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[WCS] Premier Ro16 Groups Drawn - Page 4

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Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
June 01 2015 14:53 GMT
#61
Show them TLO, show them how fool they are...
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 15:52:59
June 01 2015 15:51 GMT
#62
Given that Bunny is now the foreign hope, it's a good group for him. If a foreigner is to take a Blizzcon spot from a top Korean, let him at least somehow prove himself against mid-tier ones to partly justify his presence there.

I'd prefer to not have a foreigner at Blizzcon at all rather than have one that is so inferior to mid-tier Koreans that even his fans don't give him much chance against them.
Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 15:58:35
June 01 2015 15:55 GMT
#63
On June 01 2015 14:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 13:10 Torrefy wrote:
On June 01 2015 10:21 Larkin wrote:
On June 01 2015 10:13 nick00bot wrote:

Everyone uses group of death to mean hardest though, you gotta use phrases the same way everyone else does to communicate, though your rationalization is solid. I think of the hardest group as the group of death because its the most stacked and therefore even great players, who would make it far in other groups, will get eliminated


Yes, I think the 'hardest' group is Group B because every player in there could easily lose their matches to everyone else.

Whereas in Group A, I think ForGG and Hydra will have an easier time of it than Bunny or Gungfu.


A good way to explain the 'group of death' is this. Let's say hypothetically there was a 17th player, and he got to choose what group he was put into. This is a completely generic player who has no preferred matchups and no history with any of the other 16 players. Whichever group he would least want to be put into is the potential group of death. Whichever group would give that player the worst chance of advancing. A true group of death, if there is one, should really be significantly scarier than the other groups. As in, the player might say "Whoa, I don't want to go in that group, that's the group of death!"

So yes, the group with the highest total skill level among it's players is the one that might be a group of death. It's not about which group is the hardest to predict or most evenly matched, it's about which group if you stuck a player in it would give that player the lowest chance of advancing. I guarantee if you switched any of the players from Group A with a player from any of the other groups the Group A player's chances of advancing would go up (even the players who may be favorites to advance already would still see their chances increase.)

That's what the group of death is.


Looking it up, that's not quite it. It's a group with more strong competitors than there are spots--the group with the best player(s) that will be inevitably eliminated. A group with herO, Life and two bronze leaguers would therefore not be a group of death, while your definition would consider it so.

That being said I'd still consider group A the group of death as I consider the two players eliminated from Group A to be bigger contenders in a vacuum than the two players eliminated from Group B.



omg the definition of "group of death"!!
How did you do it ? ^^
ps :i laugh so much with "a good way to explain" followed by 20 lines (17th player??:roll

wait a minute....it just hits me....balance race tournament!!! so weird
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
June 01 2015 16:30 GMT
#64
Group B actually is very strong. Polt won last season and is always able to perform well if it matters. MLord and Firecake are also in very good shape atm. And Harstem is also able to play insanely well, even though he has struggled recently due to his health issues.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 01 2015 17:06 GMT
#65
Nice job group a. I hope Gungfu gets rekt
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
June 01 2015 17:26 GMT
#66
On June 02 2015 02:06 boxerfred wrote:
Nice job group a. I hope Gungfu gets rekt

lol, you seem to have a negative view for your German fellow.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
June 01 2015 17:43 GMT
#67
iAsonu's group is doable but definitely not easy. Hope he gets more practice as school season comes to an end.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10782 Posts
June 01 2015 18:00 GMT
#68
ForGG's got this, gogo ForGG fighting!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
June 01 2015 19:24 GMT
#69
Group A: (Z)Hydra + (T)ForGG
Group B: (T)Polt + (T)MarineLorD
Group C: (P)Lilbow + (Z)TLO
Group D: (P)StarDust + (Z)Jaedong
Dream, Dark, herO, PartinG, RorO, Bbyong, Rain, soO, PtitDrogo <3. Goodbye RorO, MC you were awesome! You will be remembered!
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
June 01 2015 23:16 GMT
#70
so when does this start? dont see the date posted around...
yellowdrug
Profile Joined June 2013
Korea (South)33 Posts
June 01 2015 23:59 GMT
#71
RIP GunGFuBamBa
do terran-Park "TT" sung hoon
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
June 02 2015 07:43 GMT
#72
On June 02 2015 08:16 mikumegurine wrote:
so when does this start? dont see the date posted around...

June 26-28 in Toronto, Canada.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 02 2015 07:47 GMT
#73
On June 02 2015 16:43 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 08:16 mikumegurine wrote:
so when does this start? dont see the date posted around...

June 26-28 in Toronto, Canada.

What's the source for that?
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 08:15:06
June 02 2015 08:13 GMT
#74
On June 02 2015 16:47 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 16:43 digmouse wrote:
On June 02 2015 08:16 mikumegurine wrote:
so when does this start? dont see the date posted around...

June 26-28 in Toronto, Canada.

What's the source for that?

Templar pls

It was even announced during the season 1 finals.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
June 02 2015 08:28 GMT
#75
Poor Bunny §_§
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
June 02 2015 08:38 GMT
#76
On June 02 2015 16:47 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 16:43 digmouse wrote:
On June 02 2015 08:16 mikumegurine wrote:
so when does this start? dont see the date posted around...

June 26-28 in Toronto, Canada.

What's the source for that?

Templar didn't watch WCS Season 1 finals confirmed #nopassion
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 02 2015 08:54 GMT
#77
On June 02 2015 17:38 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 16:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 02 2015 16:43 digmouse wrote:
On June 02 2015 08:16 mikumegurine wrote:
so when does this start? dont see the date posted around...

June 26-28 in Toronto, Canada.

What's the source for that?

Templar didn't watch WCS Season 1 finals confirmed #nopassion

I watched the games. I didn't listen to the hosts/casters talking because I was reading the LR thread
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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