EPTGreatest Players of All Time: Part 2 - Page 9
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
4. Taeja 3. MC 2. Life 1. Mvp No Parting, sOs, HerO (!!) or herO in the top 5 please. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On April 19 2015 03:09 Ctesias wrote: 5. Polt 4. Taeja 3. MC 2. Life 1. Mvp No Parting, sOs, HerO (!!) or herO in the top 5 please. we know for sure sOs wont be. stuchiu said he had him at 16. no word on the others afaik | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On April 19 2015 02:21 Paljas wrote: mmmh, Rain over Parting is bullshit imo. I think you overrate Rain way to much. Defensive Protoss styles were already played in early 2011 were two/three base voidray collossus builds won every PvZ. PvP was still a clusterfuck even with Rain, the addition of the MsC was easily the most important reason why it became a reasonable match up. Based on achievments alone, Rain is superior to Parting, but Parting's consistency, his innovations, play style, micro and games are truley unique and show a certain sense of greatness only 4 or other maybe 5 Players could match. By excluding Parting, your list may have become more reasonable, but it lacks soul now. Also, I think you underrate Nestea too. Not even mentioning that he didnt lose a single game in his July GSL makes me a sad panda. e: nvm, you did mention, i just suck. oh, and probs for choosing that Innovation pic. the chosen pictures have been top tier for the whole list Otherwise, good Job. Top prediction: MC Polt Taeja Life Mvp I have a hard time disagreeing with you on PartinG. I would say there have been no more influential players to Protoss strategy than PartinG (other than MC). Not mentioning him on the list seems like a crime to his accomplishments | ||
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
 Edit : Polt in front of MMA Oo ?! .... | ||
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`sawyer
210 Posts
 Also you have to put atleast 1 foreigner in there cause thats how lists work | ||
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
2. Mvp Life's achievements are better than Mvp's. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On April 19 2015 02:58 Alucen-Will- wrote: + Show Spoiler + It's probably worth considering that this article is just Stuchio's opinion and we are not forced to agree with the criteria or the selections if we don't agree. I disagree with the way he weights tournaments and a notable many of the selections, so its worth taking with a grain of salt Edit: Reading Zest's section it mentions that Zest's weakness is Micro...hm.. If you look at Zest's play in 2014 much of his strategies are a combination of Macro oriented builds with cheesy components (kind of a fusion of Rain and PartinG's style). Also to note that his weakness is micro seems just incorrect. Zest is perhaps the best (other than maybe Parting) at taking maxed out engagements and controlling his army, focus firing stalkers, Immortals, colussi correctly. One thing to note is Zest's incredible ability to get the most out of each engagement and keep colossi alive for longer than any other Protoss I've seen. Here are a few video examples: - Here is a recent example against Hydra in Katowice - vs Drg, note how well he controls Colossi - here is a good example of a more creative component i agree with you, imo zest's units control is top notch | ||
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jeri
Germany335 Posts
On April 19 2015 00:59 OtherWorld wrote: List feels good, but Rain above Maru? (and even INnoVation above Maru tbh) Also that means that TaeJa is Top5. I can't wait to see the Part3 thread explode in accusations of Liquid'Bias cuz maru still hasnt won any titles, besides first starlegue.. 2 weeks back. | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On April 19 2015 03:34 jeri wrote: cuz maru still hasnt won any titles, besides first starlegue.. 2 weeks back. Maru defeated Rain in OSL s2 in 2013 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Maru Looking at Maru's accomplishments probably warrants a higher place on this list. If we compare them side to side they look a lot more impressive than Polt's | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3463 Posts
And even Swarmhosts now, though that is for other reasons. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
what zest truly excels at is army movement and positioning. he knows where to be and where to go more than any other player. he is one of the players that gets caught out of position the least, and watching him move his units around the map (to pressure, to defend, to feint, to draw into an ambush, etc) is a joy to behold. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 19 2015 03:28 Makro wrote: i agree with you, imo zest's units control is top notch I've also seen him not micro at all and lose 7 probes and msc to a scouted WM. I guess it's unfair to say its weak when I mean relatively weak to the rest of his skills. He's different from players like Parting and Maru who use their micro to pummel their opponents into submission. WIth Zest, he very rarely uses his micro skills alone to kill someone (and has never needed to). It's only a weakness when we're batting in the range of the greatest players at the time. | ||
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
On April 19 2015 03:28 Makro wrote: i agree with you, imo zest's units control is top notch Remember Life vs Super? Life > Mvp > Zest | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On April 19 2015 03:41 stuchiu wrote: I've also seen him not micro at all and lose 7 probes and msc to a scouted WM. I guess it's unfair to say its weak when I mean relatively weak to the rest of his skills. He's different from players like Parting and Maru who use their micro to pummel their opponents into submission. WIth Zest, he very rarely uses his micro skills alone to kill someone (and has never needed to). It's only a weakness when we're batting in the range of the greatest players at the time. I'm sure you could link a whole host of mistakes from any great player, including Zest. Having re-watched a lot of 2014 Gsl's last week I have a really hard time taking you opinion seriously on that matter. Then again PartinG isn't on this list | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On April 19 2015 03:41 stuchiu wrote: I've also seen him not micro at all and lose 7 probes and msc to a scouted WM. I guess it's unfair to say its weak when I mean relatively weak to the rest of his skills. He's different from players like Parting and Maru who use their micro to pummel their opponents into submission. WIth Zest, he very rarely uses his micro skills alone to kill someone (and has never needed to). It's only a weakness when we're batting in the range of the greatest players at the time. fair enough | ||
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Dumbledore
Sweden725 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On April 19 2015 03:53 Dumbledore wrote: IdrA on #1 and Stephano/Naniwa on #2/#3!?!?!??!? but what about avilo and winter? | ||
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
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