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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
October 04 2015 18:21 GMT
#121
Sad but expected. Hopefully Afreeca will provide us with similar quality production (and Tastosis?). At least stream quality will not disappoint!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 04 2015 18:22 GMT
#122
On October 05 2015 03:12 Paragleiber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 02:55 WrathSCII wrote:
Beside, what will happen to the GOMEXP Youtube channel? What about all the VODs there?


It will probably be abandoned. Nothing will happen to the existing vods but they won't add new ones anymore.

Aren't there still a lot of old vods that haven't been uploaded yet? Would be a shame if those were lost forever. Fortunately, some of those seasons were torrented back in the day, and even I have some games downloaded from those torrents. Hopefully if GOM isn't willing to maintain the YouTube channel, they won't be willing to do any copyright strikes so the community can flesh out those uploads without worry.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 19:02:25
October 04 2015 18:32 GMT
#123
So sad
Gom was like an old friend all these years, the GSTL memories, the open season when terran were nerfed because they could just stim and kill the protosses who didn't react fast enough to forcefield their own ramp and because zergs were droning till 70 pop without units.
Naniwa Nestea incident, Tastosis...

I feel like a familly member just died

I hope tastosis will still cast and all the GOM employees will still have a job.
zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
October 04 2015 19:10 GMT
#124
It's sad to see GOM go after all these years. I have so much respect for everyone involved in that company, even though they received so much shit the past year or so.

Hopefully Afreeca keeps Tasteosis (not sure why they would replace them) and we can see a Brood War GSL in the future as well. Really looking forward to the future of StarCraft!

"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 04 2015 19:11 GMT
#125
Well the only thing I watched on twitch was gsl, glad I dont have to use twitch anymore
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
October 04 2015 19:12 GMT
#126
On October 05 2015 03:22 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 03:12 Paragleiber wrote:
On October 05 2015 02:55 WrathSCII wrote:
Beside, what will happen to the GOMEXP Youtube channel? What about all the VODs there?


It will probably be abandoned. Nothing will happen to the existing vods but they won't add new ones anymore.

Aren't there still a lot of old vods that haven't been uploaded yet? Would be a shame if those were lost forever. Fortunately, some of those seasons were torrented back in the day, and even I have some games downloaded from those torrents. Hopefully if GOM isn't willing to maintain the YouTube channel, they won't be willing to do any copyright strikes so the community can flesh out those uploads without worry.



I'm sure they exist in some form or another. Sad, really, that they might be gone forever
"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
October 04 2015 20:23 GMT
#127
On October 04 2015 18:33 machinus wrote:
Cannot wait to see how hot NaDa's wife is

I love how this was the only thing you posted haha...made my day :-p
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24193 Posts
October 04 2015 20:28 GMT
#128
It's sad to see the good old GomTV days gone, but I welcome the outlook of a fresh start for my beloved game.
+ Show Spoiler +
even with a meh expansion
lost_patrol
Profile Joined July 2015
16 Posts
October 04 2015 20:30 GMT
#129
So, what about everyone who defended GSL running the 240p quality as a good business decision?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 20:46:48
October 04 2015 20:46 GMT
#130
On October 05 2015 05:30 lost_patrol wrote:
So, what about everyone who defended GSL running the 240p quality as a good business decision?

They ignored just foreign part of their streaming IIRC, the Korean stream had 720(or 1080? not sure now) and I am pretty sure free 1080p would not save them. The numbers were good with shit quality...

Edit: Basically it is the other way around. Those who said that GOM has problems to keep GSL alive were right... Sadly
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
October 04 2015 21:03 GMT
#131
i remember going to the old gom studio to watch bw.

rip gom. thanks for all the awesome times
Team LiquidPoorUser
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 21:52:50
October 04 2015 21:52 GMT
#132
Kinda sad to see them go, I had a blast during the last 5 years, they did a lot for esports and SC2, thank you! Couldn't support their paywall policy, though, so the news don't surprise me that much. Hopefully Afreeca will acquire most of the staff to continue the awesome production!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16694 Posts
October 04 2015 23:01 GMT
#133
On October 05 2015 03:22 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 03:12 Paragleiber wrote:
On October 05 2015 02:55 WrathSCII wrote:
Beside, what will happen to the GOMEXP Youtube channel? What about all the VODs there?


It will probably be abandoned. Nothing will happen to the existing vods but they won't add new ones anymore.

Aren't there still a lot of old vods that haven't been uploaded yet? Would be a shame if those were lost forever. Fortunately, some of those seasons were torrented back in the day, and even I have some games downloaded from those torrents. Hopefully if GOM isn't willing to maintain the YouTube channel, they won't be willing to do any copyright strikes so the community can flesh out those uploads without worry.


pretty brutal if they don't put them up but then try to enforce their rights. GOMtv was heavily subsidized by Blizzard so hopefully they'll be good guys about it.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
October 05 2015 00:23 GMT
#134
On October 05 2015 01:33 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 01:28 LimitSEA wrote:
On October 05 2015 00:48 GGzerG wrote:
On October 05 2015 00:38 TheDougler wrote:
I mean, I know Afreeca is fine... But this still feels like the end of an era. GomTV is GSL for me. It'll be fine, I'll get over it... But damn. Was not expecting this.

I understand your feelings and concerns, but I like to think of this as the beginning of a new Era, rather than an end. It is still going to continue on Afreeca with free 1080p quality, shouldn't be too hard to get over TheDougler~

The love for GomTV ain't got nothing to do with quality. It's the history we have with them, with Tastosis and John the translator. It's the epic games we watched with them and because of them. It's the mad hype, the random side shows they ran and the epic, hilarious music they played in breaks.

I get that a lot of that will be present in future seasons as well, and we'll develop a history with Afreeca too. But that doesn't mean it won't be hard to not miss Gom. They introduced me to SC2, and for that I'll always be grateful.

On October 05 2015 01:12 Brutaxilos wrote:
Did GOMeXP end as in they are bought or end in that the company is completely gone and all the employees are now unemployed?
I really love the team at GSL and I hope they will stay even under the new management.

Don't think so. Pretty sure they're just taking a step back from eSports as a whole and continuing with their other ventures.

Thats true and I understand that completely, I am hoping for some Tastosis myself.


You guys are both awesome: LimitSea hit the nail on the head. You're right though GGzerG; this isn't the end of Starcraft, just a new chapter.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Kofuku
Profile Joined January 2014
31 Posts
October 05 2015 00:45 GMT
#135
Good-bye GOM GSTL is the first competitive SC2 I ever watched and was what made me fall in love with the game. I will miss Tastosis and the great production value.

--

On October 05 2015 02:03 BronzeKnee wrote:
How could this happen?

I thought the free ultra-low quality stream meant people were buying subscriptions and it was such a great decision that it was keeping GOM afloat. I mean GOM was a business and they definitely knew what they were doing, right?

How dare people like me question such business wisdom... oh well maybe if they had tried a different business model, as I suggested, they wouldn't have folded.

gg Gom. Watch the replay.


On October 05 2015 05:30 lost_patrol wrote:
So, what about everyone who defended GSL running the 240p quality as a good business decision?


As one of those people who thought (and still thinks) it was a good business decision, I don't know how you can link GOM shuttering its business with that. It's clear that it was only even done as a desperate attempt to make money by a struggling company, and it failed. From my perspective, without seeing any GOM financials, the sequence looks like this:

1. GOM is financially struggling.
2. GOM tries to create a new revenue stream from a previously loss-generating segment by making foreign viewers pay for 1080p quality.
3. GOM continues to financially struggle so it shuts down.

Even if you take out number 2 above, numbers 1 and 3 would still have happened. Would they still be around today if they gave free HD streaming to foreigners, who generate almost no ad revenue and probably cause loss because of the extra production costs? Honestly, it's not possible to say without real data but I don't see how it's likely.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
October 05 2015 01:15 GMT
#136
So what's the verdict? Is this a good thing?
For Aiur???
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
October 05 2015 01:17 GMT
#137
@Kofuku I wouldn't assume that without looking at their financials. Of course sc2 wasn't making them any money, but who knows what else they invested in. On stream they said they're leaving e-sports.

So many good memories watching GOM. The original 2 am stream. I just hope Afreeca can live up to their name. There's a lot more than stream quality that went into that business.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States337 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-05 01:35:14
October 05 2015 01:34 GMT
#138
From the facts that I know, Gretech were trying to leave esports and sell GSL as far back as 2014 (and possibly longer). I wouldn't peg the blame on the GSL foreign stream as the primary cause. I think we all know at this point that SC2 is not the most popular game in Korea, but the thing about that studio is that you need to have it continuously booked with events to get the most out of it. This was something they did not do and possibly could not do.

Edit: + Show Spoiler +
OMG! Thank you for the Arti icon <3
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-05 03:39:09
October 05 2015 03:38 GMT
#139
On October 05 2015 10:34 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
I wouldn't peg the blame on the GSL foreign stream as the primary cause.


If you're dumb enough to make a business decision like that and have terrible stream quality, you're bound to make a whole bunch of other dumb business decisions.

And that is why they folded.
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
October 05 2015 03:48 GMT
#140
Out of all the comments, I don't think I've seen anyone congratulate Nada :/

Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
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