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Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
January 14 2015 15:43 GMT
#481
I personally have no problem with paying for Code S/Code A, I think $15 is a really sweet deal.
However I can see that people don't like it that the non-subscribers are this worse off. It would be nice to have a simple solution soon. Maybe they can up the quality and make normal accessible or upload/stream also on Youtube/Azubu or something.

Still, Wolf is making a fair point: the way the world works is that if you like an idea, you should be prepared to at least throw some money at it when you're an adult. I feel bad for people who can't pay for twitch subscriptions because of different reasons, but the past three matchdays I see a lot of people subscribing to the stream and everytime it happens I feel a little better for the future of SC2.
[Terran] mvp | maru | innovation | mma [Protoss] mc | squirtle [Zerg] nestea | soo
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
January 14 2015 15:57 GMT
#482
This only hit the front page of TL now. I bet Gom isn't going to change anything either. Can we complain to Blizzard?
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
January 14 2015 16:12 GMT
#483
You can watch all GSL vods on youku and sometimes on youtube, but it will either be in Chinese or Vietnamese.

I know the language so it isn't a problem for me, but you can always mute and play music or something.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
January 14 2015 16:16 GMT
#484
here's a wild fucking idea. Have ESL take over. Like they did with the NA scene.
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
resfirestar
Profile Joined January 2012
United States109 Posts
January 14 2015 16:20 GMT
#485
On January 15 2015 01:12 EngrishTeacher wrote:
You can watch all GSL vods on youku and sometimes on youtube, but it will either be in Chinese or Vietnamese.

I know the language so it isn't a problem for me, but you can always mute and play music or something.

The GOM eXP Korea youtube channel has always been free. I still prefer having the games cast in an understandable language.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
January 14 2015 16:25 GMT
#486
Nah Korean Casters are totally fine. With the aaaah and oooohs and GEEEGEEE you understand 70% of what they talk about.

I watch GSL in korean atm because there is no alternative. Shure, I subbed last season, before the semis, because the whole season was great. I could have done it this season, but not when I have to watch in low for so long. And I dont pay for products that will get maybe in the future. Maybe they cancel medium for subs too, who knows.

SSL and SPL are much more viewer friendly, both to subs and frees and thus they are my main part of Starcraft II experience. Mabye I watch some games of WCS when Hydra, Polt and FORGG play out the semis. And weekenders. That will it be for now, because GOM is just giving its viewers a high five. In the Face. With a crowbar.
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Yoshirou_Iba
Profile Joined January 2013
Paraguay37 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 16:36:08
January 14 2015 16:35 GMT
#487
.... nevermind
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
January 14 2015 16:55 GMT
#488
At least audio quality seems to be good ._.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
January 14 2015 16:59 GMT
#489
On January 15 2015 01:20 resfirestar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 01:12 EngrishTeacher wrote:
You can watch all GSL vods on youku and sometimes on youtube, but it will either be in Chinese or Vietnamese.

I know the language so it isn't a problem for me, but you can always mute and play music or something.

The GOM eXP Korea youtube channel has always been free. I still prefer having the games cast in an understandable language.


Oh nice, just checked out the channel, I actually prefer Korean over English, Korean casters are just so much more passionate.

A bit difficult to find the games you want though, everything is in Korean with no spoilers.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
January 14 2015 17:28 GMT
#490
GOM was always like this, they like to make us look like fools.
Even their so called "HD streams" back in the day were crap.
RIP MKP
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 17:40:53
January 14 2015 17:38 GMT
#491
On January 15 2015 01:59 EngrishTeacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 01:20 resfirestar wrote:
On January 15 2015 01:12 EngrishTeacher wrote:
You can watch all GSL vods on youku and sometimes on youtube, but it will either be in Chinese or Vietnamese.

I know the language so it isn't a problem for me, but you can always mute and play music or something.

The GOM eXP Korea youtube channel has always been free. I still prefer having the games cast in an understandable language.


Oh nice, just checked out the channel, I actually prefer Korean over English, Korean casters are just so much more passionate.

A bit difficult to find the games you want though, everything is in Korean with no spoilers.


You can readt he round, the group letter, then the first number is the game number in a match, and the last number in the name of the video is the match number.

32-----B------3----1

--- are korean nonsense ( ^o^), so it would be round of 32, group B, third game of the first match. So you want to watch 1----1 , then 2---1, then 3---1 and then 1----2, 2----2 etc.
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 17:49:30
January 14 2015 17:48 GMT
#492
back to the good ol' 2011 days where we only had low quality available for non-subs (+ gom player).
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Moxx82
Profile Joined August 2011
United States53 Posts
January 14 2015 18:52 GMT
#493
I tried tuning in Hurt my eyes on low quality. Tried to go to medium and it said I needed to subscribe. I finished watching that match and then left and havent been back. Won't be going back to low quality streams either.

Side note: i've tried to watch 2 dingit showmatches. Both skipped audio and video the whole time no matter what quality i tried to use.

It's sad that stream quality and VOD systems were BETTER, and are now getting worse instead of progressing.
top 3 (sphincter) control
Jeremy Reimer
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1112 Posts
January 14 2015 19:02 GMT
#494
I've paid for access to GOM since Tasteless was casting Brood War, and I'm happy to continue to do so. It's worth it just to get VOD access, and to support Tasteless and Artosis (and Baby Tosis!)

Having said that, live streams should be free and at least Medium quality.

"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." -- Carl Sagan
Siphyo
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
January 14 2015 19:04 GMT
#495
I had the opportunity to watch the GSL today, and I thought the 480p quality was just fine, especially considered that it is FREE. Then again, if Blizzard prescribes that they should be offering 720p for free then there is no excuse for them to not do so. All the other complaints I see in this thread ("couldn't see shit", "eyes 'r hurt") make no sense to me. Either these people are incredibly spoiled, or they have terrible (or super amazing?) eyesight.
HSY - KMK - Hyomin - Yoona - Sojin | NesTea - DRG - Puzzle - Bomber - NANIWA
hfsrj
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany166 Posts
January 14 2015 19:04 GMT
#496
I must say they improved the vod system on twich, its not as bad as it was.
And GSL is usually good value for money.
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
January 14 2015 19:06 GMT
#497
On January 15 2015 04:04 Siphyo wrote:
I had the opportunity to watch the GSL today, and I thought the 480p quality was just fine, especially considered that it is FREE. Then again, if Blizzard prescribes that they should be offering 720p for free then there is no excuse for them to not do so. All the other complaints I see in this thread ("couldn't see shit", "eyes 'r hurt") make no sense to me. Either these people are incredibly spoiled, or they have terrible (or super amazing?) eyesight.


its 360p. 480p is behind a paywall.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
January 14 2015 19:33 GMT
#498
On January 15 2015 00:57 geokilla wrote:
Can we complain to Blizzard?


Is the only place to complain.

SSL give more value than gsl to the sc2 scene. so they deserve more support (more wcs points) from blizzard.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
January 14 2015 19:47 GMT
#499
Man I haven't stayed awake to watch the live stream. Usually I'm super pumped to stay awake (especially for GSL since their vods have sucked for awhile now). But I'm not so excited to watch 360p at 3am... So I fall asleep. Watch the first game of each set off of their youtube page. Check results. It sucks, but it's what I've found to be the most pleasing.
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
Beyond Magic
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland130 Posts
January 14 2015 20:10 GMT
#500
I guess Tastosis doesn't come cheap + the rest of the staff/equipment for english broadcast.
gg
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