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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 09 2015 15:50 GMT
#181
On February 10 2015 00:33 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 00:32 BisuDagger wrote:
They should have gotten out of the car and ran to the studio.


LOL Its even funnier because it may have actually worked.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
February 09 2015 16:19 GMT
#182
oh boy...

Imagine WCS being this strict.

#wcs2015handbook
The other race is OP
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 16:22:02
February 09 2015 16:20 GMT
#183
On February 10 2015 00:50 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 00:33 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 10 2015 00:32 BisuDagger wrote:
They should have gotten out of the car and ran to the studio.

https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/564755207050260481

LOL Its even funnier because it may have actually worked.


It would be a funny game. Imagine if sOs cheeses, it doesn't work, but curious refuses to kill him.
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
February 09 2015 16:21 GMT
#184
KeSPA went full retard... No one would die if the games were to be played tomorrow.
:3
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 16:22:02
February 09 2015 16:21 GMT
#185
On February 10 2015 01:20 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 00:50 royalroadweed wrote:
On February 10 2015 00:33 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 10 2015 00:32 BisuDagger wrote:
They should have gotten out of the car and ran to the studio.

https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/564755207050260481

LOL Its even funnier because it may have actually worked.


All in time.

It's all-kill format

Edit: That ninja-edit :D
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
February 09 2015 16:24 GMT
#186
Yeah, I forgot it was an all-kill format for a second there.

Oh well, we can blame Blizzard.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 09 2015 16:32 GMT
#187
lol
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Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
February 09 2015 16:38 GMT
#188
Unbelievable as usual from Kespa. Here in America, sporting events that are broadcast live frequently start behind schedule due to unforeseen circumstances, inevitable delays, and previous events going over their scheduled timeslot. How about showing a compilation of exciting round 1 highlights to pass the time for viewers until STY arrives? Or have Canata play as random on Korean GM ladder? Or any other seemingly endless entertaining possibility to fill in for the down time until the other team arrives. As others have stated, I fully agree w/ docking STY a game as penalty for being late. This is insane though, especially given how important the playoffs are in each round for season ending pts and seeding. And above all, e-sports like any other sport is ultimately about entertainment value. And this provides none.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2015 16:43 GMT
#189
On February 10 2015 01:32 Lorning wrote:
lol

Prime would have been on time D:
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TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
February 09 2015 16:48 GMT
#190
Wow that is really upsetting. Months and months of work and the underdogs get DQ'd?? That's fucking lame.
Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
February 09 2015 16:49 GMT
#191
On February 10 2015 01:21 Starecat wrote:
KeSPA went full retard... No one would die if the games were to be played tomorrow.


I may be the only one, but I'm fine with it.

They run a broadcast, they have crew, spectators, an opposing team waiting, can't make them wait forever.

30mins to complete elimination might a little harsh, maybe dock one game per 30 mins (which is about what a "good" game lasts).

As for "playing them tomorrow", well no. Tomorrow there's another match so they would have 2 choices:

1: Play both matches tomorrow, leaving no times for either CJ Entus and the winner of today's match to prepare. How's that fair for CJ to get robbed of prepare time because another team was late ? It's not.

2: Move everything one day. While that may work, the schedule is way too tight between GSL, NSSL and SPL to really do this. Unless they do an extra weekend day, but they have to pay the crew and stuff for one more day... Not fair for Spotv, it's ST's fault for not being here.
StarCraft II for ever.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
February 09 2015 16:49 GMT
#192
On February 10 2015 01:38 Orr wrote:
Unbelievable as usual from Kespa. Here in America, sporting events that are broadcast live frequently start behind schedule due to unforeseen circumstances, inevitable delays, and previous events going over their scheduled timeslot. How about showing a compilation of exciting round 1 highlights to pass the time for viewers until STY arrives? Or have Canata play as random on Korean GM ladder? Or any other seemingly endless entertaining possibility to fill in for the down time until the other team arrives. As others have stated, I fully agree w/ docking STY a game as penalty for being late. This is insane though, especially given how important the playoffs are in each round for season ending pts and seeding. And above all, e-sports like any other sport is ultimately about entertainment value. And this provides none.

Yeah I'm sure ST-Y would be thrilled to play a best of 7 series after being stuck in a car for an hour or more. And JAGW probably couldn't be happier to play the series after waiting at the Nexon Arena for hours. Seriously, no. Delaying is unacceptable. These people are gamers, they need their full mental capacity to perform. You think an ace match in a best of 7 at midnight Korean time will work? No.

I could understand the outrage if ST-Y had arrived moments later, but apparently they were still stuck in the tunnel when the broadcast went offline. That leaves KeSPA with 2 choices: DQ or reschedule. They went with the easy way. The problem isn't the decision, the decision is totally acceptable, even though everyone was looking forward to the match. The problem is that the whole situation was handled poorly and without transparency.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
February 09 2015 16:49 GMT
#193
KESPAAAAAAA
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
February 09 2015 16:51 GMT
#194
Lmao kespa is so dumb. So unpredictable weather and car accidents don't warrant a team to be justifiably late? Dunno how kespa can even rationalize DQing a team for such an important match when they did not do anything wrong.
JD, need I say more? :D
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 16:54:45
February 09 2015 16:54 GMT
#195
On February 10 2015 01:49 Elentos wrote:
These people are gamers, they need their full mental capacity to perform.


[image loading]

If he can win after getting hit in the head, ST-FW can play after dicking around for a few hours.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
February 09 2015 16:57 GMT
#196
On February 10 2015 01:54 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:49 Elentos wrote:
These people are gamers, they need their full mental capacity to perform.

If he can win after getting hit in the head, ST-FW can play after dicking around for a few hours.

They point wasn't that they can't, the point is that they wouldn't want to. And it's not "dicking around", it's being stuck in a tunnel for hours. When it's already late in the evening. It's utter shit to be forced to play after that.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 16:59:29
February 09 2015 16:58 GMT
#197
On February 10 2015 01:49 Growiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:21 Starecat wrote:
KeSPA went full retard... No one would die if the games were to be played tomorrow.


I may be the only one, but I'm fine with it.

They run a broadcast, they have crew, spectators, an opposing team waiting, can't make them wait forever.

30mins to complete elimination might a little harsh, maybe dock one game per 30 mins (which is about what a "good" game lasts).

As for "playing them tomorrow", well no. Tomorrow there's another match so they would have 2 choices:

1: Play both matches tomorrow, leaving no times for either CJ Entus and the winner of today's match to prepare. How's that fair for CJ to get robbed of prepare time because another team was late ? It's not.

2: Move everything one day. While that may work, the schedule is way too tight between GSL, NSSL and SPL to really do this. Unless they do an extra weekend day, but they have to pay the crew and stuff for one more day... Not fair for Spotv, it's ST's fault for not being here.


No, that's right. Instead of making their crew, spectators and the opposing team waiting, they made their time completely worthless. Clearly better than make them wait!

Still not ST's fault, they aren't responsible of anything here. Jeesh...
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
February 09 2015 17:03 GMT
#198
All I'm seeing here:

"Fuck the rule book, why did you go with the rule book KeSPA"
ppp
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 09 2015 17:04 GMT
#199
On February 10 2015 02:03 supernovamaniac wrote:
All I'm seeing here:

"Fuck the rule book, why did you go with the rule book KeSPA"

Which rule book? d:
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Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 17:13:52
February 09 2015 17:05 GMT
#200
On February 10 2015 01:58 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:49 Growiel wrote:
On February 10 2015 01:21 Starecat wrote:
KeSPA went full retard... No one would die if the games were to be played tomorrow.


I may be the only one, but I'm fine with it.

They run a broadcast, they have crew, spectators, an opposing team waiting, can't make them wait forever.

30mins to complete elimination might a little harsh, maybe dock one game per 30 mins (which is about what a "good" game lasts).

As for "playing them tomorrow", well no. Tomorrow there's another match so they would have 2 choices:

1: Play both matches tomorrow, leaving no times for either CJ Entus and the winner of today's match to prepare. How's that fair for CJ to get robbed of prepare time because another team was late ? It's not.

2: Move everything one day. While that may work, the schedule is way too tight between GSL, NSSL and SPL to really do this. Unless they do an extra weekend day, but they have to pay the crew and stuff for one more day... Not fair for Spotv, it's ST's fault for not being here.


No, that's right. Instead of making their crew, spectators and the opposing team waiting, they made their time completely worthless. Clearly better than make them wait!

Still not ST's fault, they aren't responsible of anything here. Jeesh...


Well I was in the studio today, as I will tomorrow, and I prefered being able to leave after 30 mins than wait forever for a team that would ultimatly not show up or would show up so late that it would be impossible to get back home (subway stops aroung 1am in Seoul, taxi is too expensive as I have more than 1 hour of travel time to get there).

Also, it started showing around 2pm here, more than enough time to plan ahead, it wasn't a "sudden" storm or anything. I went to the city at 3pm the traffic was already bad and it was not rush hour yet.

So yeah, the weather screwed them over and it sucks, but they are not 100% blameless, next time they'll plan more time.

EDIT: Apparently it's not due to the bad weather as stated in Legend's tweet but because of an accident in a tunnel. Maybe they left on time but they indeed couldn't shit about that.
I still think that KeSPA's decision in fair for everybody else, but you can't blame ST anymore, just blame whoever you like to blame when bad things happen for no reason.
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