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[SPL'15] The Last Leg

Text byDarkhorse
Graphics byshiroiusagi
September 6th, 2015 14:59 GMT

Round 4 In the Bag

KT vs Sbenu

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Round 4 In the Bag



With the last quarter of the regular season officially in the books, we have a bit of time to reflect on the year of Proleague that we have witnessed. Sure, there is still the Round 4 playoffs gauntlet yet to be played, but that will actually [E/N: unfortunately contrary to my claims last week, which were hastily corrected by a recount of the points table] have very little impact on the final standings heading into the Championship Bracket for the year. The four teams heading to the final playoffs are, from first to fourth seed, SKT, CJ, Jin Air, and KT, while Sbenu, Samsung, MVP, and Prime will be watching the playoffs longingly. Sure, KT could technically supplant Jin Air as the third seed should they win this round's playoffs, and Sbenu could be forced to experience the intense heartbreak of missing the playoffs by a mere one point (If they win they would finish with 222 points to fourth-seed KT's 223) but essentially, the round playoffs will be about the 15k first prize and practice for the real show starting on September 21st.

Round 4 Playoffs: Sbenu vs KT Rolster


by Darkhorse

Monday, Sep 07 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

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KT Rolster
vs SBENU
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(T)Flash < Vaani Research Station > (T)MMA
< Iron Fortress LE >
< Cactus Valley LE >
< Coda LE >
< Terraform LE >
< Echo LE >
< Vaani Research Station >

Credits to xpaperclip


Consolation Prize

What a weird year 2015 has been for Startale/Sbenu fans. First, they get their hopes up in round one when Life (who was at the time the consensus best player in the world) carried them to the round one playoffs with performances somewhat contrary to his typical team league mediocrity. After a playoffs-ending traffic jam and the unexpected (fans might remember the rather unambiguous tweet "Startale forever" Life made some time earlier) departure of Life to KT Rolster, Startale was infected with the Prime virus and finished Round 2 in dead last with an 0-7 record [E/N: how bitter that ace match loss to Prime must taste now, 1 point away from a potential playoffs spot]. If that transition wasn't crazy enough, they then picked up a new sponsor, changed to a new team name, and settled down in the middle of the pack.

Sbenu happens to be the only team that mathematically cannot make the final playoffs but are still alive in Round 4. As I mentioned earlier, their best possible finish would put them at 222 total points on the year, just one behind KT's 223. Sad? For a longtime Startale fan such as myself, yes. But honestly, this could have gone much worse for Sbenu. They really gambled in their round two recovery when they picked up WoL veterans like DRG, Jjakji, and MMA to fill out their roster. Luckily, those moves have at least partially paid off and they managed to sneak into the round four playoffs in fourth place. DRG has been more successful in Proleague than he has been in a long time, and Leenock's 4-2 record is certainly nothing to scoff at.

But for each Leenock, Sbenu seem to have a jjakji to match. And contrary to 2011, those are not words of praise. Because of their inconsistent year, it's hard to predict how Sbenu will perform against KT. They bested both KT and SKT this round, but they also lost to Samsung and were taken to ace matches by Prime and MVP. While Jjakji, MMA, and Bomber have struggled throughout the round, Leenock and Curious have been decent and DRG has, again, been spectacular. Do they have a more talented roster than their opponents? Certainly not. Do they have a shot at winning? They certainly do. Team leagues, especially with an all kill format like the round playoffs, depend quite a bit on momentum, sprinkled with doses of experience. If they get off to a good start, I see no reason why SBENU couldn't cause an upset here. And hey, as long as they manage to actually show up to the studio this time, this will be the team's best finish of the year, which isn't so bad after such a turbulent season.

More Than Money, More Than Pride

Yes, KT is the only team that can actually change the standings heading into the season playoffs. If they manage to win this round -- which they reasonably could manage to do -- they will pass Jin Air and earn themselves the third seed, and if they don't, they will finish the season in fourth place. Unfortunately, with this season using the same format for the season playoffs as they do for the round playoffs, that -- at least as far as we know -- means virtually nothing. They will still play Jin Air in round one on September 21st and, because Korea cannot stand without its eternal reincarnations, will still need to beat both Jin Air and CJ to reach the grand finals against their Telecom rivals. Although I wish they had kept the same format for the season playoffs that they used last year because it would make the end of this round more interesting, for the purposes of now let's focus on the match.

KT have a lot of advantages heading into this showdown against Sbenu. Although they did lose when the two teams met this round, the team has been on fire as of late. They finished the round with three straight wins and only dropped a single map. Perhaps most importantly, Zest is playing like the all-killing, GSL champion-caliber beast that we all know and finished the round with a league best 7-0 record. If I were KT's coach, I wouldn't hesitate to field Zest first and hope for the all kill that he is more than capable of pulling off. KT's lineup is significantly better suited to formats that allow for win streaks (as Zest and Stats have shown particularly well in the past) than Sbenu's, and their opponents have no players to reliably carry similar streaks of their own.

What's worse, Sbenu lose out on most potential 1-on-1 match-ups as well. They are undoubtedly a good team, but they can't hope to match the depth of KT any more than the momentum the Telecom team could muster. Even without Zest, I'd consider Life, Stats, and Flash (you know TY probably won't be fielded no matter what happens) to be favored against anyone in Sbenu's lineup with the possible exception of DRG or Curious on a good day. Considering this, Sbenu's backs are against the wall in more ways than one. As a fan of the team I can recognize what they've managed to do with very little to begin with this season, and I won't count them out entirely. but I'd be a fool to predict a win here.

KT 4-2 Sbenu


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Writers: Darkhorse
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Editor(s): Zealously
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 06 2015 15:02 GMT
#2
Dat preview post button
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 06 2015 15:12 GMT
#3
the 2015 proleague player records is just jumbled html atm
can i get my estro logo back pls
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
September 06 2015 15:22 GMT
#4
I wish MMA catches fire again like he did during Blizzcon for a sublime farewell.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
September 06 2015 15:32 GMT
#5
that spoiler contain too much html for my taste
I like starcraft
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
September 06 2015 15:47 GMT
#6
It's too bad that TY probably won't be fielded given his excellent games vs. ByuL and the Zerg-heavy lineup that is Sbenu. But I suspect you're right and it will just be the core four.
<3 BaseTradeTV <3
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
September 06 2015 15:53 GMT
#7
Think SBENU did well going this far, all considering the old Kespa teams are really still the powerhouses of Proleague but SBENU have managed to get to round 4 finals and also overtake Samsung in the final standings is quite a feat. I honestly thought it would have been SBENU/Startale, MVP and Prime at the bottom 3 at the start of the season. It's a shame they'll be 1 point short no matter what, otherwise this playoff match might have a little more spice to it haha
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 06 2015 16:05 GMT
#8
On September 07 2015 00:32 oGoZenob wrote:
that spoiler contain too much html for my taste


We'll refer to Liquipedia's stats and call it a day
AdministratorBreak the chains
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
September 06 2015 16:11 GMT
#9
SBENU 4-3 DRG Reverse All-Kill
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swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
September 06 2015 16:49 GMT
#10
Wow. Just wow. The mobile version of this preview is just plain bad. To sum it up in a few words: overlapping text galore.
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
September 06 2015 16:52 GMT
#11
Flash > MMA
Curious > Flash
Zest > Curious
Zest > Bomber
DRG > Zest
DRG > Stats
DRG > Life

DRG reverse all-kill incoming.

GIMME A D !!
GIMME A R !!
GIMME A G !!

D R G !!!!!
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 06 2015 17:06 GMT
#12
On September 07 2015 01:49 swag_bro wrote:
Wow. Just wow. The mobile version of this preview is just plain bad. To sum it up in a few words: overlapping text galore.


Just the headers, or the text body as well?
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 06 2015 17:13 GMT
#13
On September 07 2015 02:06 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 01:49 swag_bro wrote:
Wow. Just wow. The mobile version of this preview is just plain bad. To sum it up in a few words: overlapping text galore.


Just the headers, or the text body as well?

This is the only issue I have.

+ Show Spoiler +
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Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
September 06 2015 17:21 GMT
#14
("Paid" instead of "payed," yes?)

All these comments about the formatting and spelling instead of the actual article. It's a great write up, thanks for posting it. :D

Love that I can actually read things like this about Starcraft.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-06 17:25:47
September 06 2015 17:25 GMT
#15
Sbenu are lucky. They'll be dead before Zest gets the chance to come out and destroy them.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
September 06 2015 18:04 GMT
#16
As long as SBENU make it to the studio, it'll be better than last time.
In a all-kill format is hard to see KT drop it.
EvilsPresley
Profile Joined December 2014
France132 Posts
September 06 2015 18:13 GMT
#17
On September 07 2015 03:04 AKAvg wrote:
As long as SBENU make it to the studio, it'll be better than last time.


I doubt Flash will win, but Zest and Stats should do the job.
Rogue | Maru
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
September 06 2015 19:07 GMT
#18
i see flash taking 1-2 wins (but mma will put up a good show).
overall prediction: 4-2, too.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
September 06 2015 20:01 GMT
#19
Agree with some people, ST wins through one of the zergs going big
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
September 06 2015 20:38 GMT
#20
I pity all the fools who have convinced themselves KT will win.
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