreeca streamers is a tentative subject since many former SC players currently stream BW. (Sea, Bisu, Best, The Rock, JulyZerg etc), so it is natural that coaches and players are hesitant about this. I know for a fact that recently Bisu kissed a girl on cam when a viewer donated a big sum of money. Best lost a match vs Terror (Best gave vision and took out 1 probe after start) and shaved his eyebrows on cam. These were the 2 most recent ones that were a big issue in DCinside Starcraft Gallery. That vid you linked. Wtf did I just watch? Lol | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
On December 10 2015 18:11 Fliparoni wrote: That vid you linked. Wtf did I just watch? Lol believe me, he's done worse lol. | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11899 Posts
Of all the examples, someone had to mention the most extreme case? Terror is an anomaly. He belongs to an elite club consisting of himself and himself only. He is in a class of his own, dozens of levels higher than your average streamer on the entirety of Afreeca. | ||
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CptMarvel
France236 Posts
Albeit that's not even remotely comparable to what I'll feel when Roger Federer says goodbye to tennis. | ||
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ZombieFrog
United States87 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
hes also cleaned up a lot since his kid was born. | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
he still makes a ton of money though, according to this table regarding top afreeca BJ earnings in the month of november 2015 terror is up there at #8, 493,296 "balloons" which converts to 38,161,379 KRW (his cut is 80% because he is a partnered BJ) which is roughly $32370.77 USD. | ||
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Orr
United States168 Posts
Mahalo for everything you've done for the great game of Starcraft the past 9 years, Lee Young-ho. No one will ever forget your name. | ||
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