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Lilbow and his Approach to WCS Finals 2015 - Page 3
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Makro
France16890 Posts
this shitstorm could have been avoided so easily | ||
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duckk
United States622 Posts
His losses to life did not even look like him being rusty at hots as much as it was him not understanding the game and not adapting to life's early game builds. | ||
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Aeromi
France14458 Posts
On November 03 2015 02:04 duckk wrote: If he struggled to find practice partners on EU, why didn't he just search KR ladder? Any player in the top 35 are going to be stronger than his EU practice partners, and ranks 36-~80 are still good practice. His losses to life did not even look like him being rusty at hots as much as it was him not understanding the game and not adapting to life's early game builds. No one is playing HOTS ladder, Blizzcon players are doing custom games. | ||
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rotta
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suddendeathTV
Sweden388 Posts
On November 03 2015 01:57 showstealer1829 wrote: Lilbow got in on a joke of a system specifically rigged to get a foreign hope into Blizzcon, treated the whole match as a joke and free money and from the looks of things turned down even the offers to practice with people so he wouldn't look like a joke. He's not the only foreigner but he's the best foreigner and if the best foreigner can't be bothered to actually try in the biggest event of the year then they deserve nothing. The sooner Blizzard ends the stupid region lock the better we'll all be This is actually a good post. Region locks were added to get players like Lilbow into Blizzcon, and when he actually made it there; he totally shat on the entire thing. That's one big thank you to Blizzard :D | ||
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suddendeathTV
Sweden388 Posts
On November 03 2015 02:06 Aeromi wrote: No one is playing HOTS ladder, Blizzcon players are doing custom games. As could Lilbow. He just chose not to. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
playing 100s of games with elazer and tlo will make you still lose and he wouldn't be qualified for dh. The only mistake here is his PR, if he had shut the fuck up about it nobody would have said anything. Even going to the ro8 is only 2.500$ more, if you look at it rationnaly it's a stupid decision to go all in on hots with DH coming. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
Hydra Rain PartinG Fantasy How did these guys train without Kespa team behind them and with "dead ladder" in EU, US and Kr? That he could not train is a terrible terrible sentence and strong Zergs in Europe have asked him if he wanted/needed help. Mil would have send him to Korea, where I bet they could find / pay some strong Zerg to train with him. You will allways find ways. And the sentence about life cheesing... it was a skill test, 3 easy to hold all ins and he failed all 3 of them despite scouting. I mean it is Life, he cheeses with Zerglings, thats nothing out of the box. And what do you want to focus on LotV? I mean Zest for example had to play vs the God INnoVation is Super Korean Form 3 and still prepared. And this guy will play a LotV Tournament with 20k on the line right after release against some of the best Koreans out there. Lilbow just showed something I cannot forgive and I hope he gets trashed in LotV by hard working foreigners and koreans. What he did was a straight insult to everyone watching the game. I hope Blizzard will learn from this shit and reopen WCS to all Koreans willing to move to Europe and US. Make the residence during the complete Season as requirement, not sports/working visa. Such a shame and such a joke when we could have seen Dark, Hyun or others who would have given their heart and soul during training for this special event. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On November 03 2015 02:04 duckk wrote: If he struggled to find practice partners on EU, why didn't he just search KR ladder? Any player in the top 35 are going to be stronger than his EU practice partners, and ranks 36-~80 are still good practice. His losses to life did not even look like him being rusty at hots as much as it was him not understanding the game and not adapting to life's early game builds. The Korean ladder is just as dead. All the Koreans are either playing LotV, on break, or playing HotS custom games privately. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On November 03 2015 02:09 ZAiNs wrote: The Korean ladder is just as dead. All the Koreans are either playing LotV, on break, or playing HotS custom games privately. And if you train with a korean you can be 100% sure your strats are gonna be leaked. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
And then I see the match and the shit after and it's just like... ok. SC is still full of children, but at least the KR children have enough external and internal motivation to give a shit about being an actual professional. On November 03 2015 02:08 sAsImre wrote: playing 100s of games with elazer and tlo will make you still lose and he wouldn't be qualified for dh. The only mistake here is his PR, if he had shut the fuck up about it nobody would have said anything. Even going to the ro8 is only 2.500$ more, if you look at it rationnaly it's a stupid decision to go all in on hots with DH coming. Yeah why work for an extra 3 grand. Who would want that kind of money that's like nothing! | ||
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Aeromi
France14458 Posts
On November 03 2015 02:08 Clonester wrote: Polt Hydra Rain PartinG Fantasy How did these guys train without Kespa team behind them and with "dead ladder" in EU, US and Kr? That he could not train is a terrible terrible sentence and strong Zergs in Europe have asked him if he wanted/needed help. Mil would have send him to Korea, where I bet they could find / pay some strong Zerg to train with him. You will allways find ways. And the sentence about life cheesing... it was a skill test, 3 easy to hold all ins and he failed all 3 of them despite scouting. I mean it is Life, he cheeses with Zerglings, thats nothing out of the box. And what do you want to focus on LotV? I mean Zest for example had to play vs the God INnoVation is Super Korean Form 3 and still prepared. And this guy will play a LotV Tournament with 20k on the line right after release against some of the best Koreans out there. Lilbow just showed something I cannot forgive and I hope he gets trashed in LotV by hard working foreigners and koreans. What he did was a straight insult to everyone watching the game. I hope Blizzard will learn from this shit and reopen WCS to all Koreans willing to move to Europe and US. Make the residence during the complete Season as requirement, not sports/working visa. Such a shame and such a joke when we could have seen Dark, Hyun or others who would have given their heart and soul during training for this special event. Networking | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
On November 03 2015 01:43 deacon.frost wrote: Actually no one gives a shit about his losses vs Life. Most people give shit about his attitude. He was supposed to lose and everyone expected him to lose against Life. But with these statements? C'mon, he's supposed to be a professional player and is acting like a spoiled child. sure, watchin Lilbow playing LotV in HotS was entertaining. He is a spoiled child, you cant get anymore else from someone like that. | ||
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StatixEx
United Kingdom779 Posts
As for the pro NA players as well, most of them can come out of the woodwork now and say what they like but all im seeing is hearthstone, overwatch,LOTV, heroes and other games. Yep. They would have made really worthy opponents seeing that lilbow fucked all them up at DH and done so well over the last year, he literally had noone to play against of a life skill i dont care what anyone says, life is life and i think fenner said it on his stream, you cant watch life and play like life. Hes never been more right. | ||
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RevTiberius
Canada353 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 03 2015 02:08 Clonester wrote: Polt Hydra Rain PartinG Fantasy . Top 2 here especially, I doubt many thought Polt had much of a hope against Rain, and Hydra lost to Lilbow at WCS S3 so what hope did he have against Dream? but you know what? They at least tried and Hydra WON. It's not a Korea v The Foreigner thing, it's a respect thing, just as Chuddinator said. They showed respect, Lilbow showed none. That's the difference. | ||
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suddendeathTV
Sweden388 Posts
Well, we realize that you want to defend your fellow frenchy just like us swedes defended NaNiwa back at IEM but meh... Lilbow could have practiced if he wanted to, but he didn't want to. He chose not to. He didn't care. Those are facts as he himself have stated. It actually does make him sound like a spoiled child like someone said in this thread. He pulled a NaNiwa and deserves just as much shit as NaNiwa recieved back in the days. I wish someone like Snute or Bunny or whoever would have played better during the last year so they got this 'foreigner spot'. I'm sure they would have practiced at least. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On November 03 2015 02:16 showstealer1829 wrote: Top 2 here especially, I doubt many thought Polt had much of a hope against Rain, and Hydra lost to Lilbow at WCS S3 so what hope did he have against Dream? but you know what? They at least tried and Hydra WON. It's not a Korea v The Foreigner thing, it's a respect thing, just as Chuddinator said. They showed respect, Lilbow showed none. That's the difference. Hydra lost to all ins in ZvP so what chances he had in TvZ. Top 2 logic here. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 03 2015 02:13 StatixEx wrote: we can all say what we like but he did lose to 101_EarlyAgression, life said it himself, lil who? Exactly! I personally wanted lilbow to do well but come on, did anyone even expect him to beat life? really? Come on now. Hes said what hes said and i admire the truth. Hes moving onto the next game, hes got life, then other koreans possibility of inno as well. Nope. He knew it, we knew it. its a shame hes said what hes said, but god, i would of known in my heart im going home round one. As for the pro NA players as well, most of them can come out of the woodwork now and say what they like but all im seeing is hearthstone, overwatch,LOTV, heroes and other games. Yep. They would have made really worthy opponents seeing that lilbow fucked all them up at DH and done so well over the last year, he literally had noone to play against of a life skill i dont care what anyone says, life is life and i think fenner said it on his stream, you cant watch life and play like life. Hes never been more right. Life is not this unbeatable deity. We're talking about a player who's lost 3-1 to Welmu, 3-0 to Scarlett and 2-1 to fucking Sjow. Obviously Lilbow was not favored against him, but this "it's over before it even began" attitude is toxic to the foreign scene. | ||
digmouse
China6329 Posts
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