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Greatest Players of All Time: Part 2 - Page 5

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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
April 18 2015 16:58 GMT
#81
On April 19 2015 01:57 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 01:52 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:45 Yorkie wrote:
How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won? How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance? How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013? How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014? Actually know results before you say something like that


How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won?
3/4 vs winner. So worse.

How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance?
Wasn't present at WCS Season 3 finals. Maru 3/4th. So worse.

How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013?
Both Bomber and Maru 3/4th

How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014?
If you actually read my quote, I was talking about 2013, so while we're there:

All 3 had 1 win each
INno 2 silvers
INno 4 top 4, Maru 4 top 4, Bomber 2 top 4

This is before I get to all the events you ignored due to your bias

I feel I should bring up this quote again
Actually know results before you say something like that

WCS season 2 where Bomber won and Innovation and Maru went out of groups was the one right after OSL bud nice try. He did worse than Maru in OSL but the same (or better since he didn't get fucking 4-0d by Maru constantly one basing) as Innovation which was my point. Bomber and Maru both made ro4 at Blizzcon but Innvation got trunched int he ro16 by Duckdeok and Bomber put up a fight vs the eventual champ but Maru lost to Jaedong LOL. You also never specified 2013 in your original quote. Stop cherry picking results to suit your argument.


I bolded it, but go on.

Cherry pick this then

All 3 had 1 win each
INno 2 silvers
INno 4 top 4, Maru 4 top 4, Bomber 2 top 4


Nothing bomber did was anything as impressive as INno's GSL silver, or Maru's streak in the second half of the year
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
April 18 2015 16:58 GMT
#82
On April 19 2015 01:53 -HuShang- wrote:
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On April 19 2015 01:47 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:46 Yorkie wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:45 Hier wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:36 -HuShang- wrote:
Next 5:

5) Parting
4) Taeja
3) Life
2) MC
1) MVP

Well, the order may be different, but these 5 will definitely be on the list next week. There's simply nobody else.

If this is the top 5 then Polt is getting massively disrespected. if Polt is number 5 than Parting is being massively disrespected

polt is definetely in the top 5, parting isn't

parting rarely wins stuff. he isn't top 5


Parting is definitely top 5 or me and the writer are gonna have a talk ;p. If you check his results he's actually won quite a few tournaments. Also he re-defined pvt entirely, has been the longest player in code s ever, created the soul train which is probably the most famous build in sc2 history. And only recently has he actually had the chance to play in many foreign events which he's won quite a few of.

TBH though I think OP messed up somewhere cause all of the 6-7 possible candidates for top 5 should have been somewhere on this list xD.

Your joking right? DRG still holds the record for most code s runs
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16055 Posts
April 18 2015 16:59 GMT
#83
real top 15:
Mvp
Life
TaeJa
MC
MMA
Polt
NesTea
PartinG
Zest
Marineking
Bomber
Maru
INnoVation
DRG
soO
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 18 2015 16:59 GMT
#84


oh boy, love these
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
April 18 2015 16:59 GMT
#85
On April 19 2015 01:58 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 01:57 Yorkie wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:52 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:45 Yorkie wrote:
How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won? How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance? How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013? How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014? Actually know results before you say something like that


How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won?
3/4 vs winner. So worse.

How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance?
Wasn't present at WCS Season 3 finals. Maru 3/4th. So worse.

How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013?
Both Bomber and Maru 3/4th

How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014?
If you actually read my quote, I was talking about 2013, so while we're there:

All 3 had 1 win each
INno 2 silvers
INno 4 top 4, Maru 4 top 4, Bomber 2 top 4

This is before I get to all the events you ignored due to your bias

I feel I should bring up this quote again
Actually know results before you say something like that

WCS season 2 where Bomber won and Innovation and Maru went out of groups was the one right after OSL bud nice try. He did worse than Maru in OSL but the same (or better since he didn't get fucking 4-0d by Maru constantly one basing) as Innovation which was my point. Bomber and Maru both made ro4 at Blizzcon but Innvation got trunched int he ro16 by Duckdeok and Bomber put up a fight vs the eventual champ but Maru lost to Jaedong LOL. You also never specified 2013 in your original quote. Stop cherry picking results to suit your argument.


I bolded it, but go on.

Cherry pick this then

Show nested quote +
All 3 had 1 win each
INno 2 silvers
INno 4 top 4, Maru 4 top 4, Bomber 2 top 4


Nothing bomber did was anything as impressive as INno's GSL silver, or Maru's streak in the second half of the year

Scarlett 2-0 Maru Bomber 3-2 Scarlett
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 18 2015 17:01 GMT
#86
On April 19 2015 01:59 Charoisaur wrote:
real top 15:
Mvp
Life
TaeJa
MC
MMA
Polt
NesTea
PartinG
Zest
Marineking
Bomber
Maru
INnoVation
DRG
soO

Taeja on 3, LOL
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PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 17:02:30
April 18 2015 17:01 GMT
#87
On April 19 2015 01:57 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 01:52 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:45 Yorkie wrote:
How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won? How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance? How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013? How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014? Actually know results before you say something like that


How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won?
3/4 vs winner. So worse.

How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance?
Wasn't present at WCS Season 3 finals. Maru 3/4th. So worse.

How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013?
Both Bomber and Maru 3/4th

How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014?
If you actually read my quote, I was talking about 2013, so while we're there:

All 3 had 1 win each
INno 2 silvers
INno 4 top 4, Maru 4 top 4, Bomber 2 top 4

This is before I get to all the events you ignored due to your bias

I feel I should bring up this quote again
Actually know results before you say something like that

WCS season 2 where Bomber won and Innovation and Maru went out of groups was the one right after OSL bud nice try. He did worse than Maru in OSL but the same (or better since he didn't get fucking 4-0d by Maru constantly one basing) as Innovation which was my point. Bomber and Maru both made ro4 at Blizzcon but Innvation got trunched int he ro16 by Duckdeok and Bomber put up a fight vs the eventual champ but Maru lost to Jaedong LOL. You also never specified 2013 in your original quote. Stop cherry picking results to suit your argument.

Stuchiu seems to also consider innovation and influence, and I'd tend to discard Bomber because he doesn't innovate very much nor does his play have great influence on other Terrans, even when it is successful.
Taeja the one true Byunjwa~
Bloody
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden194 Posts
April 18 2015 17:02 GMT
#88
How come Rain's greatest series played is + Show Spoiler +
a 0-3 loss against Zest?
Pavel Nedved
Profile Joined April 2015
8 Posts
April 18 2015 17:02 GMT
#89
Its really quite obvious:

5.Polt
4.MC
3.Taeja
2.MVP
1.Life
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2015 17:02 GMT
#90
On April 19 2015 02:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 01:59 Charoisaur wrote:
real top 15:
Mvp
Life
TaeJa
MC
MMA
Polt
NesTea
PartinG
Zest
Marineking
Bomber
Maru
INnoVation
DRG
soO

Taeja on 3, LOL

you're right he should be 2
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 18 2015 17:03 GMT
#91
On April 19 2015 01:58 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 01:57 Yorkie wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:52 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:45 Yorkie wrote:
How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won? How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance? How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013? How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014? Actually know results before you say something like that


How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won?
3/4 vs winner. So worse.

How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance?
Wasn't present at WCS Season 3 finals. Maru 3/4th. So worse.

How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013?
Both Bomber and Maru 3/4th

How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014?
If you actually read my quote, I was talking about 2013, so while we're there:

All 3 had 1 win each
INno 2 silvers
INno 4 top 4, Maru 4 top 4, Bomber 2 top 4

This is before I get to all the events you ignored due to your bias

I feel I should bring up this quote again
Actually know results before you say something like that

WCS season 2 where Bomber won and Innovation and Maru went out of groups was the one right after OSL bud nice try. He did worse than Maru in OSL but the same (or better since he didn't get fucking 4-0d by Maru constantly one basing) as Innovation which was my point. Bomber and Maru both made ro4 at Blizzcon but Innvation got trunched int he ro16 by Duckdeok and Bomber put up a fight vs the eventual champ but Maru lost to Jaedong LOL. You also never specified 2013 in your original quote. Stop cherry picking results to suit your argument.


I bolded it, but go on.

Cherry pick this then

Show nested quote +
All 3 had 1 win each
INno 2 silvers
INno 4 top 4, Maru 4 top 4, Bomber 2 top 4


Nothing bomber did was anything as impressive as INno's GSL silver, or Maru's streak in the second half of the year

Go back a page and see that your quote says nothing about 2013 . I said arguably for 2013 for a reason. Inno and Maru would be that reason. Let's also mention that two of Inno's top four finishes were at much weaker events, particularly Northcon which should have been at least a free 2nd only if Jaedong beat him
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 18 2015 17:03 GMT
#92
Billowy should be top 5 as emperor of China
Glorious SEA doto
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 18 2015 17:04 GMT
#93
the idea of bomber and parting in a top 15 of all time is disgraceful
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 17:05:08
April 18 2015 17:04 GMT
#94
On April 19 2015 02:02 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 02:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:59 Charoisaur wrote:
real top 15:
Mvp
Life
TaeJa
MC
MMA
Polt
NesTea
PartinG
Zest
Marineking
Bomber
Maru
INnoVation
DRG
soO

Taeja on 3, LOL

you're right he should be 2

He should be first
+ Show Spoiler +
on a list which is about best HSC players
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
April 18 2015 17:05 GMT
#95
On April 19 2015 01:08 JoshSuth wrote:
There are still SIX players missing that should be in the Top 15...
herO
PartinG
MC
TaeJa
Life
Mvp

Which one didn't make the list?!



I think herO and PArtinG will miss out for Polt. herO hasnt dont anything great in Korea yet in individual leagues. He's a proleague beast though. I'm interested to see who they go for between PartinG and Polt. Soulkey is there too I guess.
No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 18 2015 17:05 GMT
#96
On April 19 2015 02:04 lichter wrote:
the idea of bomber and parting in a top 15 of all time is disgraceful

yeah man there just isn't any argument for those two over Leenock MK Rain etc
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 17:10:15
April 18 2015 17:06 GMT
#97
On April 19 2015 02:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 01:59 Charoisaur wrote:
real top 15:
Mvp
Life
TaeJa
MC
MMA
Polt
NesTea
PartinG
Zest
Marineking
Bomber
Maru
INnoVation
DRG
soO

Taeja on 3, LOL

This look more precise to me I will read now, but no words will convince me that Rain is worthy of a top 10.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 18 2015 17:06 GMT
#98
On April 19 2015 02:05 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 02:04 lichter wrote:
the idea of bomber and parting in a top 15 of all time is disgraceful

yeah man there just isn't any argument for those two over Leenock MK Rain etc


ok maybe leenock
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
April 18 2015 17:06 GMT
#99
On April 19 2015 01:59 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 01:58 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:57 Yorkie wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:52 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:45 Yorkie wrote:
How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won? How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance? How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013? How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014? Actually know results before you say something like that


How did Bomber do in that OSL that maru won?
3/4 vs winner. So worse.

How did he do at the WCS global finals right after where Maru and Innovation were in attendance?
Wasn't present at WCS Season 3 finals. Maru 3/4th. So worse.

How much farther in the tournament did Innovation and Maru get at Blizzcon 2013?
Both Bomber and Maru 3/4th

How many more events did Maru and Innovation win than him in 2014?
If you actually read my quote, I was talking about 2013, so while we're there:

All 3 had 1 win each
INno 2 silvers
INno 4 top 4, Maru 4 top 4, Bomber 2 top 4

This is before I get to all the events you ignored due to your bias

I feel I should bring up this quote again
Actually know results before you say something like that

WCS season 2 where Bomber won and Innovation and Maru went out of groups was the one right after OSL bud nice try. He did worse than Maru in OSL but the same (or better since he didn't get fucking 4-0d by Maru constantly one basing) as Innovation which was my point. Bomber and Maru both made ro4 at Blizzcon but Innvation got trunched int he ro16 by Duckdeok and Bomber put up a fight vs the eventual champ but Maru lost to Jaedong LOL. You also never specified 2013 in your original quote. Stop cherry picking results to suit your argument.


I bolded it, but go on.

Cherry pick this then

All 3 had 1 win each
INno 2 silvers
INno 4 top 4, Maru 4 top 4, Bomber 2 top 4


Nothing bomber did was anything as impressive as INno's GSL silver, or Maru's streak in the second half of the year

Scarlett 2-0 Maru Bomber 3-2 Scarlett


Maru OSL 2013 Winner , NSSL 2015 Season 1 Winner

Bomber. Code A winner once ?
No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
April 18 2015 17:07 GMT
#100
I feel like Polt is being overvalued here.
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