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Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
January 27 2015 18:52 GMT
#61
On January 28 2015 03:17 Stabillo wrote:
ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.

Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !

Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.

Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.

Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...


The only way to fix a botched draw is to redraw. They're doing to correct thing. The only fair thing. That isn't the problem. The problem is it being needed in the first place.

I can guarantee you that if somehow FIFA cocked up the World Cup drawings, that they *would* redraw. If they didn't, *then* they'd catch a lot of flack from the member nations and public.
Trizztein
Profile Joined August 2014
Canada45 Posts
January 27 2015 18:55 GMT
#62
Great thing. Another chance for Naniwa and Kane to get in same group. Plz be so!!
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
January 27 2015 18:55 GMT
#63
When Nathanias pulled Naniwa's card out, the back of it was clearly marked, where the others did not appear to be marked(I could be wrong about that but I payed attention and did not see another card marked). That alone merits a redraw in my opinion. I understand the admin was tired and i'm sure Nathanias was too, but, people are trying to make a living off of this tournament, quit fucking around!
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
January 27 2015 18:56 GMT
#64
So the reason is because fuck naniwa
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Wijnruit
Profile Joined October 2014
Brazil294 Posts
January 27 2015 19:02 GMT
#65
On January 28 2015 03:07 Boucot wrote:
All they need is this guy.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


This guy is amazing! He should be in every draw ever from now on in ESL.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17741 Posts
January 27 2015 19:03 GMT
#66
so any idea when they're doing this redraw? not sure if I should post the IEM Taipei WCS Predictor preview before or after the redraw lol
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Wijnruit
Profile Joined October 2014
Brazil294 Posts
January 27 2015 19:05 GMT
#67
On January 28 2015 03:52 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 03:17 Stabillo wrote:
ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.

Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !

Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.

Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.

Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...


The only way to fix a botched draw is to redraw. They're doing to correct thing. The only fair thing. That isn't the problem. The problem is it being needed in the first place.

I can guarantee you that if somehow FIFA cocked up the World Cup drawings, that they *would* redraw. If they didn't, *then* they'd catch a lot of flack from the member nations and public.


Actually, if I recall correctly, someone (I think it was Jeròme Walcke) messed up in the live draw for the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2013, I don't remember exactly what they did to fix it, but they surely didn't remake the draw.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
January 27 2015 19:08 GMT
#68
Its good they do this. Last draw would have been unfair.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 27 2015 19:08 GMT
#69
On January 28 2015 04:03 Die4Ever wrote:
so any idea when they're doing this redraw? not sure if I should post the IEM Taipei WCS Predictor preview before or after the redraw lol

Well the OP indicates that's it's around 00:00 GMT
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Supersamu
Profile Joined November 2014
Germany296 Posts
January 27 2015 19:14 GMT
#70
On January 28 2015 04:05 Wijnruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 03:52 Thax wrote:
On January 28 2015 03:17 Stabillo wrote:
ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.

Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !

Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.

Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.

Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...


The only way to fix a botched draw is to redraw. They're doing to correct thing. The only fair thing. That isn't the problem. The problem is it being needed in the first place.

I can guarantee you that if somehow FIFA cocked up the World Cup drawings, that they *would* redraw. If they didn't, *then* they'd catch a lot of flack from the member nations and public.


Actually, if I recall correctly, someone (I think it was Jeròme Walcke) messed up in the live draw for the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2013, I don't remember exactly what they did to fix it, but they surely didn't remake the draw.


I can't believe they didn't:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/12/01/uk-soccer-confederations-idUKBRE8B009920121201
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 27 2015 19:15 GMT
#71
On January 28 2015 04:03 Die4Ever wrote:
so any idea when they're doing this redraw? not sure if I should post the IEM Taipei WCS Predictor preview before or after the redraw lol

Should be tonight.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17741 Posts
January 27 2015 19:18 GMT
#72
On January 28 2015 04:08 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 04:03 Die4Ever wrote:
so any idea when they're doing this redraw? not sure if I should post the IEM Taipei WCS Predictor preview before or after the redraw lol

Well the OP indicates that's it's around 00:00 GMT

Just before IEM Taipei? I guess that works out, too bad I forgot to turn on my home pc before I went to work lol, my laptop will do the job but it's quite a bit slower.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 19:22:11
January 27 2015 19:21 GMT
#73
Re-draw until Kane and Naniwa are in the same group :p
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SlammerSC2
Profile Joined April 2013
77 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 19:31:26
January 27 2015 19:30 GMT
#74
Naniwa causing problems even while not playing. Old news

Maybe Naniwa, Kane, Snute, HuK group?
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 27 2015 19:35 GMT
#75
Finally!

Where's that prick who was calling us idiots for saying there needed to be a redraw?
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 19:44:32
January 27 2015 19:44 GMT
#76
On January 28 2015 04:35 Larkin wrote:
Finally!

Where's that prick who was calling us idiots for saying there needed to be a redraw?


That feeling of vindication when people called you an idiot and you were right all along.



ggwp
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
January 27 2015 19:50 GMT
#77
On January 28 2015 04:44 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 04:35 Larkin wrote:
Finally!

Where's that prick who was calling us idiots for saying there needed to be a redraw?


That feeling of vindication when people called you an idiot and you were right all along.



ggwp

Maphacks maphacks!
How did he know!?!?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Kenobii
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada35 Posts
January 27 2015 19:55 GMT
#78
The groups will be redrawn today.

ESL post
"Your focus, needs more focus..."
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
January 27 2015 19:57 GMT
#79
yep re-draw happens at 23:00 CET and this is the stream http://www.twitch.tv/WCS
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
January 27 2015 19:59 GMT
#80
On January 28 2015 04:57 Musicus wrote:
yep re-draw happens at 23:00 CET and this is the stream http://www.twitch.tv/WCS

Haha so now we have 3 channels to follow on Twitch.
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