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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
February 09 2015 17:10 GMT
#201
On February 10 2015 01:57 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:54 pure.Wasted wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:49 Elentos wrote:
These people are gamers, they need their full mental capacity to perform.

If he can win after getting hit in the head, ST-FW can play after dicking around for a few hours.

They point wasn't that they can't, the point is that they wouldn't want to. And it's not "dicking around", it's being stuck in a tunnel for hours. When it's already late in the evening. It's utter shit to be forced to play after that.


Yes, well, it's also utter shit to not get a chance to play in the Playoffs at all, so I think ST-FW would have weighed the two shits against one another and decided that representing their team and having a 1% chance of winning is still better than not representing their team and having a 0% chance of winning.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 09 2015 17:11 GMT
#202
On February 10 2015 02:04 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 02:03 supernovamaniac wrote:
All I'm seeing here:

"Fuck the rule book, why did you go with the rule book KeSPA"

Which rule book? d:


Definitely not the WCS one.
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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
February 09 2015 17:12 GMT
#203
On February 10 2015 01:49 Growiel wrote:
it's ST's fault for not being here.



How on Earth is its Startales fault for another persons car breaking down in a tunnel, or there being an accident? Can't go forwards, can't go back. At least that was the situation as I understand it.

It's a shit happens situation, in which case there should be some lee way to allow the show to continue. Law allows for mitigating circumstance, why can't KESPA?
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Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 17:15:12
February 09 2015 17:14 GMT
#204
On February 10 2015 02:12 fruity. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:49 Growiel wrote:
it's ST's fault for not being here.



How on Earth is its Startales fault for another persons car breaking down in a tunnel, or there being an accident? Can't go forwards, can't go back. At least that was the situation as I understand it.

It's a shit happens situation, in which case there should be some lee way to allow the show to continue. Law allows for mitigating circumstance, why can't KESPA?


I just learned about the accident on reddit and edited my previous post.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 09 2015 17:21 GMT
#205
ST-YW joining Parting and Byun in Kespa jail TT.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
February 09 2015 17:22 GMT
#206
On February 10 2015 02:10 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:57 Elentos wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:54 pure.Wasted wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:49 Elentos wrote:
These people are gamers, they need their full mental capacity to perform.

If he can win after getting hit in the head, ST-FW can play after dicking around for a few hours.

They point wasn't that they can't, the point is that they wouldn't want to. And it's not "dicking around", it's being stuck in a tunnel for hours. When it's already late in the evening. It's utter shit to be forced to play after that.


Yes, well, it's also utter shit to not get a chance to play in the Playoffs at all, so I think ST-FW would have weighed the two shits against one another and decided that representing their team and having a 1% chance of winning is still better than not representing their team and having a 0% chance of winning.

As I said, this is an issue with KeSPA not being transparent enough. We don't know how long ST-Y would have taken to get to the place but I'm sure the people who made the DQ decision were fully aware. Maybe they knew that giving JAGW a map win every 30 minutes ST-Y was late would result in JAGW going 4-0 and that's why they made their call. Maybe they were focused on keeping the schedule up. Nevertheless, delaying on the same day would have been garbage. It's bad for ST-Y because they were stuck forever, and it's bad for JAGW because they were there in time and had to wait for hours. So either send the players home and reschedule the entire round, or throw out ST-Y (but in a less shitty way they did).
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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
February 09 2015 17:26 GMT
#207
Wonder if anyone was hurt in the accident? Whilst we all express our varying opinions on this, there may be mothers and fathers out there crying.. Makes you think.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
February 09 2015 17:28 GMT
#208
On February 10 2015 02:26 fruity. wrote:
Wonder if anyone was hurt in the accident? Whilst we all express our varying opinions on this, there may be mothers and fathers out there crying.. Makes you think.

I've thought about that, too. I hope nobody was hurt.
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 09 2015 17:29 GMT
#209
On February 10 2015 02:21 Yorkie wrote:
ST-YW joining Parting and Byun in Kespa jail TT.

In this case I would argue that it is Kespa who should be thrown in Kespa jail
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
February 09 2015 17:30 GMT
#210
On February 10 2015 02:11 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 02:04 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 02:03 supernovamaniac wrote:
All I'm seeing here:

"Fuck the rule book, why did you go with the rule book KeSPA"

Which rule book? d:


Definitely not the WCS one.

WCS has one?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 09 2015 17:31 GMT
#211
This is the most Kespa thing Kespa has Kespa'd in a long long time.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 09 2015 17:32 GMT
#212
On February 10 2015 02:30 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 02:11 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 10 2015 02:04 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 02:03 supernovamaniac wrote:
All I'm seeing here:

"Fuck the rule book, why did you go with the rule book KeSPA"

Which rule book? d:


Definitely not the WCS one.

WCS has one?

InCa wrote it.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13992 Posts
February 09 2015 17:34 GMT
#213
On February 10 2015 02:30 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 02:11 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 10 2015 02:04 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 02:03 supernovamaniac wrote:
All I'm seeing here:

"Fuck the rule book, why did you go with the rule book KeSPA"

Which rule book? d:


Definitely not the WCS one.

WCS has one?

Ask aeromi
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
February 09 2015 17:48 GMT
#214
On February 09 2015 19:40 Waxangel wrote:
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On February 09 2015 19:35 Jono7272 wrote:
Well that sucks

On February 09 2015 19:30 lichter wrote:
Any baseless suggestions of any... "extracurricular activities" will be moderated harshly, as per usual.

I'm not even sure what you are alluding to there.



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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
February 09 2015 17:49 GMT
#215
Sucks but what can you do, the broadcast schedule was already set in place and there wouldn't have been enough time to organize something between then and the match with CJ. Somehow cramming in a match and having a winner in the dead of night or in the morning wouldn't be fair to the winning team or CJ either who wouldn't know their opponent's line up.
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Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
February 09 2015 17:59 GMT
#216
Completely ridiculous, but what can you do I guess. Would have been nice if they could have rescheduled.

JinAir vs CJ should be a fun match but I think JinAir match up well with CJ as long as they don't let herO get on a roll, I think we're getting Jinair vs SKT in the finals for round 1
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 09 2015 18:03 GMT
#217
Kespaaaaaaa
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13992 Posts
February 09 2015 18:04 GMT
#218
On February 10 2015 02:59 Swoopae wrote:
Completely ridiculous, but what can you do I guess. Would have been nice if they could have rescheduled.

JinAir vs CJ should be a fun match but I think JinAir match up well with CJ as long as they don't let herO get on a roll, I think we're getting Jinair vs SKT in the finals for round 1

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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 18:07:39
February 09 2015 18:07 GMT
#219
On February 09 2015 19:25 SuperHofmann wrote:
Maru is late at SSL Quali: no problem
Creator is late at SSL Quali: DQ
ST is late at PL Playoffs vs Jin Air: DQ


Can someone elaborate on this? I missed the Maru/Creator bit I think, did that really happen? That's... pretty fucked up if true. Or Creator significantly later than Maru was?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 18:14:59
February 09 2015 18:11 GMT
#220
On February 10 2015 03:07 Gorlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 19:25 SuperHofmann wrote:
Maru is late at SSL Quali: no problem
Creator is late at SSL Quali: DQ
ST is late at PL Playoffs vs Jin Air: DQ


Can someone elaborate on this? I missed the Maru/Creator bit I think, did that really happen? That's... pretty fucked up if true. Or Creator significantly later than Maru was?


Jin Air called ahead of time and notified them that they were going to be late. Creator did not as far as we know. The timeline from Olivia's tweets about the situation suggested that Creator was also later than Jin Air, but not by much I think. Jin Air was on time anyway in the end I think.
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