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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 10 2015 05:20 Fran_ wrote: Yes, I'm only interested in SC2, so please explain me why it's immature and not respectful to remove from my watch list an event that does not show it. I did not call any name. Ah sorry, I thought you meant DH as in "every DH" and not "DH:Bucharest" | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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Footler
United States560 Posts
On March 10 2015 05:08 Ctone23 wrote: We just don't have that foreign hope that everyone either loves/hates. SC2 used to be top 3 or 4 on twitch but in my opinion over time, Koreans constantly winning WCS "NA" or "EU", along with other big foreign tournaments, really spelled the end of the profitability for these companies as it relates to SC2. It's not that we don't like Koreans (this season GSL might be my favorite, minus Life's royal road in 2012), it's just that foreigners can't win anything, and it's really hard to build a fanbase off the the notion "well i'm the best foreigner, come to the tournament and watch me get ro16!". In my mind, this is why Blizzard changed WCS this year. Still, even with the changes, Koreans will still probably win NA and EU. But hey, more foreigners are at least making the live show, so that's a start. Ya but I believe viewership has stayed the same for SC2. It's just other games boomed in viewership. Correct? | ||
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Fran_
United States1024 Posts
On March 10 2015 05:22 OtherWorld wrote: Ah sorry, I thought you meant DH as in "every DH" and not "DH:Bucharest" Understood. I will also remove any other DH that does not show it of course. | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On March 10 2015 05:25 Footler wrote: Ya but I believe viewership has stayed the same for SC2. It's just other games boomed in viewership. Correct? Sc2 viewership is lower than it has been in the past. I remember when in the middle of BL-infestor era , wcs europe finals made 100k viewers. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
also they can't even write the name of the most successful multiplayer game atm. "League of Leagends" ok. | ||
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plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
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Ctone23
United States1841 Posts
On March 10 2015 05:25 Footler wrote: Ya but I believe viewership has stayed the same for SC2. It's just other games boomed in viewership. Correct? Someone else who knows the viewer counts could answer that better. In my speculation, it has dropped overall. The tournaments seem to do alright, but not necessarily great either. Big name foreigners are non-existent so you no longer see the 10-12k streams that Idra and Stephano used to have back in their hay day. That being said the twitch platform has improved a lot the past few years and i'm sure the overall viewership of twitch has exploded. | ||
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thragar
Canada450 Posts
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
On March 10 2015 03:31 Sub40APM wrote: Exactly. Its nothing to do with Blizzard design decisions, if in 98 BW came out and LoL came out there would be no talk about BW and probably no SC2 at all. Even if Blizzard imported every BW fan boy suggestion, the game would have lost out out to MOBAs anyway. Its just unfortunate that fans dont enjoy RTS as a genre anymore and prefer MOBAs -- I personally dont understand their popularity or the popularity of cardstone but I am capable of accepting the sheer numbers you see for streamed games. When StarCraft came out the bigger events were the FPS games. Quake tournaments had more interest and way bigger prizes (like $100k for first, Ferrari for first compared to SC which had $10k for first in its first two PGL tournaments) and the i2e2 circuit that replaced PGL had Quake and Broodwar, but Quake seemed to be favored there too. It wasn't until Korea happened after the KBK tournament that there was a full professional esports scene. Now there are more options and more diversity, but there is also way more money involved across the board. StarCraft 2 has had a good run and is still going and surely will at least get some bump when LotV comes out...probably nothing like the original excitement, but still it will bring some freshness to the scene. | ||
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Footler
United States560 Posts
On March 10 2015 05:28 KingAlphard wrote: Sc2 viewership is lower than it has been in the past. I remember when in the middle of BL-infestor era , wcs europe finals made 100k viewers. Okay, so after some research. Viewership is down from that era but it seems to have mostly leveled off now with global finals doing quite well. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 10 2015 04:06 TaShadan wrote: I doubt that. The player scene and their affinity to certain genres was different. I actually know a lot of oldschool players really disliking moba games. I am not saying people who were pros in BW would be pros in LoL in 98, I am saying that the fan base for LoL would dwarf BW so badly that there would be no BW culture as people know it. | ||
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Weavel
Finland9223 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On March 10 2015 06:03 Weavel wrote: Well DH is dead to me then.... But it's still going to be at DH France | ||
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TronJovolta
United States323 Posts
On March 10 2015 05:52 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Why are people so angry? It's natural for a game with lesser viewership to be replaced. People are so angry, saying things like that the newer generation are too lazy, when the simple truth is that simply put, SC2 just isn't interesting or fun enough to hold the interest of the general gaming population. That SC2 is more mechanically demanding and defeat is harsher is irrelevant. Speak for yourself, bucko. It's simple. Like, 80% of the population is retarded. Like, at least 80%. It only makes sense that a game as beautiful and challenging as SC2 won't be very popular. Just like jazz.  | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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SC2Towelie
United States561 Posts
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
On March 10 2015 06:22 SC2Towelie wrote: Letting Robert Ohlen go was that biggest fucking mistake Dreamhack could've possibly made... if Dreamhack somehow gets more viewers, more advertisements, more $$$, from choosing minecraft over SC2, then did they make a mistake? | ||
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