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On June 10 2015 16:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 16:14 nkr wrote:On June 10 2015 16:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I don't see how they can possibly think that'll help their profits in any significant capacity. Considering they've had a period with free medium and one without, I'm sure they're sitting on the facts here. Not us. You mean the fact that having an English GSL stream isn't profitable to GOM with or without medium free?
Most likely not enough people are subscribing when medium is free. Yes. Tastosis are probably not that cheap.
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On June 10 2015 16:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 16:15 str10_hurts wrote: I am ok with that. When I was a student I watched it on low. I got free entertainment! Now that I work I pay for the stream, I save money by not investing in crap programmes on tv.
Lets be honest, the GSL is by far the best SC2 show out there. Yes other shows have good stuff, but really the GSL is were it is. I prefer Proleague, GSL has 2 casters who wish they were casting other games and is equal in game quality to S2SL, so there's really no reason to watch anymore is there? And they are still the best casters by far, isn't that sad? If I compare it to Valdez/Wolf/Moonglade team or ESL casting teams, I still pick the GSL team. Professional team without any strong accent and without the "scream into the oblivion" syndrome when something is happening.
Though I must say, that Tasteless Moonglade was really insanely good and entertaining casting duo. And the "A" team would be the best, but we don't have it on a regular basis ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) (A Team = Apollo Artosis)
BTW Thanks to air time of this show I watch it on low all the time and everything is watchable usually (maybe the Twitch player is bad, since I use VLC)
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Now they'll have an even lower viewership. Hopefully they'll still be around by the time LotV comes out, coz that's when they'll get some profits back for sure.
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Welp I guess we should all just watch the french gsl stream at 8pm CET, free source quality
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If GOM is trying to make the english stream pay for itself through twitch adds, I think they're stupidly naive tho.
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On June 10 2015 16:24 Noocta wrote: If GOM is trying to make the english stream pay for itself through twitch adds, I think they're stupidly naive tho.
No, they're trying to make subscribers pay for it. Pretty obvious with this move. If they wanted twitch adds to pay for it, they would have Source for free.
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I will subscribe.. i like the GSL, and i don't think that the Starcraft scene can live on free content only. Sad but true :-/ Sometimes you have to make the unpopular decisions.
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Doesn't effect me, I pay so I get VoD access.
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On June 10 2015 16:26 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 16:24 Noocta wrote: If GOM is trying to make the english stream pay for itself through twitch adds, I think they're stupidly naive tho. No, they're trying to make subscribers pay for it. Pretty obvious with this move. If they wanted twitch adds to pay for it, they would have Source for free.
Of course, but seems to me they have no idea how to make people buy subscriptions other than by making the non subscribers experience worse.
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Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
Wow if they are really struggling money wise...they are in huge trouble now lol. Literally better option would be give 720p for free and spam adds 100x more.
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Katowice25012 Posts
As someone who makes a living off banner ads I sympathize with their plight, but in a world where every bit of content I watch is in HD and free it's hard to stomach. I can't help but think barriers to entry to seeing SC2 are ultimately a very bad thing right now.
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now i'm definitely not paying. i would have bought a whole year like usual, but they got rid of that too. this is pretty sad...
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Blizzard please stop support for GOM and give money to SPOTV so they can run a second/bigger league.
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the biggest joke is how they want to get paid for the english stream but koreans get free hd. is this the racism khaldor was talking about?
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Wait, they upped it to Medium? I guess I was too busy not watching that blurry screen I didn't even get to hear that they upgraded it to a mostly blurry screen.
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Sad for GOM that they are facing such difficulty in a time when other leagues outdo them heavily in production, popularity is plunging and there are so much other Korean starcraft content to watch. Maybe they are just barely keeping the league alive with Blizz money.
Still I dont see how streaming is such an issue that irritates both GOM and us spectators, especially on such crappy platform in Twitch. Hows about Youtube and Azubu?
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well i guess ill go from watching GSL rarely because of the time to not at all again i guess, ssl has the same games with better quality and theres proleague aswell now. that and honestly id put tastosis quite far down the pecking order of casters nowadays, i just dont find them entertaining, and there clearly not interested in sc2 anymore.
sad to see gom going this way, hoepfull lotv will bail them out and keep it going for a while wierd there struggling when all signs are pointing to sc2 being the most popular that its been in korea for a while, maybe they just cant adapt with the competition
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I feel it's fair. If you don't pay, why do people feel so entitled to HQ stream? >_>
They try their best to earn money of their product, and they seem to think that they will earn more from the paying viewers than they will lose on advertisement from the leaving non-paying viewers. With ad-block and all, I really don't think a free viewer is worth much more than what they pay for the bandwidth. I think a paying viewer is worth a lot of free viewers at least, especially if you subtract the bandwidth costs, so even if they lose 100 free viewers for every new subscriber, I think they will gain from the switch.
"But all the other tournaments are free!" Yeah, maybe they don't have the attraction to get many paying viewers. As a few posters have said, GSL is the most prestigious tournament (or so many think), so many people are ready to pay to see it, even with other "lesser" tournaments available for free. Which is why this move is an option for GSL, but probably not viable for any other tournament, as very few would actually pay for it. It's not a matter of the other tournaments being nice and passionate about SC2, it's just not a good move for them to shut out free views.
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Dear GSL fans i am a starcraft fan, not a gsl fan, i guess most ppl are..
careful, salt ahead + Show Spoiler +especially these days, where i seem to be getting more and more annoyed at tasteless 'casting'.. if you can call it that.. imo his voice is really unpleasant and he seems to be at a loss for words more often than not.. yes, he's done great things for starcarft&esports in general blablabla.. i get that, but the quality of casting i get in proleague or ssl is just so much higher every way i look at it.. so now gom tells me i can't see the details of what's happening anymore and i don't wanna listen to the guy who's supposed to tell me what's happening.. if gom hires someone else instead i will consider watching again..
i'll be reading the results on liquipedia, at least there i can see the numbers clearly..
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