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[S2SL Preview] Scarlett carries the foreign torch

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[S2SL Preview] Scarlett carries the foreign torch

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December 17th, 2014 17:33 GMT
2014 WCS

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Day 2 Preview: TY for coming, Scarlett!

Thursday, Dec 18 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

by Heartland and Brindled

If the esteemed fellows from Day 1 of this tournament were players that could use their performances to redeem themselves, the players that face off against each other on Day 2 are mostly names that could potentially make it to the end of the tournament. (T)Flash, (Z)Life, and (Z)Solar are all names that command significant clout; it is hard to see the winners from these matches not ending up in the playoffs, given their reputations. Who ends up participating in the final matches of this tournament could very well be decided here from these 3 unassuming TvZ’s. On the Terran side of the house, Flash’s victory could signal another great run like in HSC X. But Flash’s exeunt on Day 2 would be just another disappointing reminder of his not-so-stellar results in Starcraft II to the adherents of the God-Terran. I even risk mortal sin by just writing that. On the Swarm's side, the likes of (Z)Rogue and potentially (Z)Leenock or (Z)ByuL (if they make it through) would have to pick up the slack for Zerg’s chances if Solar and Life are knocked out, as a large chunk of the tournament’s Zerg power presence will be gone.

It's also been over 20 months since a foreigner last fought Koreans on their home turf. Back then it was (Z)Stephano who made it through Up and Down Matches but left Korea and his spot in the ro32 before he could play. Foreigner history in Korea was a bleak affair even before Stephano, with notable exceptions being (P)NaNiwa's double ro8 runs. It was only at the start of Starcraft II that non-Koreans were able to seriously challenge the masters of E-Sports. Now, it is time again for one of the great foreign hopes to try and achieve fame and glory in Korea: Sasha '(Z)Scarlett' Hostyn of Team Acer.

Foreigners have been doing better in 2014 than in 2013 much in part due to Scarlett and a few other choice players, and so it makes perfect sense for her to be given a spot in the SSL. She has had a year full of victories and good showings against some of the best Koreans. However, her career has also been marred by unexpected losses and setbacks to players considered weaker than her. We can only assume that the other invited unnamed foreigner (who wasn't able to participate) was (Z)Snute, who appears to be the only other non-Korean able to compete at the highest levels of play.

One of the greatest threats in Korea is not the players but rather nerves. (P)MaNa said that his hands were shaking so much when he was playing in the GSL that he almost couldn't use his mouse. Scarlett has beforehand expressed, in her usual sardonic tone, doubt about her own chances since she plays worse when she has a lot of expectations on her. Can she keep her cool?

In (T)KT_TY, Scarlett has a formidable opponent who exemplifies the new strategical depth that Terran brings to the table. TY is in the shadow of KT Rolster's ace Flash but has been instrumental in the teams Proleague victory. He plays aggressively and creatively. Against (Z)Dark a few months ago he stomped the SKT T1 zerg through - among other things - a barracks floated from low ground to high ground which allowed him to wall in his marines and cripple Dark enough to smash him in the late game. TY is no (P)Has or (P)sOs who rely on bizarre plots and heavy investment in early game assaults but plays a more lean style which leads from his aggressive openings into strong macro play.

Scarlett has similarly started to favour more unorthodox openings with proxy hatches and other wild (Z)CatZ-esque shenanigans. She herself has proclaimed that she's lost hope in the macro ling-bling-muta style against terran and is forced into new ways of strategizing in the battle against humanity. It's not unlikely that their games will come down to a wild array of build orders interacting in chaotic ways where quick thinking and decision making will be the most important skills to have.

No matter how many times the argument that it is strange to cheer for someone just because they belong to the nebulous "foreigner" (meaning usually: western and white) world is repeated and no matter how much sense the argument makes there will still be armies of fans tuning in to see her play in Korea because she is a foreigner. This is the test of the best: can you survive in the hardest leagues against the hardest opponents? If Scarlett can, then she'll reclaim that coveted position in the foreigner world where it's not strange to believe that she can beat someone like (T)Bomber, or someone like (P)PartinG. Then she will truly be one of the world's greatest and will once more inspire hope that foreigners are not just some gimmicky mascots to the real players of the game.

The first match of the day pits the Dreamhack Stockholm winner, (Z)Samsung_Solar, against the IEM Katowice runner up, (T)SKT_Dream. While Solar is strong zerg player whose talents shine brightly more so in ZvP, his ZvT unfortunately isn’t so sweet. On a redeeming note, his last major tournament run at Dreamhack Winter ended at the hands of (T)ForGG, who would turn out to be the tournament’s champion. Furthermore, his last two games against terran were wins against (T)Apocalypse on maps that statistically favor terran. His opponent, Dream, in contrast hasn’t been doing so hot against Zerg as of late. In both GSL Code A and the Proleague, he has lost 7 out of 10 games against zerg opponents and most noticeably (and most recently) against Solar himself. Given the players’ recent match against each other, combined with Dream’s lack of 1v1 tournament games under his belt compared to his opponent, this match may well favor Solar.

The day’s 2nd TvZ will feature a clash of titans, with (Z)ST_Life facing off against (T)KT_Flash. Life, fresh from his WCS title and 2nd place Dreamhack finish is probably raring for a chance at another high placing finish. Consistently defeating (T)TaeJa at both Blizzcon and twice at the most recent Dreamhack puts Life in a very strong position both play-wise and mentally against Terran. His opponent however, is a deity is Flash. The greatest Brood War player in the game's history has seemingly shown recent strength against Zerg players. Digging deeper into it though, the Ultimate Weapon's whopping 7 out of 10 victories over zergs are against players who have not recently had strong showings: Snute, (Z)TLO, and (Z)Losira. Flash's last two games against zerg were lost to (Z)Soulkey, who himself has also not been performing very strongly. But, only time will tell what kind of builds and machinations he will most certainly have prepared for this very high caliber zerg player.

With these two monsters of their specific race on a collision course against each other in the second match of the day, the games that will result will surely be a sight to behold. It seems iffy that Flash should prevail over Life on this day, but any given tournament day one Starcraft player will beat another. One needs only to believe? With Life favored in this match, we may have a crisis of faith.


Predictions:

Solar 3-0 Dream
Life 3-1 Flash
Scarlett 2-3 TY

Writers: Heartland, Brindled.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Editors: DarkLordOlli
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 17 2014 17:45 GMT
#2
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict
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stif
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United States12 Posts
December 17 2014 17:47 GMT
#3
Solar is criminally underrated, im happy you guys said he was gonna 3-0. Also I can't see scarlett beating TY, he's just too good.
Zealously
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 17 2014 17:49 GMT
#4
On December 18 2014 02:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict


I wouldn't have had a problem with letting Templar write this preview, I think most people can put their biases away (or at least make them mostly insignificant) while writing. After all, I've written a fair share of previews on Life and various Prime players
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 17 2014 17:51 GMT
#5
Consistently defeating TaeJa at both Blizzcon and twice at the most recent Dreamhack, plus claiming victory over ForGG in that same Dreamhack before facing him in the finals, puts Life in a very strong position both play-wise and mentally against Terran.

?? Life didn't win ForGG
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 17 2014 17:54 GMT
#6
Big day for KT. TY should make it through, and I'd give Flash a 40% chance vs Life. KT fighting!
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 17 2014 17:55 GMT
#7
On December 18 2014 02:51 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
Consistently defeating TaeJa at both Blizzcon and twice at the most recent Dreamhack, plus claiming victory over ForGG in that same Dreamhack before facing him in the finals, puts Life in a very strong position both play-wise and mentally against Terran.

?? Life didn't win ForGG


I have no idea what you're talking about
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 17 2014 17:56 GMT
#8
Very bold predictions
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Brindled
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States508 Posts
December 17 2014 17:58 GMT
#9
On December 18 2014 02:47 stif wrote:
Solar is criminally underrated, im happy you guys said he was gonna 3-0. Also I can't see scarlett beating TY, he's just too good.


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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
December 17 2014 17:59 GMT
#10

Flash's last two games against zerg were lost to (Z)Soulkey, who himself has also not been performing very strongly himself.

much self

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Finland7364 Posts
December 17 2014 18:00 GMT
#11
On December 18 2014 02:56 OtherWorld wrote:
Very bold predictions

Agreed. Giving Scarlett two games is quite generous.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 17 2014 18:01 GMT
#12
On December 18 2014 02:56 OtherWorld wrote:
Very bold predictions

It's funny because the word Predictions is very bold there, isn't it?
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ZigguratOfUr
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Iraq16955 Posts
December 17 2014 18:02 GMT
#13
On December 18 2014 02:47 stif wrote:
Solar is criminally underrated, im happy you guys said he was gonna 3-0. Also I can't see scarlett beating TY, he's just too good.


There I feel differently. I'd say that Dream is even more underrated than Solar, and that he'll probably win or at least make it close. As for Scarlett beating TY... I agree that she is far from favoured against one of the best terrans out there.
Brindled
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States508 Posts
December 17 2014 18:02 GMT
#14
On December 18 2014 03:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 02:56 OtherWorld wrote:
Very bold predictions

It's funny because the word Predictions is very bold there, isn't it?


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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 18:04:04
December 17 2014 18:03 GMT
#15
On December 18 2014 03:02 Brindled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 03:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:56 OtherWorld wrote:
Very bold predictions

It's funny because the word Predictions is very bold there, isn't it?


I like you.


Wow... that's like a first on here. Most people just begrudgingly accept/tolerate me
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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
December 17 2014 18:10 GMT
#16
I like the definitive predictions! Solar and Scarlett fighting! I think Scarlett can do well because while there are a lot of eyes on her, she is definitely the underdog overall, and people aren't expecting her to breeze through the bracket.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
December 17 2014 18:12 GMT
#17
we should make her an actual torch
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TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
December 17 2014 18:17 GMT
#18
Excuse my ignorance, can you watch free VODs for this tournament, or is it payed viewing?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 17 2014 18:19 GMT
#19
Dream gonna stomp nerds you fools
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 17 2014 18:19 GMT
#20
On December 18 2014 03:17 TronJovolta wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, can you watch free VODs for this tournament, or is it payed viewing?

VOD should be up on Azubu now and they're usually pretty good about having them on youtube in a day or two.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 17 2014 18:23 GMT
#21
Just to make sure, the times here are wrong again right? It's 4 hours later?

Can't wait to see some tvz!
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 17 2014 18:26 GMT
#22
Really hoping for decent games from Dream, hopefully he can show some of his godly multitask. Solar looks so strong though across the board.

I think TY is actually one of the terrans who matches up best for Scarlett; when he's not on form, his weird little innovative tricks and builds sometimes just fall flat. Both of them seem to be so inconsistent, so depending on which TY / Scarlett show up, it really could be an upset.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 17 2014 18:41 GMT
#23
On December 18 2014 03:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 02:56 OtherWorld wrote:
Very bold predictions

It's funny because the word Predictions is very bold there, isn't it?

Hehe. Well done
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esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
December 17 2014 18:54 GMT
#24
let's go ty and flash. specially flash since he has no gsl to fall back on if he loses now.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
December 17 2014 19:12 GMT
#25
Flash vs Life will be 3-2 or 2-3.
Xoronius
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Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 19:30:31
December 17 2014 19:28 GMT
#26
On December 18 2014 02:33 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
We can only assume that the other invited unnamed foreigner (who wasn't able to participate) was (Z)Snute, who appears to be the only other non-Korean able to compete at the highest levels of play.

That makes it sound like Scarlett is a clear top-2-foreigner. I know, a preview is supposed to generate a certain hype, but Scarlett is nr.3 in WCS points and nr.6 in earnings for 2014. Bunny finished 2nd in both of those metrics. Why wouldn't he be another non-korean to compete at this level of play? Vortix competed in 4 premiers compared to Scarlett's 8 and is still about 5k ahead of her in earnings (He's also the current foreign aligulac nr.1, but that changes all the time). Why isn't he mentioned as someone else able to play at that level? What about Sen, who was the first foreigner to win a premier in 2 years?

Anyway, hoping Life does it tomorrow, we need a strong BC champion. I'm having a neutral position on the other two matches.
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
December 17 2014 19:41 GMT
#27
I pin my hopes on flash
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
December 17 2014 19:42 GMT
#28
I actually kind of think Flash will beat Life, after seeing how ForGG did it. But I hope Life wins 3-0!
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
December 17 2014 21:39 GMT
#29
Hoping for a clean sweep for the Swam tonight.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 17 2014 21:41 GMT
#30
Go Scarlett! I also wish both Solar and Dream could advance, I love both of them D:
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Profile Joined December 2014
Norway85 Posts
December 17 2014 21:48 GMT
#31
Sorry, but TY will take down Scarlett 3-0.

Also rooting for Solar, and maybe god. I don't really care about Life or Flash. We'll see
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Micronesia1338 Posts
December 17 2014 21:54 GMT
#32
Solar 3-2 Dream
Life 3-1 Flash
Scarlett 0-3 TY
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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
December 17 2014 21:57 GMT
#33
Scarlett please win, it will make my day so bright !

Show them how you do
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 17 2014 22:19 GMT
#34
i blame artosis if things go wrong.

he could easily predict TY to win and give foreigners some hope. this way more foreign players would play starcraft again and e-sports would be saved.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 17 2014 22:20 GMT
#35
On December 18 2014 06:48 karl1ok wrote:
Sorry, but TY will take down Scarlett 3-0.

Also rooting for Solar, and maybe god. I don't really care about Life or Flash. We'll see


you dont care about Life or Flash?
are you from this world?

this is -the- match to watch. so many memories, so much skill and talent. wow.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 23:01:42
December 17 2014 23:00 GMT
#36
I agree with every prediction almost exactly. I can see Scarlett vs TY going worse for her and Dream doing better than 0-3 (I think 3-1 is more likely).
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
December 17 2014 23:03 GMT
#37
On December 18 2014 02:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 02:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict


I wouldn't have had a problem with letting Templar write this preview, I think most people can put their biases away (or at least make them mostly insignificant) while writing. After all, I've written a fair share of previews on Life and various Prime players

Life is a GOD Tasteless!

Dream is a GOD Tasteless!

Scarlett is a GODDESS Tasteless!

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arvinds94
Profile Joined April 2012
United States40 Posts
December 17 2014 23:24 GMT
#38
What about Jinro round of 4
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peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
December 18 2014 00:31 GMT
#39
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 18 2014 00:32 GMT
#40
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?

...must... not... gamble...
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 18 2014 00:42 GMT
#41
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?

How much money do you have?
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Mlord
Profile Joined February 2013
France135 Posts
December 18 2014 01:07 GMT
#42
I'd say

Dream 3-1 Solar
Life 3-2 Flash
TY 3-0 Scarlett
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
December 18 2014 01:24 GMT
#43
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?


You're American, you probably owe money -.-;
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 02:21:55
December 18 2014 02:21 GMT
#44
On December 18 2014 09:32 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?

...must... not... gamble...

I'm not fucking joking. I'll do it. Writer's bet, come on. :D

(We'll use the odds from Pinnacle or somewhere?)
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
December 18 2014 02:28 GMT
#45
On December 18 2014 02:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 02:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict


I wouldn't have had a problem with letting Templar write this preview, I think most people can put their biases away (or at least make them mostly insignificant) while writing. After all, I've written a fair share of previews on Life and various Prime players

I'd have to agree. After all, in writing the OP for the Porleague Power Rank thread, I had to give praise to Flash. Flash!
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eschatolic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States37 Posts
December 18 2014 03:45 GMT
#46
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?

I'm game. I assume you're paying off TY?

No? On second thought....
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lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
December 18 2014 03:58 GMT
#47
Soooo... in the, what, 10th season of Sonic Starleague, we're supposed to start using "SSL" to refer to the first season of SpoTV Starleague? I mean, Sonic Starleague is even going to be broadcast on OGN. Seems kind of shitty, all things considered. I wouldn't start calling a tournament "MSL" just because the sponsor was McDonalds. And that's a less obnoxious scenario since the actual MSL is dead.
FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
December 18 2014 04:01 GMT
#48
keep the dream alive Scarlett
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
December 18 2014 04:02 GMT
#49
On December 18 2014 12:58 lolmlg wrote:
Soooo... in the, what, 10th season of Sonic Starleague, we're supposed to start using "SSL" to refer to the first season of SpoTV Starleague? I mean, Sonic Starleague is even going to be broadcast on OGN. Seems kind of shitty, all things considered. I wouldn't start calling a tournament "MSL" just because the sponsor was McDonalds. And that's a less obnoxious scenario since the actual MSL is dead.


erll the official name for this tourney is the SSL so... Mods were talking about maybe naming it something else for thread titles to differentiate but they either decided not to or haven't done so yet.
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 04:20:10
December 18 2014 04:18 GMT
#50
I must be a masochist, I cancelled another engagement so I can stay home and watch Flash and Scarlett lose back to back...
Don't hate the player, hate the game
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 18 2014 06:50 GMT
#51
On December 18 2014 11:21 peanuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 09:32 The_Templar wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?

...must... not... gamble...

I'm not fucking joking. I'll do it. Writer's bet, come on. :D

(We'll use the odds from Pinnacle or somewhere?)

...No thanks. If Scarlett somehow won I would be devastated instead of surprised.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 18 2014 07:01 GMT
#52
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?

is that a positive amount currently? #christmasgifts
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
December 18 2014 07:03 GMT
#53
On December 18 2014 16:01 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?

is that a positive amount currently? #christmasgifts

It is. Despite Bank of America's best attempts, it is.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
December 18 2014 07:15 GMT
#54
On December 18 2014 16:03 peanuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 16:01 boxerfred wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?

is that a positive amount currently? #christmasgifts

It is. Despite Bank of America's best attempts, it is.

I wish there was a proper smiley to say "I feel you, man." But there isn't. So...I feel you, man.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
December 18 2014 08:12 GMT
#55
On December 18 2014 13:02 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 12:58 lolmlg wrote:
Soooo... in the, what, 10th season of Sonic Starleague, we're supposed to start using "SSL" to refer to the first season of SpoTV Starleague? I mean, Sonic Starleague is even going to be broadcast on OGN. Seems kind of shitty, all things considered. I wouldn't start calling a tournament "MSL" just because the sponsor was McDonalds. And that's a less obnoxious scenario since the actual MSL is dead.


erll the official name for this tourney is the SSL so... Mods were talking about maybe naming it something else for thread titles to differentiate but they either decided not to or haven't done so yet.

who gives a fuck? the AFL is the arizona fall league in baseball and it's the arena football league in football. you can't "own" a combination of three letters. literally the only reason to care is broodwar elitist crap
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IAMPRO
Profile Joined November 2011
Afghanistan118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 08:36:55
December 18 2014 08:29 GMT
#56
On December 18 2014 11:21 peanuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 09:32 The_Templar wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:31 peanuts wrote:
I'll put my entire bank account on Scarlett winning. Who's in?

...must... not... gamble...

I'm not fucking joking. I'll do it. Writer's bet, come on. :D

(We'll use the odds from Pinnacle or somewhere?)

Seriously up for this. How much have you got in your account? I'll bet up to $5k but we'd need someone to escrow. Let me know asap as it starts soon. If you have a Pokerstars account this would be a lot easier.

Also would be willing to take dream over solar is anyone is interested?

edit: have sent you PM
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 18 2014 08:45 GMT
#57
On December 18 2014 02:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 02:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict


I wouldn't have had a problem with letting Templar write this preview, I think most people can put their biases away (or at least make them mostly insignificant) while writing. After all, I've written a fair share of previews on Life and various Prime players

I hope you are not implying that your pieces on life only had a "mostly insignificant" bias?
/a fan of life
Mamba
Profile Joined September 2014
Switzerland39 Posts
December 18 2014 08:53 GMT
#58
This is gonna start in 10 minutes right? (Not sure because of timezone)

My prediction:
Dream 1:3 Solar
Life 1:3 Flash
TY 3-0 Scarlett

gl hf to everybody watching!
Romandy Gaming
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 18 2014 08:53 GMT
#59
On December 18 2014 17:53 xGameMamba wrote:
This is gonna start in 10 minutes right? (Not sure because of timezone)

My prediction:
Dream 1:3 Solar
Life 1:3 Flash
TY 3-0 Scarlett

gl hf to everybody watching!

This starts in
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Mamba
Profile Joined September 2014
Switzerland39 Posts
December 18 2014 09:00 GMT
#60
On December 18 2014 17:53 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 17:53 xGameMamba wrote:
This is gonna start in 10 minutes right? (Not sure because of timezone)

My prediction:
Dream 1:3 Solar
Life 1:3 Flash
TY 3-0 Scarlett

gl hf to everybody watching!
m
This starts in


Which means I have to wait another hour...
T___T
Can't wait so long. To much hype ^-^

Anyway thanks man!
Romandy Gaming
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 09:03:53
December 18 2014 09:03 GMT
#61
I really hope we get 2 Zerg winning today.
Currently, I don't really see Leenock beating YongwHa or Dark beating PartinG, therefore... we really need 2 Zerg today to have a decent representation. :-P

Preferably Life and Scarlett, ofc.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 18 2014 09:08 GMT
#62
On December 18 2014 17:45 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 02:49 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict


I wouldn't have had a problem with letting Templar write this preview, I think most people can put their biases away (or at least make them mostly insignificant) while writing. After all, I've written a fair share of previews on Life and various Prime players

I hope you are not implying that your pieces on life only had a "mostly insignificant" bias?
/a fan of life


It's not bias when I'm right
AdministratorBreak the chains
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 18 2014 09:26 GMT
#63
On December 18 2014 18:08 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 17:45 Cascade wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:49 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict


I wouldn't have had a problem with letting Templar write this preview, I think most people can put their biases away (or at least make them mostly insignificant) while writing. After all, I've written a fair share of previews on Life and various Prime players

I hope you are not implying that your pieces on life only had a "mostly insignificant" bias?
/a fan of life


It's not bias when I'm right


The smugness radiating from this post right now
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 18 2014 09:30 GMT
#64
On December 18 2014 18:26 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 18:08 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 17:45 Cascade wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:49 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict


I wouldn't have had a problem with letting Templar write this preview, I think most people can put their biases away (or at least make them mostly insignificant) while writing. After all, I've written a fair share of previews on Life and various Prime players

I hope you are not implying that your pieces on life only had a "mostly insignificant" bias?
/a fan of life


It's not bias when I'm right


The smugness radiating from this post right now


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/471086-tower-overwhelming-life-wins-wcs-2014

AdministratorBreak the chains
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 18 2014 09:33 GMT
#65
On December 18 2014 18:30 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 18:26 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On December 18 2014 18:08 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 17:45 Cascade wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:49 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict


I wouldn't have had a problem with letting Templar write this preview, I think most people can put their biases away (or at least make them mostly insignificant) while writing. After all, I've written a fair share of previews on Life and various Prime players

I hope you are not implying that your pieces on life only had a "mostly insignificant" bias?
/a fan of life


It's not bias when I'm right


The smugness radiating from this post right now


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/471086-tower-overwhelming-life-wins-wcs-2014


But that is bias, you even said so
Writer's note: this article is not unbiased
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 18 2014 09:38 GMT
#66
On December 18 2014 18:33 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 18:30 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 18:26 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On December 18 2014 18:08 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 17:45 Cascade wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:49 Zealously wrote:
On December 18 2014 02:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that Templar didn't get to write this one because it'd have been hilariously biased, but good job regardless. Though I think Dream and Flash might do better than you guys predict


I wouldn't have had a problem with letting Templar write this preview, I think most people can put their biases away (or at least make them mostly insignificant) while writing. After all, I've written a fair share of previews on Life and various Prime players

I hope you are not implying that your pieces on life only had a "mostly insignificant" bias?
/a fan of life


It's not bias when I'm right


The smugness radiating from this post right now


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/471086-tower-overwhelming-life-wins-wcs-2014


But that is bias, you even said so
Show nested quote +
Writer's note: this article is not unbiased


It wasn't bias (I promise) when I called him winning Blizzcon before the tournament! Just... significant smugness once he did
AdministratorBreak the chains
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 20 2014 07:07 GMT
#67
I feel that Snute is one of the most underrated players of all time. Unofficial second place in pretty much every tournament he enters.
maru lover forever
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