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Matchfixing is a very serious offence and accusations of matchfixing should not be made lightly. Please avoid making accusations against specific individuals unless you have substantial proof, or until further information is released. (0620 KST) | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On January 21 2015 05:53 Clonester wrote: Roundabout 100k$ last year isnt the big salary you think off. Its not even 10k per month and with match fixing you can easily gain 2-5k... in one day, save. 10k in a month is a lot of money. | ||
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just_mo
United States23 Posts
And 2k in 15m is some sort of hourly rate. | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
People should stfu if there is no real evidence. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On January 21 2015 05:55 just_mo wrote: And 2k in 15m is some sort of hourly rate. 2k in 15minutes+destroy your entire career as a bonus. | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
If we are just going to accuse things without evidence, I can say that Pinnacle notice some big bets were made on Dark and there would be huge payouts, so they decide to pull this stunt to avoid paying. Just saying. | ||
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Redrot
United States446 Posts
On January 21 2015 05:53 just_mo wrote: If you had any doubt, look no further than Soler saying he was offered 2k to throw a game. Source? I never heard anything about it, and am curious. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On January 21 2015 05:56 Keeemy wrote: Wtf is Pinnacle? Never heard of it... T__T People should stfu if there is no real evidence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacle_Sports If you don't bet or live in the US then you don't know, but that's a poor reason to dismiss them completely. On January 21 2015 05:58 Redrot wrote: Source? I never heard anything about it, and am curious. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/450607-solar-received-an-offer-to-fix-a-game Edit: I haven't read this in a while, notice that KeSPA even states that other players and teams have been approached to throw games? Crazy stuff, and that was 8 months ago. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On January 21 2015 05:58 Redrot wrote: Source? I never heard anything about it, and am curious. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/450607-solar-received-an-offer-to-fix-a-game | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On January 21 2015 05:58 Redrot wrote: Source? I never heard anything about it, and am curious. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/450607-solar-received-an-offer-to-fix-a-game | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
On January 21 2015 05:56 RaFox17 wrote: 2k in 15minutes+destroy your entire career as a bonus. And threaten most of your closest friends career as well. Can you fucking stop just_mo. Do you really just want to see a guy you haven't mets life get ruined without any proof whatsoever? San even said he has been to the hospital, it should be stupidly easy to check if that's true. And Dark is playing really well now. San losing that game is no surprise. He did some mistakes but who doesn't do that. | ||
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FrvPssn
France402 Posts
I get that you guys have a lot of knowledge about betting, we haven't got a clue, but IMHO you should just gtfo and do your marketing somewhere else. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12422 Posts
That makes sense. | ||
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Redrot
United States446 Posts
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On January 21 2015 05:59 Rocket-Bear wrote: And threaten most of your closest friends career as well. Can you fucking stop just_mo. Do you really just want to see a guy you haven't mets life get ruined without any proof whatsoever? San even said he has been to the hospital, it should be stupidly easy to check if that's true. And Dark is playing really well now. San losing that game is no surprise. He did some mistakes but who doesn't do that. If San is innocent, its does suck for him, but in all honestly the greater danger is the integrity of the competition. That has been called into question by Pinnalce, and as fans of the sport, we should insist that this matter get a great deal of attention. Everyone is SC2 will have their livelihood ruined if fans don't believe in the sanctity of the competition. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On January 21 2015 06:05 Nebuchad wrote: ITT a bunch of people decide not to make their minds on stuff without seeing proof, and a small amount of people claim in return that the others are naive for not having inconditional trust in things they can't see. That makes sense. Sorry for thinking San is a honest person, I guess have to have the opinion everyone is out for a quick buck? | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
Is there a strange betting pattern? Yes, Pinnacle says so. Is there evidence (and I am saying ACTUAL EVIDENCE, not conjecture) that the match was fixed, let alone that San in particular was payed to throw the game? No, nothing indicates that. So people should really stop talking shit on San for no reason whatsoever. It's fucking innocent until proved guilty, not the opposite. Besides, that's not our job to investigate on this, it's KeSPA's. On January 21 2015 06:05 boxerfred wrote: This thread needs a mod note. It seriously does. | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On January 21 2015 06:08 OtherWorld wrote: This thread is a huge mess. Is there a strange betting pattern? Yes, Pinnacle says so. Is there evidence (and I am saying ACTUAL EVIDENCE, not conjecture) that the match was fixed, let alone that San in particular was payed to throw the game? No, nothing indicates that. So people should really stop talking shit on San for no reason whatsoever. It's fucking innocent until proved guilty, not the opposite. Besides, that's not our job to investigate on this, it's KeSPA's. It seriously does. http://www.pinnaclesports.com/en/notice/esports-statement?ito=twitter Pinnacle said that the match "was not played on a fair basis" What could that mean other than players were involved? The math adds up to San threw the match. He's the one person that could control this outcome. At this point I think the onus is on him and KESPA to show that he didn't. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
I second that wholeheartedly. | ||
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Xinzoe
Korea (South)2373 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:47 Nebuchad wrote: So? What's unbelievable about what I said? It happens reasonably often, actually it happened in the last game of Soulkey vs San in GSL a few days ago... But does san often nexus first? | ||
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