EPTNaNiwa vs The World: The Icon and the Pariah - Page 28
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
Oh. Moving on, I really want to see if Naniwa can deal with swarm hosts. I don't know much about Nerchio's sh usage, but I haven't seen many protoss that can reliably deal with sh that doesn't turn into the biggest snorefest ever. I do not want to see Nerchio go sh every game. If I wanted to be in a coma, I could think of easier and less painful ways. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On January 19 2015 10:39 TheNewEra wrote: This thread has everything. Naniwa, Nerchio, other pros, bad grammar insults, drama, rap skills :D I don't really like Naniwa but damn, this forum feels so alive right now :-O And this is exactly what I meant with my previous post, On January 19 2015 08:34 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: I agree its not build on drama, but the drama will attract more attention. When rivalries and grudges occur, the games become more entertaining. Dana White understands how the drama can bring in more viewers; he signed Brock Lesnar for that very reason. Of course, the fighter/player has to have the skills necessary to enter the octagon/sit behind the screen. I enjoy watching Naniwa because he is a beast at this game, but also because I want to see someone stomp him. Is drama necessary to garner more attention? No. Will drama garner more attention? Yes. I am not saying Starcraft 2 needs players like Naniwa and Idra, but when we do have these kinds of characters it makes the games more enjoyable. To Naniwa, I wish you the best of luck, and I truly hope you make it to Premier league. I also hope that you get floor stomped in the Challenger league. You are the only player that I will cheer and jeer. Keep on doing what you are doing. I am glad you are back. Naniwa is the only player that can generate this much buzz by himself. Sure some players have history against certain opponents (Huk vs Hyun, Bomber vs Polt, Scarlett vs Parting), but Naniwa himself generates so much buzz it doesn't matter who he plays against. But playing against Nerchio makes this match all the more exciting. I want to see 5 games of absolute awesomeness, and i will be happy if Naniwa loses or wins. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
On January 19 2015 10:32 radscorpion9 wrote: I'm interested in why the author "wouldn't have it any other way" with regards to who Naniwa is. This directly implies that he finds value and importance in the negativity, intense flaming, and emotional drama Naniwa creates, which is actually a pretty shocking statement on its own. Now I would agree that drama can be pretty exciting, just like a TV show, but when its all said and done I think the world is a better place without Naniwa's acerbic personality. The thing is, even if the drama he creates sounds bad, its drama that is actually good for the game. Like, for example, maybe ESL (or dreamhack) made better their soudproffing after naniwa statements. After the probe rush thing, GSL stopped having playings playing stupid unnecessary matches. And the other stuff, yeh, maybe it sounds bad, but it generates hype, viewers, passion, storylines etc. He really hans't done anythhing really bad like match fixing or anything, and so, i also wouldn't have it any other way. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On January 19 2015 10:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote: also if naniwa somehow beats king artur i hope he faces polt in the round of 32 and he sends him to retirement, racking up that kill count for polt to 3. Seems less interesting if it's a repeat kill though | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On January 19 2015 10:58 Shellshock wrote: Seems less interesting if it's a repeat kill though yeah true, polt needs to step up his foreigner career ending game. wouldn't be surprised if scarlett was next tbh | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On January 19 2015 10:58 Shellshock wrote: Seems less interesting if it's a repeat kill though That makes it more interesting for me | ||
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Penev
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Boy, you guys are fatalistic | ||
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moofang
508 Posts
On January 19 2015 13:59 Dodgin wrote: I've really missed threads like this, It's so good to have Naniwa back. As ironic as that might sound I can't agree more. Just like old times ^^ | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
As for me, I had hoped people like him and Idra left the scene altogether. People like them are just toxic. | ||
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Blargh
United States2104 Posts
On January 19 2015 15:40 maartendq wrote: I actually wonder whether age correlates to whether someone likes Naniwa or not. I can imagine teenagers liking his 'rebellious' attitude but (working) adults being annoyed by his constant unprofessionalism and childish behaviour. As for me, I had hoped people like him and Idra left the scene altogether. People like them are just toxic. It's that "toxicity" that keeps e-sports interesting. If I had to guess, Naniwa and Idra are two of the biggest contributors to the Starcraft 2 scene. If you are interested, I am 21 years old, and I care far less about personalities than many people do. I care way more about skill and actual talent, which is why I liked Idra and Naniwa. Both were stubborn as hell, and both were genuine competitors. | ||
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tar
Germany991 Posts
On January 19 2015 15:40 maartendq wrote: I actually wonder whether age correlates to whether someone likes Naniwa (or Idra, for that matter) or not. I can imagine teenagers liking his 'rebellious' attitude but (working) adults being annoyed by his constant unprofessionalism and childish behaviour. As for me, I had hoped people like him and Idra left the scene altogether. People like them are just toxic. It might be the other way round though: Youngsters take things way to seriously, while ppl a little older become more relaxed and just enjoy the show without fearing for sc2 and the integrity of all eSports to break down  | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On January 19 2015 10:59 ninazerg wrote: I always stuck behind NaNiWa, and he'd pretty much have to throw a baby in front of a moving train for me to stop being a fan. He's awesome. I dunno about that. Maybe the baby tweeted something objectionable on Twitter. So then NaNiwa would be perfectly justified in throwing the baby in front of the train. I hope NaNiwa doesn't just lose to Nerchio if only because that would be really anticlimactic. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On January 19 2015 15:45 Blargh wrote: It's that "toxicity" that keeps e-sports interesting. If I had to guess, Naniwa and Idra are two of the biggest contributors to the Starcraft 2 scene. If you are interested, I am 21 years old, and I care far less about personalities than many people do. I care way more about skill and actual talent, which is why I liked Idra and Naniwa. Both were stubborn as hell, and both were genuine competitors. Idra (and all foreign ex-BW pros) got pushed into irrelevance as soon as they could no longer use their BW mechanics to their advantage and other people caught up. Naniwa definitely had the skill and the perseverance to compete even with the top Koreans, but he was far from the only one. Thorzain, Scarlett, Huk, and Stephano were on the same level as well, and had far more pleasant personalities. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On January 19 2015 16:05 Cascade wrote: I think it correlates with socioeconomic factors. Street credit gangsters won't be upset by his behaviour. Snobbish academics will. I'm sorry but I can't help but notice you just said "street credit gangsters" | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On January 19 2015 15:45 Blargh wrote: It's that "toxicity" that keeps e-sports interesting. If I had to guess, Naniwa and Idra are two of the biggest contributors to the Starcraft 2 scene. If you are interested, I am 21 years old, and I care far less about personalities than many people do. I care way more about skill and actual talent, which is why I liked Idra and Naniwa. Both were stubborn as hell, and both were genuine competitors. Well, I guess it's the eternal skill vs drama debate. I personally don't think that that "toxicity" is good for the scene, I think a scene is healthy when the players' skill is high and their drama low (compare the NA pro scene with the KR one), but apparently many do think the other way. | ||
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