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Austria24417 Posts
The qualifiers for GSL Code S were held in Seoul today. As previously announced, Season 1 of GSL in 2015 will not have a Code A. Instead, the qualifiers lead directly into Code S. However, Season 2 onwards will follow the familiar format. Here's the complete list of qualified players:
Protoss:
 Dear
First
herO
MC
Panic
PartinG
Rain
San
Seed
Super
Terminator
YongHwa
Terran:
 Bomber
Dream
FanTaSy
Hack
GuMiho
Heart
INnoVation
MarineKing
Maru
MMA
TaeJa
TY
YoDa
Zerg:
 Curious
Dark
Life
PenguiN
Rogue
Solar
Soulkey
After the decision to restart Code S from scratch, there were many questions regarding the possible outcome of such a chaotic reshuffling of Korea's premier Starcraft 2 competition. Surprisingly, the first season of 2015 Code S will be one of the most diverse we have ever had. Only 3 teams will have 3 or more players in Code S this season: SKT T1, Jin Air Green Wings, and a revitalized MVP. 15 other teams will be represented this season, a record breaking turn out.
However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor SSL means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats.
Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season.
The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses.
Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier
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soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL 
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Bbyong T___T. Good thing there's still SSL.
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Canada8157 Posts
Looks like Zest is just another Dear in the headlights
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On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL
Same with Zest. How very odd.
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Some of these are pretty surprising, especially in the afternoon session. I'm disappointed that soO, HerO and DRG all barely missed out on qualifying.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
Korea back with some super nice leagues now. SSL and GSL are stacked. Great :D
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On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL
I think Taeja broke him.
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MC still sexy 
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Poor soO
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So happy to see so many old faces before the BW merger!!
Especially happy for:
(P)First
(P)MC
(P)Rain
(P)Seed
(P)Super
(P)YongHwa
Terran:
(T)Bomber
(T)GuMiho
(T)INnoVation
(T)MarineKing
(T)Maru
(T)MMA
(T)TaeJa
Zerg:
(Z)Life
(Z)Soulkey
Where is JD?
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SC2 now looks more balanced than ever before. And I don't mean this in a bad way.
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I hope Taeja doesn't quit before winning it big in Korea, he deserves it
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So both Korean leagues are doing it the same nonsensical way? One day to qualify, if you fail, you are out for a big part of the year....
This is just wrong. This deserves to be a series of small tournaments, with some small prizes, casting, coverage, and all that, spread over some time, to give exposure to those players who do not qualify for the main tourney.
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No soO. Zest, Shine, Jjakji, KeeN, DRG, HerO, sOs, Flash, Cure, Symbol or Bbyong... wow. Didn't expect so many kinda good, consistent (depends on the player) players not to make it through.
Happy for the underdogs like Rogue, Seed, Heart, Penguin, YongHwa, Super, Curious, San, Terminator, Dream, Panic and Hack though
A little light on the zerg side but overall alright i would say
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On December 15 2014 22:01 SFDuality wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL I think Taeja broke him.
Well, he said "better fail than 2nd".
After that his results...
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I'm a little confused as to whether there is going to be a Code A this season. It looks like Flash, soO, and Zest aren't going to playing at all in this season's GSL. Am I wrong?
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United States23455 Posts
On December 15 2014 22:07 shell wrote:
So happy to see so many old faces before the BW merger!!
Especially happy for:
(P)First
(P)MC
(P)Rain
(P)Seed
(P)Super
(P)YongHwa
Terran:
(T)Bomber
(T)GuMiho
(T)INnoVation
(T)MarineKing
(T)Maru
(T)MMA
(T)TaeJa
Zerg:
(Z)Life
(Z)Soulkey
Where is JD?
Apparently going to play in the AM/EU WCS thing because he hates challenge/rivalry/intrigue
Or he just likes winning
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So who was saying all the guys from WCS NA/EUR wouldnt hold up in korea? This is the greatest thing in 2 years. Proves all the haters wrong. Pretty solid list of players.
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JD not in the qualifiers, it seems. Anyone knows why?
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sOs, Bbyong, soO
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On December 15 2014 22:10 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 22:07 shell wrote:
So happy to see so many old faces before the BW merger!!
Especially happy for:
(P)First
(P)MC
(P)Rain
(P)Seed
(P)Super
(P)YongHwa
Terran:
(T)Bomber
(T)GuMiho
(T)INnoVation
(T)MarineKing
(T)Maru
(T)MMA
(T)TaeJa
Zerg:
(Z)Life
(Z)Soulkey
Where is JD? Apparently going to play in the AM/EU WCS thing because he hates challenge/rivalry/intrigue Or he just likes winning
Likes winning? He won only the smallest in the 13 tournaments he attended last year...With 2x Ro32 and 1xRo16 in WCSNA I am not convinced 
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Or he likes the foreign fans, I respect his decision.
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so few zergs
The only zerg to win a group was Solar (solar 2-1 gumiho). All the other zergs came from lower bracket, even Life.
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On December 15 2014 22:10 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 22:07 shell wrote:
So happy to see so many old faces before the BW merger!!
Especially happy for:
(P)First
(P)MC
(P)Rain
(P)Seed
(P)Super
(P)YongHwa
Terran:
(T)Bomber
(T)GuMiho
(T)INnoVation
(T)MarineKing
(T)Maru
(T)MMA
(T)TaeJa
Zerg:
(Z)Life
(Z)Soulkey
Where is JD? Apparently going to play in the AM/EU WCS thing because he hates challenge/rivalry/intrigue Or he just likes winning
Nah the reality is that he wants to meet Has again to get cannon rushed again
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Wow. As much as I liked the WCS exodus of players like MC (and Taeja) to EU/AM regions, it just feels great to have all of them in one big fat meatgrinder. I am so looking forward to the tears of joy and pain, to all the saltiness, LR bans due to balance reasons, warnings and whatever may come in that sick league that is GSL.
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On December 15 2014 22:10 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 22:07 shell wrote:
So happy to see so many old faces before the BW merger!!
Especially happy for:
(P)First
(P)MC
(P)Rain
(P)Seed
(P)Super
(P)YongHwa
Terran:
(T)Bomber
(T)GuMiho
(T)INnoVation
(T)MarineKing
(T)Maru
(T)MMA
(T)TaeJa
Zerg:
(Z)Life
(Z)Soulkey
Where is JD? Apparently going to play in the AM/EU WCS thing because he hates challenge/rivalry/intrigue Or he just likes winning
How is he eligible? Does the ForGG exception apply to him?
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best mix of kespa and "esf" for a long time.. so esf players finally caught up ?
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Code S without Zest and Soo is absolutely ridiculous.
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On December 15 2014 22:23 SFDuality wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 22:10 Darkhorse wrote:On December 15 2014 22:07 shell wrote:
So happy to see so many old faces before the BW merger!!
Especially happy for:
(P)First
(P)MC
(P)Rain
(P)Seed
(P)Super
(P)YongHwa
Terran:
(T)Bomber
(T)GuMiho
(T)INnoVation
(T)MarineKing
(T)Maru
(T)MMA
(T)TaeJa
Zerg:
(Z)Life
(Z)Soulkey
Where is JD? Apparently going to play in the AM/EU WCS thing because he hates challenge/rivalry/intrigue Or he just likes winning How is he eligible? Does the ForGG exception apply to him?
He will probably get a visa a la Polt/Violet (and hydra too)
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On December 15 2014 22:25 Morbidius wrote:
Code S without Zest and Soo is absolutely ridiculous.
and without DRG
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Has the GSL said why they did this change? It seems plainly worse for everyone who was a dedicated GSL competitor in recent history and just lost their auto-seed, and it looks like there is no Code A.. so what there is to even fight for in Korea just slimmed down that much more. I'm already over it and looking forward to the games, but I'm definitely not a fan of these changes.
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Dont cry for Zest...he is going to win all three KeSpa cups anyways
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 15 2014 22:23 SkySC2 wrote:
best mix of kespa and "esf" for a long time.. so esf players finally caught up ?
20 vs 12 esf
more like Kespa got rekt for some bizarre reason
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Australia18228 Posts
On December 15 2014 22:37 Lumi wrote:
Has the GSL said why they did this change? It seems plainly worse for everyone who was a dedicated GSL competitor in recent history and just lost their auto-seed, and it looks like there is no Code A.. so what there is to even fight for in Korea just slimmed down that much more. I'm already over it and looking forward to the games, but I'm definitely not a fan of these changes.
Wasn't it because of NA/EU Koreans moving back? Didn't want to punish them by forcing them to go through qualifiers & Code A
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Wow, so many returns of GSL veterans. So pumped for how MC, TaeJa, Bomber & co. will fare against the rest now.
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No Zest, no soO. I really wish he had some top players with some damn consistency. I can't tell if this qualifier format is bullshit or if players I like are just doomed as soon as I start to like them.
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France9034 Posts
Wow, this season of Code S is quite... special :o
Big favorite dropping out, many lesser known Koreans (go Hack! ), this will be interesting!
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Italy12246 Posts
This will be a really, really wierd code S season
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On December 15 2014 22:41 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 22:23 SkySC2 wrote:
best mix of kespa and "esf" for a long time.. so esf players finally caught up ? 20 vs 12 esf more like Kespa got rekt for some bizarre reason
yeah, but if you think about it, most of the best, or even average KeSPA players ( Rain, PartinG, Soulkey, Gumiho, Fantasy ), all left for their KeSPA recently to go to esf teams, some ike Rain, PartinG, Soulkey and Fantasy might have still qualified had they been on a KeSPA team, i think its not because of esf, more about KeSPA, changing and evolving into someting more bizarre
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Well at least one Prime guy made it !
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Underwhelming for Zergs, better polish your tvt and tvp knowledge zzzZzzZZzzzzzzzz... or just hibernate for this season and hope for the best in the future
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PartinG, YongHwa, herO[jOin], Super, San, Terminator, Dear,
TY, Maru, INnoVation, MarineKing, Dream, FanTaSy, GuMiho, TaeJa
Rogue, Soulkey, Life, Solar, Dark
Will be playing SSL and GSL
I will miss ByuL in GSL
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On December 15 2014 22:37 Lumi wrote:
Has the GSL said why they did this change? It seems plainly worse for everyone who was a dedicated GSL competitor in recent history and just lost their auto-seed, and it looks like there is no Code A.. so what there is to even fight for in Korea just slimmed down that much more. I'm already over it and looking forward to the games, but I'm definitely not a fan of these changes.
Otherwise region lock would have been unfair for those who dropped everything to go to other regions. It probably also had to do with SSL, but mostly a result from the region lock. Otherwise you might have had alot of Koreans say, f it I wait a year for the forgg exception rule to apply.
But players outside of Korea showed everytime they met Code S players, that last year being Code S didn't mean alot. So a fresh start does just the same as if the top Koreans would have to dig their way through Code B and A hell. Takes a few seasons in either case to make it a true Code S again.
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On December 15 2014 23:06 Jvattic wrote:
Underwhelming for Zergs, better polish your tvt and tvp knowledge zzzZzzZZzzzzzzzz... or just hibernate for this season and hope for the best in the future
Terran didn't exist in code s for ~4 seasons straight before last season and it's widely accepted that TvT and TvP and much more enjoyable than PvP and PvZ. So this is definitely a good thing for now.
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This lineup is crazy. So many old school players.
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On December 15 2014 23:15 mechengineer123 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 23:06 Jvattic wrote:
Underwhelming for Zergs, better polish your tvt and tvp knowledge zzzZzzZZzzzzzzzz... or just hibernate for this season and hope for the best in the future Terran didn't exist in code s for ~4 seasons straight before last season and it's widely accepted that TvT and TvP and much more enjoyable than PvP and PvZ. So this is definitely a good thing for now.
I disagree, TvP often has the same (in my opinion boring to watch) "let's clash my colossus heavy army into your bio viking ball and see who comes out alive" or "let's clash my bio viking scv ball into your colossus heavy army before you have storm" endgame. PvZ on the other hand has way more tech switches in it, which is (for me) way way way more entertaining to watch.
Edit: Not saying there's no interesting TvP games, I just don't like how the match-up works most of the time.
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United States23455 Posts
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On December 15 2014 23:21 Jvattic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 23:15 mechengineer123 wrote:On December 15 2014 23:06 Jvattic wrote:
Underwhelming for Zergs, better polish your tvt and tvp knowledge zzzZzzZZzzzzzzzz... or just hibernate for this season and hope for the best in the future Terran didn't exist in code s for ~4 seasons straight before last season and it's widely accepted that TvT and TvP and much more enjoyable than PvP and PvZ. So this is definitely a good thing for now. I disagree, TvP often has the same (in my opinion boring to watch) "let's clash my colossus heavy army into your bio viking ball and see who comes out alive" or "let's clash my bio viking scv ball into your colossus heavy army before you have storm" endgame. PvZ on the other hand has way more tech switches in it, which is (for me) way way way more entertaining to watch. Edit: Not saying there's no interesting TvP games, I just don't like how the match-up works most of the time.
I'm in the same boat with you in regarding to PvT. Either its some sort of early aggression from the protoss (ussually oracle/blink stalkers) or it goes into death ball protoss vs bio+viking composition. PvZ is less linear in terms of builds and seems to have a wider variation of effective strategies.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Woop the T1 guys! INno, Dream , Dark and Penguin :D sad about soO and Classic though :/ was really rooting for soO.
Also <3 TY GuMiho Dear Maru MMA Bomber and herO
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On December 15 2014 23:02 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 22:41 lichter wrote:On December 15 2014 22:23 SkySC2 wrote:
best mix of kespa and "esf" for a long time.. so esf players finally caught up ? 20 vs 12 esf more like Kespa got rekt for some bizarre reason yeah, but if you think about it, most of the best, or even average KeSPA players ( Rain, PartinG, Soulkey, Gumiho, Fantasy ), all left for their KeSPA recently to go to esf teams, some ike Rain, PartinG, Soulkey and Fantasy might have still qualified had they been on a KeSPA team, i think its not because of esf, more about KeSPA, changing and evolving into someting more bizarre
esf was dead long ago, and Rain, SK, fanta only go to foreign teams. Meanwhile the like of Maru, Gumiho, PartinG all more or less trained under KeSPA for quite some time
I know it's funny (& nostalgic) for some to brought this up but some dudes actually try to discuss this seriously lol
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I won't be surprised if this Code S shuffle results in a few retirings in the near future
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Sick Terran line-up!
Can't wait for things to get rollin' in Korea!!! ^_^
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
Players who will not win GSL no matter what:
First, Panic, San, Seed, Super, Terminator, YongHwa, Hack, GuMiho, Heart, MarineKing, YoDa, Curious,
Hunt has started!
![[image loading]](http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/square_small/1/14389/1153070-elmer_fudd.jpg)
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On December 15 2014 23:15 mechengineer123 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 23:06 Jvattic wrote:
Underwhelming for Zergs, better polish your tvt and tvp knowledge zzzZzzZZzzzzzzzz... or just hibernate for this season and hope for the best in the future Terran didn't exist in code s for ~4 seasons straight before last season and it's widely accepted that TvT and TvP and much more enjoyable than PvP and PvZ. So this is definitely a good thing for now.
I wouldnt go too far:
While i think most people will see TvT better then ZvZ; TvP is just the same game all game, while PvZ can become really really exiting. You got everything: Fast pased games with All ins, techheavy games, hardcore techswitches and extremly long attrition fights. And PvP is so fast, that it is really intense even in 1 Base vs 1 Base.
For me it is TvZ, PvZ, TvT, PvP, TvP and then ZvZ.
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Seeding for these events should be done much more carefully. Higher GSL point earners should be the ones in softer brackets and getting 2 byes straight into dual tournament territory. Or I guess you could factor in WCS points in general since a lot of players from last's years EU and NA played. Either way a lot of the brackets seemed thrown together out of convenience, which kind of sucks
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No soO means no MKP vs soO finals. Maybe next time :p
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Lots of players I felt would go through dropping out.
no sOs, Cure, Trap, Zest, Bbyong, soO, Stats, Dear.
After I saw that Ryung beat Classic I thought maybe Axiom would squeeze another player into Code S but it wasn't to be.
Seeing Terminator qualifying is surprising in a very good way. He's on fire right now and I like it.
I was surprised by both First and MC making it through then I saw their bracket, by far the easiest bracket out there. Not going to discredit them qualifying by any means but I don't feel they'll fare well in the RO32.
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On December 15 2014 23:56 Ansinjunger wrote:
No soO means no MKP vs soO finals. Maybe next time :p
I think what this means is that soO was just holding MK's place. Now that MK is back, we don't need soO to kong anymore, the original is back.
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Afternoon - Group 1 - sOs and Classic out... Super and Curious in... damn
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United States23455 Posts
On December 15 2014 23:52 Jenia6109 wrote:Players who will not win GSL no matter what: First, Panic, San, Seed, Super, Terminator, YongHwa, Hack, GuMiho, Heart, MarineKing, YoDa, Curious,
STOP SLEEPING ON SUPER YO let it be known that when he does well I was the one who called it
Other than that I pretty much agree unless Gumigod steps up. Curious will make the Ro16
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On December 15 2014 22:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
No Zest, no soO. I really wish he had some top players with some damn consistency. I can't tell if this qualifier format is bullshit or if players I like are just doomed as soon as I start to like them.
Yeah, same here, I've come to like them a lot over the past year. It's crazy that they both didn't make GSL nor SSL. Fuck....
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On December 16 2014 00:19 Anacreor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 22:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
No Zest, no soO. I really wish he had some top players with some damn consistency. I can't tell if this qualifier format is bullshit or if players I like are just doomed as soon as I start to like them. Yeah, same here, I've come to like them a lot over the past year. It's crazy that they both didn't make GSL nor SSL. Fuck....
it's only the first season guys, you speak as if their career has ended
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On December 16 2014 00:21 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 00:19 Anacreor wrote:On December 15 2014 22:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
No Zest, no soO. I really wish he had some top players with some damn consistency. I can't tell if this qualifier format is bullshit or if players I like are just doomed as soon as I start to like them. Yeah, same here, I've come to like them a lot over the past year. It's crazy that they both didn't make GSL nor SSL. Fuck.... it's only the first season guys, you speak as if their career has ended
Well, especially in the case of soO, I just hope his mentality isn't fucked.
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Oh damn, Flash and Zest also failed to qualify
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Koreigners is an awesome name, how have I never heard that before^^
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Did not expect almost all the favourites (or fan faves) to make it, Zest, soO and Flash exceptions.
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Time for Curious to retake his Gatekeeper role from Flash.
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On December 16 2014 00:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 23:56 Ansinjunger wrote:
No soO means no MKP vs soO finals. Maybe next time :p I think what this means is that soO was just holding MK's place. Now that MK is back, we don't need soO to kong anymore, the original is back.
We need a new Zerg to do well while all the others die early in the tournament though
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On December 16 2014 00:41 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 00:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 15 2014 23:56 Ansinjunger wrote:
No soO means no MKP vs soO finals. Maybe next time :p I think what this means is that soO was just holding MK's place. Now that MK is back, we don't need soO to kong anymore, the original is back. We need a new Zerg to do well while all the others die early in the tournament though
It's ok Life is in GSL and SSL. Also Dark/Rogue/Soulkey
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Startale also has three players in life, curious and hack right?
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On December 16 2014 00:41 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 00:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 15 2014 23:56 Ansinjunger wrote:
No soO means no MKP vs soO finals. Maybe next time :p I think what this means is that soO was just holding MK's place. Now that MK is back, we don't need soO to kong anymore, the original is back. We need a new Zerg to do well while all the others die early in the tournament though
+ Show Spoiler +
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Yeah Life looks like the obvious candidate. I'm afraid of his mysterious and random slumps though
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On December 15 2014 23:15 mechengineer123 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 23:06 Jvattic wrote:
Underwhelming for Zergs, better polish your tvt and tvp knowledge zzzZzzZZzzzzzzzz... or just hibernate for this season and hope for the best in the future Terran didn't exist in code s for ~4 seasons straight before last season and it's widely accepted that TvT and TvP and much more enjoyable than PvP and PvZ. So this is definitely a good thing for now.
Widely accepted? Gave me a nice chuckle.
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On December 16 2014 00:45 OtherWorld wrote:
Yeah Life looks like the obvious candidate. I'm afraid of his mysterious and random slumps though
Every player in Sc2 since Mvp has those though. Life is more likely than anyone else right now.
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No flash D:
No Stork D:
No Zest D:
No sOs D:
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welcome back GuMiho )
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On December 16 2014 00:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 00:45 OtherWorld wrote:
Yeah Life looks like the obvious candidate. I'm afraid of his mysterious and random slumps though Every player in Sc2 since Mvp has those though. Life is more likely than anyone else right now.
I want soO to go on a trip with Mvp to learn how to win, and then come back and dominate the SC2 scene
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SEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On December 16 2014 00:54 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 00:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 16 2014 00:45 OtherWorld wrote:
Yeah Life looks like the obvious candidate. I'm afraid of his mysterious and random slumps though Every player in Sc2 since Mvp has those though. Life is more likely than anyone else right now. I want soO to go on a trip with Mvp to learn how to win, and then come back and dominate the SC2 scene
I imagine soO finding Mvp hiding in some swamp somewhere and he'll get secret training that'll make him just strong enough to win.
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no soO, no Zest, MC in only one by beating losira .... INNO IN BOTH WHO IS YOUR GOD NOW !!!!
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On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier
So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in?
Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking?
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That Zerg lineup is a bit lacking compared to the other 2...
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On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking?
More proof that KeSPA players are overrated.
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Wait Zest, $0$ and soO didnt make it wtf
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SKT would have 8 players if it wasn't for all the defections.
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Great news that the EU/NA Koreans did so well.
But no Flash, Zest, Soo, Bbyong .
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I dont understand? why isnt Flash, soO, or Zest in this?
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On December 16 2014 01:47 Jornada wrote:
I dont understand? why isnt Flash, soO, or Zest in this?
Because there was no seed from the last season and they didn't win the qualifier
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On December 16 2014 01:47 Jornada wrote:
I dont understand? why isnt Flash, soO, or Zest in this?
Welcome to the Korean jungle
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Last season's semifinalist Cure lost to Hack.
Is Hack the new Terran bonjwa?
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Yay! Axiom represent! (Shame for DRG, though.)
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On December 16 2014 01:49 Ej_ wrote:
Last season's semifinalist Cure lost to Hack.
Is Hack the new Terran bonjwa?
Just a solid Code A/low Code S player
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what?? Zest, soO, Flash and sOs failed to advance?
feels like we're back in 2012 with MarineKing, YongHwa, Seed, Curious
I'm also so many former WCS EU players made it too like First, MMA, YoDa, MC, San, I thought all the WCS KR guys would eat them alive.
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I know its not possible logistically to do these qualifiers with bo5 formats but jesus this is brutal.
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Wow, delightfully fresh results! When will the groups be drawn?
Oh BaBy!
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On December 16 2014 00:43 Tanzklaue wrote:
Startale also has three players in life, curious and hack right?
Yes, they do. Also, SKT obviously signed PenguiN immediately after he qualified so they can be the only team with four players. Love the diversity in teams and races, and the fact we have many of the old guard and the new!
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On December 16 2014 01:35 Promised_pain wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking? More proof that KeSPA players are overrated.
More like a qualifier is unforgivable, subject to bracket luck and hardly indicates that some players are clearly above others in term of skill
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Oh, those no-skill zergs!
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On December 16 2014 02:03 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 01:35 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking? More proof that KeSPA players are overrated. More like a qualifier is unforgivable, subject to bracket luck and hardly indicates that some players are clearly above others in term of skill
Yep but when you look at who Zest and Flash lost to, it's kinda disapointing...
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On December 15 2014 23:52 Jenia6109 wrote:Players who will not win GSL no matter what: First, Panic, San, Seed, Super, Terminator, YongHwa, Hack, GuMiho, Heart, MarineKing, YoDa, Curious, Hunt has started!
The hunt's already happened. An entire herd of elephants were slaughtered.
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I want to watch that Maru or TY win this season.
And zerg is very bleak this season.
Zerg players did not qualify much in the two leagues. I think that this season and latest season maps are very hard as zerg player.
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Both SSL and GSL without Zest or soO . Still a great lineup though, going to be an exciting season!
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FLASH W!!!! WHere r U!!?!?!?!
I make Flash year 2014 ...
Please Flash Year 2015 okay?
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As an amusing little side story, this happened after the qualifiers:
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On December 16 2014 02:03 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 01:35 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking? More proof that KeSPA players are overrated. More like a qualifier is unforgivable, subject to bracket luck and hardly indicates that some players are clearly above others in term of skill
Let's see you say that once the season actually begins. This isn't broodwar where the KeSPA guys were basically untouchable. Anything can happen in SC2.
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On December 15 2014 22:01 SFDuality wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL I think Taeja broke him.
Solar*
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On December 16 2014 02:15 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 02:03 OtherWorld wrote:On December 16 2014 01:35 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking? More proof that KeSPA players are overrated. More like a qualifier is unforgivable, subject to bracket luck and hardly indicates that some players are clearly above others in term of skill Yep but when you look at who Zest and Flash lost to, it's kinda disapointing...
They are probably going through a slight slump. The fact that SSL and GSL qualifiers were held a few days apart didn't help, tbh.
On December 16 2014 02:34 Promised_pain wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 02:03 OtherWorld wrote:On December 16 2014 01:35 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking? More proof that KeSPA players are overrated. More like a qualifier is unforgivable, subject to bracket luck and hardly indicates that some players are clearly above others in term of skill Let's see you say that once the season actually begins. This isn't broodwar where the KeSPA guys were basically untouchable. Anything can happen in SC2.
Well yeah I'm not saying that this is Broodwar. But I seriously doubt people like Zest and soO are "overrated" because they lost two qualifiers held a few days apart, and are suddenly worse players than, say, Terminator or Panic. And Zest, soO, Flash, Bbyong and Stats were eliminated by KeSPA players.
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On December 16 2014 02:53 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 02:15 Gwavajuice wrote:On December 16 2014 02:03 OtherWorld wrote:On December 16 2014 01:35 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking? More proof that KeSPA players are overrated. More like a qualifier is unforgivable, subject to bracket luck and hardly indicates that some players are clearly above others in term of skill Yep but when you look at who Zest and Flash lost to, it's kinda disapointing... They are probably going through a slight slump. The fact that SSL and GSL qualifiers were held a few days apart didn't help, tbh. Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 02:34 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 02:03 OtherWorld wrote:On December 16 2014 01:35 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking? More proof that KeSPA players are overrated. More like a qualifier is unforgivable, subject to bracket luck and hardly indicates that some players are clearly above others in term of skill Let's see you say that once the season actually begins. This isn't broodwar where the KeSPA guys were basically untouchable. Anything can happen in SC2. Well yeah I'm not saying that this is Broodwar. But I seriously doubt people like Zest and soO are "overrated" because they lost two qualifiers held a few days apart, and are suddenly worse players than, say, Terminator or Panic. And Zest, soO, Flash, Bbyong and Stats were eliminated by KeSPA players.
Yeah, maybe I put it wrong. I guess the Koreans in NA/EU are underrated then? I mean TaeJa is a great proof of that, dude is a beast. soO is still the nr.1 zerg for me, of course. Life close 2nd.
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No soO
Stoked about Fantasy and Life though :D
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I think the takeaway from the surprising results of the SSL/GSL qualifiers is a good one: Korea still has a strong and highly competitive SC2 scene that has no certainties.
Except PartinG. PartinG is now in Code S for 3 years straight no matter what format or name changes, no matter if he has to requalify or not.
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DRG not taking his losses too well?
"Time seems to come"
Possible hint towards something bad
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So glad Taeja, Bomber, MKP, and Parting made it through.
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Probably goes to show you how many quietly good pro players there are in Korea. Look at some of the players that made it pass the qualifiers in both SSL and GSL:
Terminator, Dream, Dark, Super.. or even MarineKing, GuMiho (if you haven't been following the scene THAT closely) or Dear (who's been considered another Seed/Sniper for the better part of this year). If you had to predict which players are gonna make it through both qualifiers, you probably wouldn't have picked them over Zest, soO, Classic, sOs, or even Flash, Bomber and Rain.
I'm really looking forward to the upcoming season.
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Shockingly, the trio of soO, sOs, and Zest failed to qualify for BOTH StarLeagues. Incidentally, three of the four matches that led to sOs's elimination were 2-1 losses at the hands of Curious, who knocked him out of the winner's bracket of the SSL qualifier as well as both the winner's and loser's brackets of the GSL qualifier... that's some shitty luck if you ask me. Zest found himself knocked out mostly by zergs, with a 2-0 loss to Rogue as well as 2-1 losses to Leenock and DeParture (with a 2-1 loss to SKT's T Dream to thank as well) in addition to a loss to Symbol in the SSL Wildcard Bracket. soO, on the other hand, was knocked out by Bbyong, San, PartinG, and Rogue (with an additional loss to YongHwa in the Wildcard Bracket).
Other well-known players who failed to qualify for BOTH individual leagues include but are not limited to: jjakji, HerO, Stork, Trap, HyuN, DongRaeGu, TRUE, and Symbol.
There is a (surprisingly high, at least to me) total of TWENTY players who successfully qualified for BOTH individual leagues, a list that includes 7 protosses, 8 terrans, and 5 zergs and is as follows:
Dear, herO, PartinG, San, Super, Terminator, YongHwa
Dream, FanTaSy, GuMiho, INnoVation, MarineKing, Maru, TaeJa, TY
Dark, Life, Rogue, Solar, Soulkey
As it stands currently, the team demographics of the 64 slots that make up the two individual leagues is like this:
8 SKT, 7 JinAir, 5 CJ, 5 MVP, 5 YoeFW, 4 Invasion eSport, 4 KT, 4 Samsung, 4 StarTale, 3 Dead Pixels, 2 Acer, 2 Liquid, 2 Prime, 2 TCM, 1 Axiom, 1 Dignitas, 1 iG, 1 mYi, 1 RedBull, and finally 2 'teamless'
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While I m sad Bbyong didnt make it, I m extremely happy for Fantasy
Skyhigh didnt even try?
edit: he lost to Losira :-(
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DongRaeGu...
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NesTea, FlasH
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On December 15 2014 22:09 Hood. wrote:
I'm a little confused as to whether there is going to be a Code A this season. It looks like Flash, soO, and Zest aren't going to playing at all in this season's GSL. Am I wrong?
Code A will be back in Season 2.
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This is what I imagine Curious did to everyone after they lost yesterday.
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On December 16 2014 03:24 stuchiu wrote:This is what I imagine Curious did to everyone after they lost yesterday.
YO!
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The three prodigies in Code S. Life, Maru, and Taeja. Sick.
Go Gumiho!!!!
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lol, sOs didn't qualify for either tourney and MKP qualified for both? Sweet revenge is sweet
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Where dat snitch at?37021 Posts
That's just Daily eSports speculating that JD will play in WCS EU/AM. No confirmation whatsoever from JD himself.
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yay san but no sOs?
DONGRAEGU'S STREAK IS FUCKING OVER?! WHAT THE FLYING FUCK! GODDAMN YOU HEART!!!!
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On December 16 2014 02:59 Promised_pain wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 02:53 OtherWorld wrote:On December 16 2014 02:15 Gwavajuice wrote:On December 16 2014 02:03 OtherWorld wrote:On December 16 2014 01:35 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking? More proof that KeSPA players are overrated. More like a qualifier is unforgivable, subject to bracket luck and hardly indicates that some players are clearly above others in term of skill Yep but when you look at who Zest and Flash lost to, it's kinda disapointing... They are probably going through a slight slump. The fact that SSL and GSL qualifiers were held a few days apart didn't help, tbh. On December 16 2014 02:34 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 02:03 OtherWorld wrote:On December 16 2014 01:35 Promised_pain wrote:On December 16 2014 01:02 neptunusfisk wrote:On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:However, there were also many notable casualties, including one of the most lauded players of 2014: KT's Zest. His inability to qualify for GSL nor Spotv SC2 Leauge means that he will only be able to compete in Proleague and foreign events for the start of the year. 2014's perennial runner-up soO also misses out on both tournaments, ensuring that his streak of second place finishes in GSL ends at 4. Other important drop outs include Flash, sKyHigh, DongRaeGu, Classic, sOs, Bbyong and Stats. Another surprising result of the qualifiers was the high success rate of former WCS AM and WCS EU participants. TaeJa, Seed and Bomber both reached Code S after leaving for America, while First, MC, San, MMA, YoDa, and Heart dominated most of their brackets in order to make it back to Code S. Many observers predicted them to have a difficult time upon their return to their homeland, but "Koreigners" as they have been derisively called will make up 1/4 of Code S this season. The inaugural season of 2015 will feel almost like a retro-Code S due to the names that were able to qualify, and it will be interesting to see whether the big performers of 2014 that were knocked out in Code B will be able to retake their spots as the year progresses. Full results on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Qualifier So Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, sos, classic, bbyong and stats out? And Yoda, MMA, San, MC, Heart, Seed, Bomber Taeja, First in? Wat... next up, Mvp wins the whole thing two seasons straight against marineking? More proof that KeSPA players are overrated. More like a qualifier is unforgivable, subject to bracket luck and hardly indicates that some players are clearly above others in term of skill Let's see you say that once the season actually begins. This isn't broodwar where the KeSPA guys were basically untouchable. Anything can happen in SC2. Well yeah I'm not saying that this is Broodwar. But I seriously doubt people like Zest and soO are "overrated" because they lost two qualifiers held a few days apart, and are suddenly worse players than, say, Terminator or Panic. And Zest, soO, Flash, Bbyong and Stats were eliminated by KeSPA players. Yeah, maybe I put it wrong. I guess the Koreans in NA/EU are underrated then? I mean TaeJa is a great proof of that, dude is a beast. soO is still the nr.1 zerg for me, of course. Life close 2nd.
Hmm yes the Koreigners were definitely underrated. Tbh I'm really surprised MC made it, and jjakji almost made it too.
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MMA!!! Yeah, was scared he wouldn't qualify for any tournaments, after SSL qualifier, so happy and for Bomber. Maru, Taeja, Inno they were qualified for sure, but where is "God" alias Flash? and Zest and no soO? so no 5 consecutive finals for some1.
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On December 16 2014 03:15 kochanfe wrote:
There is a (surprisingly high, at least to me) total of TWENTY players who successfully qualified for BOTH individual leagues, a list that includes 7 protosses, 8 terrans, and 5 zergs and is as follows:
Dear, herO, PartinG, San, Super, Terminator, YongHwa
Dream, FanTaSy, GuMiho, INnoVation, MarineKing, Maru, TaeJa, TY
Dark, Life, Rogue, Solar, Soulkey
Hm I guess those 20 players are top picks for doing well during a weekend tournament. No idea how well the ones who aren't in Proleague will fare during the preparation based later rounds of GSL and SSL though.
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On December 16 2014 03:15 kochanfe wrote:
There is a (surprisingly high, at least to me) total of TWENTY players who successfully qualified for BOTH individual leagues, a list that includes 7 protosses, 8 terrans, and 5 zergs and is as follows:
Dear, herO, PartinG, San, Super, Terminator, YongHwa
Dream, FanTaSy, GuMiho, INnoVation, MarineKing, Maru, TaeJa, TY
Dark, Life, Rogue, Solar, Soulkey
I don't see that as surprising. The two qualifiers were very close to each other in time, so players with a good momentum qualified for both, while players with less momentum failed.
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On December 16 2014 03:06 Yakikorosu wrote:
I think the takeaway from the surprising results of the SSL/GSL qualifiers is a good one: Korea still has a strong and highly competitive SC2 scene that has no certainties.
Except PartinG. PartinG is now in Code S for 3 years straight no matter what format or name changes, no matter if he has to requalify or not.
It's been 3 years, 3 years since he gave his last fuck.
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Mvp didn't even show up makes me sad. Is the King of Wings gone for good?
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Looking at the groups I'm more surprised that Flash/sOs/soO/Zest didn't make it to Code S than that "Koreigners" made it to Code S
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Bisutopia19230 Posts
Other then Penguin, this is the least surprising list of players ever. I hope we get some new comers next year!
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The greatest SC2 tourney so far just happened in a blink of an eye. No vods.
What fallout.
MarineKing vs Life finals.
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On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL
Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers.
Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways.
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On December 16 2014 04:30 geokilla wrote:
Mvp didn't even show up makes me sad. Is the King of Wings gone for good?
He's only getting older and the injuries he's had in the past aren't something that just goes away especially if he's still practicing at all. His injuries are the type that will only fully heal from what I understand if he doesn't play at all since every time they get re-aggravated they don't heal. However, if he's not practicing much if at all then I doubt he can keep pace with the other top tier competition. Not a doctor tho so I could be completely wrong but I'm pretty sure I'm close to being right about this.
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On December 16 2014 04:35 dsousa wrote:
The greatest SC2 tourney so far just happened in a blink of an eye. No vods.
What fallout.
MarineKing vs Life finals.
MKP vs Rain or Life vs Rain finals.
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SSL and GSL seem pretty redundant, especially now that most of the players are the same.
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Terran prevails again
long live terran
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So many 2011 players. 2011 = golden age of SC2.
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On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways.
"Fail is better than 2nd" - soO
"OK" - Choya (Satan)
soO places 3rd in group both qualifiers.
And Zest confirmed patchtoss.
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I can't wait to feel the excitement from Tasteless and Artosis when they welcome all these great players back to Code S!
SSL and GSL seem pretty redundant, especially now that most of the players are the same.
It was the same in Brood War for the MSL and OSL, and it was a good thing. The same players qualifying for both tournaments means the game is more about skill and less about random luck.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss.
No
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anyone notice that curious is back XD
edit: HE BEAT sOs OUT NO LESS LOL
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Those qualifiers results are so strange... So many awesome players got left behind. Oh well, the level of play is still going to be mind-blowing.
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On December 16 2014 04:35 dsousa wrote:
The greatest SC2 tourney so far just happened in a blink of an eye. No vods.
What fallout.
MarineKing vs Life finals.
Just as I thought it would be impossible for me to hate Life any more than I already do, you find a scenario that could make it possible. I hope that never happens
Really though, no vods for the qualifiers? There had to have been some amazing games and story lines going into this that I'm missing out on.
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On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No
Yes
Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015.
Patchtoss.
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On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss.
Which patch are you talking about? The one when they nerfed protoss, or the other one when they buffed the other races? Pretty impressive to be a nerf-patchtoss in my opinion.
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On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss.
He wasn't a patchtoss but he definitely was riding his great PvP. For example in the Kespa cup he only played against Protoss for the whole tournament. His PvZ was also very strong and it wasn't a broken MU like PvT used to be in early 2014.
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On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss.
Well yeah. After all, IEM Toronto (finalist), KeSPA Cup (winner) and GSL Season 3 (Ro4, would have been finalist if CatZ hadn't saved soO) all happened right at the beggining of 2014. Sounds right. And since you're pretending his PvZ plummeted, we can also assume that there has been a patch nerfing Toss in ZvP recently, right?
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Austria24417 Posts
On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss.
It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad.
Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest.
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I guess it's because I only recently started posting on here that you guys are taking what I said really seriously. Guess I need to make it more obvious that everything I say is half in jest.
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Flash...
Luckily there is still Starleague. :D
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On December 16 2014 05:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss. It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad. Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest.
Zest and Seed have the same number of GSL wins.
Patchtoss confirmed.
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On December 16 2014 05:20 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss. It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad. Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest. Zest and Inca have the same number of GSL wins. Patchtoss confirmed.
That's.... not accurate.
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Austria24417 Posts
On December 16 2014 05:20 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss. It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad. Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest. Zest and Seed have the same number of GSL wins. Patchtoss confirmed.
Explain to me how Seed was a patchtoss. Because anyone who actually watched and understood SC2 back then will tell you that Seed was legitimately one of the two best players in the world for a while and it had nothing to do with protoss.
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On December 16 2014 05:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:20 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 05:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss. It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad. Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest. Zest and Inca have the same number of GSL wins. Patchtoss confirmed. That's.... not accurate.
I meant Seed. It's not nice to make fun of my dyslexia.
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On December 16 2014 05:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:20 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 05:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss. It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad. Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest. Zest and Seed have the same number of GSL wins. Patchtoss confirmed. Explain to me how Seed was a patchtoss. Because anyone who actually watched and understood SC2 back then will tell you that Seed was legitimately one of the two best players in the world for a while and it had nothing to do with protoss.
Christ, I'm obviously joking, but I've gotten you so riled up I think I should stop.
(DarkLordOlli confirmed Patchtoss apologist)
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On December 16 2014 05:26 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 16 2014 05:20 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 05:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss. It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad. Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest. Zest and Inca have the same number of GSL wins. Patchtoss confirmed. That's.... not accurate. I meant Seed. It's not nice to make fun of my dyslexia.
Again... not accurate
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On December 16 2014 05:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:26 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 05:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 16 2014 05:20 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 05:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss. It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad. Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest. Zest and Inca have the same number of GSL wins. Patchtoss confirmed. That's.... not accurate. I meant Seed. It's not nice to make fun of my dyslexia. Again... not accurate
Accurate. The only non-patchtoss is Stats. Just ask stuchiu.
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Austria24417 Posts
On December 16 2014 05:28 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:20 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 05:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss. It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad. Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest. Zest and Seed have the same number of GSL wins. Patchtoss confirmed. Explain to me how Seed was a patchtoss. Because anyone who actually watched and understood SC2 back then will tell you that Seed was legitimately one of the two best players in the world for a while and it had nothing to do with protoss. Christ, I'm obviously joking, but I've gotten you so riled up I think I should stop. (DarkLordOlli confirmed Patchtoss apologist)
Not exactly riled up, I'm trying to give you chances to make sense. Otherwise I'd have to interpret your posting as flamebaiting/blatant trolling
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the groups looks so imbalanced
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On December 15 2014 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
After the decision to restart Code S from scratch, there were many questions regarding the possible outcome of such a chaotic reshuffling of Korea's premier Starcraft 2 competition. Surprisingly, the first season of 2015 Code S will be one of the most diverse we have ever had. Only 3 teams will have 3 or more players in Code S this season: SKT T1, Jin Air Green Wings, and a revitalized MVP. 15 other teams will be represented this season, a record breaking turn out.
Startale has 3 players as well, right?
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On December 16 2014 05:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:28 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 05:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:20 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 05:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 16 2014 05:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:52 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 04:45 SackOfWetMice wrote:On December 16 2014 04:36 SoulmaN__ wrote:On December 15 2014 21:53 SuperHofmann wrote:soO not qualified in both SSL and GSL Ridiculously unfortunate aswell, taking 3rd place in both qualifiers. Man that's just bad, also not having Zest sucks. But they'll probably qualify next season and then get seeded into every season after that until eternity anyways. And Zest confirmed patchtoss. No Yes Zest has forgettable results outside the WCS 2014 season. It's eerie, really, how fast he rose at the beginning of 2014, beginning with the SKT all-kill. And now how fast he plummeted (his PvZ most, no less) in the beginning of WCS 2015. Patchtoss. It's eerie, really, how he'd been rank 1 on KR GM for quite a while before protoss became really strong. He qualified for IEM NY. Also, "pummeled"? I suppose when you're the best player in the world and winning everything you can only disappoint. Calling him a patchtoss is beyond ridiculous and you should feel really, really bad. Especially because PvT, the only matchup that protoss was heavily favored in for a while, was always his weakest. Zest and Seed have the same number of GSL wins. Patchtoss confirmed. Explain to me how Seed was a patchtoss. Because anyone who actually watched and understood SC2 back then will tell you that Seed was legitimately one of the two best players in the world for a while and it had nothing to do with protoss. Christ, I'm obviously joking, but I've gotten you so riled up I think I should stop. (DarkLordOlli confirmed Patchtoss apologist) Not exactly riled up, I'm trying to give you chances to make sense. Otherwise I'd have to interpret your posting as flamebaiting/blatant trolling
How very generous of you. :p
In all seriousness, Zest is obviously skilled; I'm simply using sarcasm to shed light on the weird results he's had recently. It doesn't make sense that the Zest we saw in 2014 loses to the people he's lost to in both the SSL and GSL qualifiers.
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On December 15 2014 21:52 FanaticCZ wrote:
Welcome back GomTvT!
Really? 12P/13T/7Z. There have been much worse spreads in GSL history. However, I do feel bad for our zergs. Can't wait to see 2015 map pool and if it will change things up matchup wise.
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Wow never seen so many elephants trampled in one day.
Nice to see more Terrans back in Code S. Too few Zergs though.
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How the hell does Yonghwa always qualify for big tournaments and then lose right away, yet we see superstar players like Zest and soo not qualify for either league?
Edit: Holy crap, Hack, Fantasy and Seed also qualified. Wasn't expecting that.
Edit2: Interesting to see all of the overseas Koreans come back and play very well in Korea. I guess the stigma that inferior players played in other regions was not really true considering how many of them qualified that weren't playing in GSL last year.
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Mvp didn't even show up makes me sad. Is the King of Wings gone for good?
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SEED IS BACK!!! Fuck yeah.
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On December 16 2014 05:51 Magnet wrote:
How the hell does Yonghwa always qualify for big tournaments and then lose right away, yet we see superstar players like Zest and soo not qualify for either league?
Edit: Holy crap, Fantasy and Seed also qualified. Wasn't expecting that.
yonghwa just happens to excel under those conditions, where as soO and Zest do not. I think different players just function better in tournaments with different amounts of "prep time" are given. This qualifier had 0, they had no idea who'd they be playing until the event started and basically no time to prepare for the next one between rounds.
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Zest has succeeded in only 1 out of 7 career attempts at an offline qualifier.
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I expect to see a lot of terrans winning this season. Most of them that qualified are extremely good players, and that mixed with fewer zergs and only 2 or 3 protosses that deserve code s. GL Penguin!!
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no Flash or either Zest?? Are they playing in SSL or anyway terran will dominate once again
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Top Players should stay victories everyhwere.
Week long preps for Bo1s, one GSL-Group or one Bo7 isnt everything. The Topplayers who attent to take the throne or at least sit next to it shouldt not have weaknesses, when they cant prepair week long for known enemys.
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On December 16 2014 06:00 duckk wrote:
I expect to see a lot of terrans winning this season. Most of them that qualified are extremely good players, and that mixed with fewer zergs and only 2 or 3 protosses that deserve code s. GL Penguin!!
Only 2? No one besides herO and Rain is worthy??
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On December 16 2014 05:51 Magnet wrote:
How the hell does Yonghwa always qualify for big tournaments and then lose right away, yet we see superstar players like Zest and soo not qualify for either league?
Because if you can't defeat Yonghwa at qualifiers, you are not worth the spot. It has always been this way.
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Top Players should stay victories everyhwere.
Week long preps for Bo1s, one GSL-Group or one Bo7 isnt everything. The Topplayers who attent to take the throne or at least sit next to it shouldt not have weaknesses, when they cant prepair week long for known enemys.
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No seeding at all.. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Flash wouldn't have made it, but soO and Zest should 100% be there... what the fuck is this? Pretty much the consensus best players in the world for 2014 with the only competition being from Life & Taeja.
Seriously can't fathom this. One bad day and your whole 2015 is fucked.
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Kinda funny that only 3 out of the top 8 requalified for Code S. This is quite a strange but cool line up, I'm really excited to see how this goes.
On December 16 2014 06:08 SpunXtain20 wrote:
No seeding at all.. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Flash wouldn't have made it, but soO and Zest should 100% be there... what the fuck is this? Pretty much the consensus best players in the world for 2014 with the only competition being from Life & Taeja.
Seriously can't fathom this. One bad day and your whole 2015 is fucked.
That can be said about literally any match anybody has on any one day. You want to win, you gotta put up results when the time comes.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On December 16 2014 06:08 SpunXtain20 wrote:
No seeding at all.. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Flash wouldn't have made it, but soO and Zest should 100% be there... what the fuck is this? Pretty much the consensus best players in the world for 2014 with the only competition being from Life & Taeja.
Seriously can't fathom this. One bad day and your whole 2015 is fucked.
Need a hug honey?
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the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against.
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On December 16 2014 06:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Kinda funny that only 3 out of the top 8 requalified for Code S. This is quite a strange but cool line up, I'm really excited to see how this goes. Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:08 SpunXtain20 wrote:
No seeding at all.. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Flash wouldn't have made it, but soO and Zest should 100% be there... what the fuck is this? Pretty much the consensus best players in the world for 2014 with the only competition being from Life & Taeja.
Seriously can't fathom this. One bad day and your whole 2015 is fucked. That can be said about literally any match anybody has on any one day. You want to win, you gotta put up results when the time comes.
Yes, but this is an ongoing tournament which deserves to have seeding. In 2012/13/14 etc. (my memory isn't 100% on this) but I'm quite sure the seeds of the previous year carried over, at least the top 8.
It's also even more important this time because there will be no Code A. Literally they've gone from finalists to off the radar for 4 months simply because of a new format change.. ridiculous
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On December 16 2014 06:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Kinda funny that only 3 out of the top 8 requalified for Code S. This is quite a strange but cool line up, I'm really excited to see how this goes.
And only 11 out of top 32.
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On December 16 2014 06:15 SpunXtain20 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Kinda funny that only 3 out of the top 8 requalified for Code S. This is quite a strange but cool line up, I'm really excited to see how this goes. On December 16 2014 06:08 SpunXtain20 wrote:
No seeding at all.. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Flash wouldn't have made it, but soO and Zest should 100% be there... what the fuck is this? Pretty much the consensus best players in the world for 2014 with the only competition being from Life & Taeja.
Seriously can't fathom this. One bad day and your whole 2015 is fucked. That can be said about literally any match anybody has on any one day. You want to win, you gotta put up results when the time comes. Yes, but this is an ongoing tournament which deserves to have seeding. In 2012/13/14 etc. (my memory isn't 100% on this) but I'm quite sure the seeds of the previous year carried over, at least the top 8. It's also even more important this time because there will be no Code A. Literally they've gone from finalists to off the radar for 4 months simply because of a new format change.. ridiculous
They gone from finalist to off the radar for 4 month simply because they could not bring it on the point when they had to.
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On December 16 2014 06:15 Trius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Kinda funny that only 3 out of the top 8 requalified for Code S. This is quite a strange but cool line up, I'm really excited to see how this goes.
And only 11 out of top 32.
Shows what stupid idea Bo3 qualifier brackets are. They make for nice stories for weekend tournaments. They aren't fit to decide the best 32players in the world.
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On December 16 2014 06:14 FeyFey wrote:
the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against.
Starcraft 2 is a volatile game. In BW, players were treated to no balance changes for the last decade of the game, with balance being tweeked slightly by maps and meta.
In SC2, there are new strategies being born and destroyed constantly by things completely out of the players' control. It's nigh impossible to stay on top of a game that fluctuates with this much volatility - indeed, Blizzard ensures this by nerfing anything that appears to become too strong. Innovation was knocked down in 2013 after Blizz nerfed hellbats as a direct response to his & Flash's usage of the unit.
There has to be some protection for the big guys from going down like this.
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Didn't know Min Chul was going to Korea.
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did I miss the stream? couldnt find it anywhere...
and gz to the millions of Zergs
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Austria24417 Posts
There was no stream
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There was no Stream. GSL Qualifiers are normally not streamed.
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On December 16 2014 06:15 SpunXtain20 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Kinda funny that only 3 out of the top 8 requalified for Code S. This is quite a strange but cool line up, I'm really excited to see how this goes. On December 16 2014 06:08 SpunXtain20 wrote:
No seeding at all.. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Flash wouldn't have made it, but soO and Zest should 100% be there... what the fuck is this? Pretty much the consensus best players in the world for 2014 with the only competition being from Life & Taeja.
Seriously can't fathom this. One bad day and your whole 2015 is fucked. That can be said about literally any match anybody has on any one day. You want to win, you gotta put up results when the time comes. Yes, but this is an ongoing tournament which deserves to have seeding. In 2012/13/14 etc. (my memory isn't 100% on this) but I'm quite sure the seeds of the previous year carried over, at least the top 8. It's also even more important this time because there will be no Code A. Literally they've gone from finalists to off the radar for 4 months simply because of a new format change.. ridiculous
Why are you so mad? KT's best toss is still in SSL and Proleague..
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 16 2014 06:17 SpunXtain20 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:14 FeyFey wrote:
the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against. Starcraft 2 is a volatile game. In BW, players were treated to no balance changes for the last decade of the game, with balance being tweeked slightly by maps and meta. In SC2, there are new strategies being born and destroyed constantly by things completely out of the players' control. It's nigh impossible to stay on top of a game that fluctuates with this much volatility - indeed, Blizzard ensures this by nerfing anything that appears to become too strong. Innovation was knocked down in 2013 after Blizz nerfed hellbats as a direct response to his & Flash's usage of the unit. There has to be some protection for the big guys from going down like this.
What would you propose as the fairest solution for the people that were forced to return to Korea despite placing at the top of their chosen WCS regions the season before? The WCS EU/AM top 8 had no choice, they had to come to Korea and participate in the qualifiers. It's rough, but I think it was fairest to equalize the playing field and make everyone do that.
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On December 16 2014 06:39 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:17 SpunXtain20 wrote:On December 16 2014 06:14 FeyFey wrote:
the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against. Starcraft 2 is a volatile game. In BW, players were treated to no balance changes for the last decade of the game, with balance being tweeked slightly by maps and meta. In SC2, there are new strategies being born and destroyed constantly by things completely out of the players' control. It's nigh impossible to stay on top of a game that fluctuates with this much volatility - indeed, Blizzard ensures this by nerfing anything that appears to become too strong. Innovation was knocked down in 2013 after Blizz nerfed hellbats as a direct response to his & Flash's usage of the unit. There has to be some protection for the big guys from going down like this. What would you propose as the fairest solution for the people that were forced to return to Korea despite placing at the top of their chosen WCS regions the season before? The WCS EU/AM top 8 had no choice, they had to come to Korea and participate in the qualifiers. It's rough, but I think it was fairest to equalize the playing field and make everyone do that.
Maybe top8 KR seeded + standard Code A with 48 slots (= top3 from qualifiers instead of top2) into 24 players qualifying to Code S could have worked as well
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On December 16 2014 06:39 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:17 SpunXtain20 wrote:On December 16 2014 06:14 FeyFey wrote:
the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against. Starcraft 2 is a volatile game. In BW, players were treated to no balance changes for the last decade of the game, with balance being tweeked slightly by maps and meta. In SC2, there are new strategies being born and destroyed constantly by things completely out of the players' control. It's nigh impossible to stay on top of a game that fluctuates with this much volatility - indeed, Blizzard ensures this by nerfing anything that appears to become too strong. Innovation was knocked down in 2013 after Blizz nerfed hellbats as a direct response to his & Flash's usage of the unit. There has to be some protection for the big guys from going down like this. What would you propose as the fairest solution for the people that were forced to return to Korea despite placing at the top of their chosen WCS regions the season before? The WCS EU/AM top 8 had no choice, they had to come to Korea and participate in the qualifiers. It's rough, but I think it was fairest to equalize the playing field and make everyone do that.
They shouldn't have been made to come back in the first place. Blizzard fucks around with its stupid WCS season every year and messes a tonne of players around doing so, and there's no evidence that this is going to be any better than 2014. If you're going to take responsibility for managing the entire e-sports system, taking a tonne of power off KeSPA and co, do it properly.
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On December 16 2014 06:49 SpunXtain20 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:39 Zealously wrote:On December 16 2014 06:17 SpunXtain20 wrote:On December 16 2014 06:14 FeyFey wrote:
the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against. Starcraft 2 is a volatile game. In BW, players were treated to no balance changes for the last decade of the game, with balance being tweeked slightly by maps and meta. In SC2, there are new strategies being born and destroyed constantly by things completely out of the players' control. It's nigh impossible to stay on top of a game that fluctuates with this much volatility - indeed, Blizzard ensures this by nerfing anything that appears to become too strong. Innovation was knocked down in 2013 after Blizz nerfed hellbats as a direct response to his & Flash's usage of the unit. There has to be some protection for the big guys from going down like this. What would you propose as the fairest solution for the people that were forced to return to Korea despite placing at the top of their chosen WCS regions the season before? The WCS EU/AM top 8 had no choice, they had to come to Korea and participate in the qualifiers. It's rough, but I think it was fairest to equalize the playing field and make everyone do that. They shouldn't have been made to come back in the first place. Blizzard fucks around with its stupid WCS season every year and messes a tonne of players around doing so, and there's no evidence that this is going to be any better than 2014. If you're going to take responsibility for managing the entire e-sports system, taking a tonne of power off KeSPA and co, do it properly.
But failing that - there should at least be a Code A where AM/EU/KR top 8 are guaranteed to be placed somewhere in the system. You can't simultaneously expand the playing field and reduce the tournament's size at the same time.
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no soO, Life, Flash, sOs, Zest ;(
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I'm fine with the huge reset. No one should have an advantage going into 2015 for WCS points.
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I don´t really get it. Others played better than soO and the rest of the "elite Kespa Players" and qualified. They had 2 chances to qualify for a big tournament so please stop the whining. There are still 2 seasons worth 4 Tournaments and then there are still Kespa Cups. They are not fucked or anything...
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Oh man, the salt. This would had been even better if we could had watched it live.
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Poor soO Reach 4 finals and get your seed taken away from you...
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while I'm bummed that soO and zest is out, if they failed to qualify then they failed to qualified. Should not blame the bracket when there are a ton of people that were able to qualify for both league. i still think they are the best for the respective race tho.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 16 2014 06:52 KappaKingPrime wrote:
no soO, Life, Flash, sOs, Zest ;(
Life is in
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On December 16 2014 03:15 kochanfe wrote:
Shockingly, the trio of soO, sOs, and Zest failed to qualify for BOTH StarLeagues. Incidentally, three of the four matches that led to sOs's elimination were 2-1 losses at the hands of Curious, who knocked him out of the winner's bracket of the SSL qualifier as well as both the winner's and loser's brackets of the GSL qualifier... that's some shitty luck if you ask me. Zest found himself knocked out mostly by zergs, with a 2-0 loss to Rogue as well as 2-1 losses to Leenock and DeParture (with a 2-1 loss to SKT's T Dream to thank as well) in addition to a loss to Symbol in the SSL Wildcard Bracket. soO, on the other hand, was knocked out by Bbyong, San, PartinG, and Rogue (with an additional loss to YongHwa in the Wildcard Bracket).
Other well-known players who failed to qualify for BOTH individual leagues include but are not limited to: jjakji, HerO, Stork, Trap, HyuN, DongRaeGu, TRUE, and Symbol.
There is a (surprisingly high, at least to me) total of TWENTY players who successfully qualified for BOTH individual leagues, a list that includes 7 protosses, 8 terrans, and 5 zergs and is as follows:
Dear, herO, PartinG, San, Super, Terminator, YongHwa
Dream, FanTaSy, GuMiho, INnoVation, MarineKing, Maru, TaeJa, TY
Dark, Life, Rogue, Solar, Soulkey
As it stands currently, the team demographics of the 64 slots that make up the two individual leagues is like this:
8 SKT, 7 JinAir, 5 CJ, 5 MVP, 5 YoeFW, 4 Invasion eSport, 4 KT, 4 Samsung, 4 StarTale, 3 Dead Pixels, 2 Acer, 2 Liquid, 2 Prime, 2 TCM, 1 Axiom, 1 Dignitas, 1 iG, 1 mYi, 1 RedBull, and finally 2 'teamless'
Interesting post.
Indeed 3 losses to Curious from sOs, two of them decisive. T_T
I remember Curious for being the zerg that beat innovation at the top of his form for in the qualifiers for IEM NY (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VIII_-_New_York/Asia_Final_Qualifier, it was also the first appearance for Zest as far as I'm concerned). At that moment I thought he'd be a new thing but he more or less disappeared (?). Here again in ZvP mode.
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Wow......really kind of sad that there is so few Zergs.... Poor soO .... >_<
EDIT :
13 Terrans
12 Protoss
7 Zergs
On December 16 2014 07:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:30 GGzerG wrote:
Wow......really kind of sad that there is so few Zergs.... Poor JaeDong and soO .... >_< Poor Jaedong? He didn't even try!
Ahh your right I wasn't thinking...just kind of always hoping to see JD in Code S I guess by default - -
..updated -,-
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On December 16 2014 07:30 GGzerG wrote:
Wow......really kind of sad that there is so few Zergs.... Poor JaeDong and soO .... >_<
Poor Jaedong? He didn't even try!
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No sKyHigh in GSL =(
Happy he made SSL though.
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As stated before my many, Zest and soO are in very big slumps. They should be beating the players that are beating them. It should have been either Zest or soO in the finals, at least, at Blizzcon. I don't know what happened to them, but they are not playing as well as they should be. These two are considered the best in the world at their race, but right now, they are in slumps that seems like it can't be recovered. I hope they recover soon. Code S won't be the same without Zest or soO winning or reaching the finals.
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Yay Marineking is in!! :D
Also go MMA and Fantasy!!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 16 2014 07:36 swag_bro wrote:
As stated before my many, Zest and soO are in very big slumps. They should be beating the players that are beating them. It should have been either Zest or soO in the finals, at least, at Blizzcon. I don't know what happened to them, but they are not playing as well as they should be. These two are considered the best in the world at their race, but right now, they are in slumps that seems like it can't be recovered. I hope they recover soon. Code S won't be the same without Zest or soO winning or reaching the finals.
Are you of the opinion that the success of other players cannot come without the slump of some? What if other players simply caught up, rather than Zest (and soO, though he has looked shaky) falling into some great magical slump? I'm sorry if you think Zest and soO are gods walking the earth, but other players are pretty good at the game too. Zest and soO not getting through may be an upset, but it's not like they lost 0-2, 0-2 in the first rounds of their respective qualifiers. Both got very close.
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United States10328 Posts
there were some super stacked groups, wow (morning group 4 and afternoon group 2, in particular)
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On December 16 2014 07:36 swag_bro wrote:
As stated before my many, Zest and soO are in very big slumps. They should be beating the players that are beating them. It should have been either Zest or soO in the finals, at least, at Blizzcon. I don't know what happened to them, but they are not playing as well as they should be. These two are considered the best in the world at their race, but right now, they are in slumps that seems like it can't be recovered. I hope they recover soon. Code S won't be the same without Zest or soO winning or reaching the finals.
I disagree that Zest is the best Protoss in the world. I don't think he's been that for a while - ever since he got stomped by TRUE in the Ro8 of GSL Season 2, to be exact. Currently I think there are arguments to be made for both Rain and her0 as the strongest Protoss.
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Interesting, this could turn out to be one of the best season to date.
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It's time. Marineking, come forth and take what you have been denied for so long. Mvp (the player) is no longer there to stop you. MVP (the team) is behind you.
I am looking forward to this season.
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On December 16 2014 07:56 Exitor45 wrote:
Interesting, this could turn out to be one of the best season to date.
false, this is the worst season to date, the reign of DRG is over, and just when we thought sOs came back, hes gone
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On December 16 2014 08:22 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:56 Exitor45 wrote:
Interesting, this could turn out to be one of the best season to date. false, this is the worst season to date, the reign of DRG is over, and just when we thought sOs came back, hes gone
DRG won one season like a decade ago.
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On December 16 2014 08:22 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:56 Exitor45 wrote:
Interesting, this could turn out to be one of the best season to date. false, this is the worst season to date, the reign of DRG is over, and just when we thought sOs came back, hes gone
What reign? DRG was hardly rocking GSL. And imo this season looks awesome. As always tbh
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The koreigners and esf players finally proves themselves superiors to kespa.
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wow the real korean powers have returned to korea to show who is the real hyungnims after all
its like they all went to vacation in NA and EU beaches, saw how their lower ranked mobsters they left in charge of korea were running their business not so good, and now the big bosses have come back to korea to fix things
....yea i have been watching those korean mob movies
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On December 16 2014 08:22 Cricketer12 wrote:DRG T_T
All the Poor Zergies !!!
#StayStrongZergies!
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On December 16 2014 08:22 Cricketer12 wrote:DRG T_T
It is pretty sad. DRG came close not once, not twice, but three times between SSL and GSL :/
Not to mention he's teamless and won't be in SPL.
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I'm sad Flash didn't make it ;(
I want Flash to be the best once again, plz!!!
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I read that list, then scrolled up and looked at the date. Thought this was a pre WCS Code S list lol
This is a good list of players!
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On December 16 2014 08:59 THM wrote:
I'm sad Flash didn't make it ;(
I want Flash to be the best once again, plz!!!
Good thing he's always fielded in Proleague, which will hopefully start soon-ish.
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Having a GSL with the toughest competition in the world again is an awesome thing.
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Good thing all these washed up Code B players who couldn't cut it in Korea anymore made it in 
...
Yes, that was sarcasm.
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On December 16 2014 07:51 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:36 swag_bro wrote:
As stated before my many, Zest and soO are in very big slumps. They should be beating the players that are beating them. It should have been either Zest or soO in the finals, at least, at Blizzcon. I don't know what happened to them, but they are not playing as well as they should be. These two are considered the best in the world at their race, but right now, they are in slumps that seems like it can't be recovered. I hope they recover soon. Code S won't be the same without Zest or soO winning or reaching the finals. I disagree that Zest is the best Protoss in the world. I don't think he's been that for a while - ever since he got stomped by TRUE in the Ro8 of GSL Season 2, to be exact. Currently I think there are arguments to be made for both Rain and her0 as the strongest Protoss.
I don't doubt he's skillwise one of the top 5 but I don't think there's much argument for Rain as the #1. As strong as he might be, he hasn't won a tournament in a year and that one (last year's Hot6ix Cup) was the only tournament he's won since HotS began (granted, he has multiple finals and semifinals finishes in major tournaments, which is why I say he's one of the top 5). I'd put herO, sOs and Zest ahead of Rain right now, and PartinG not too far off either.
All this talk about Zest falling off is ridiculous. There has never been a player that didn't have a bad streak. Even Mvp got knocked out of Code S for a season right in the middle of his reign of terror in 2011.
Edit: As a rough estimation of current form, I ran those 5 players' results (not ratings, actual game results) since September 1 in Aligulac (only offline matches against Koreans) and by percentage of games won I got:
1) herO (66%)
2) PartinG (61%)
3) sOs (59%)
4) Zest (57%)
5) Rain (54%)
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Someone finally put soO out of his misery. No 2nd place for him this season.
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sOs, soO, Flash, Zest, Stork...
What on Earth
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On December 16 2014 11:11 MrMotionPicture wrote:
sOs, soO, Flash, Zest, Stork...
What on Earth
Be honest, was Stork's and Flash's losses really that surprising..? They have not really performed that well in a while. I know Flash threw homestory, but that's it...
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Kinda sad DRG didn't make it. He has been such a mainstay in GSL.
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On December 15 2014 21:58 Jer99 wrote:
Looks like Zest is just another Dear in the headlights
Dear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zest
Zest is a player with no trademark, he is only good at pvp, and he got lucky brackets and soO in the finals. That is why he won the kespa cup and the gsl.
Dear, on the other hand, played GODLY series in his double royal road, against good opponents like Maru and Rain.
Dear will return this year, you'll see it.
And by the way, Curious is back bitches !!
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I just realized this because it's been a few months since I've seen him play but SuperNova didn't make it into either league (he actually didn't win a single match, losing his first matches to Patience and Billowy). And he's not participating in SPL either so unless he comes out in some kind of other team league for ROOT we probably won't see him at all. That makes me sad, I've always liked him for his creative mech-centric play.
Come on SuperNova, partner with MVP for SPL and create the ultimate SPL retro terran lineup: MarineKing/GuMiho/TaeJa/SuperNova.
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I'm really happy Fantasy made both leagues. He's exciting as hell to watch.
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On December 15 2014 21:52 FanaticCZ wrote:
Welcome back GomTvT!
Haha come on there is like 1 Terran more than Protoss. I get that people are disappointed with the relative lack of Zerg, but Protoss is very present as well.
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On December 15 2014 21:58 Jer99 wrote:
Looks like Zest is just another Dear in the headlights
That made me laugh way too hard.
Dear for GSL and SSL Champion 2015!!!
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On December 16 2014 11:04 NKexquisite wrote:
Someone finally put soO out of his misery. No 2nd place for him this season.
Nope, all that's happened is the specific details of his curse were clarified. It's not quite "always 2nd place" it's "always lose in finals":
SSL Qualifier: Loss in Winner's Finals followed by loss in Loser's Finals.
GSL Qualifier: Loss in Winner's Finals followed by loss in Loser's Finals.
He has stayed completely consistent with the curse after all.
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On December 16 2014 14:46 Yakikorosu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 11:04 NKexquisite wrote:
Someone finally put soO out of his misery. No 2nd place for him this season. Nope, all that's happened is the specific details of his curse were clarified. It's not quite "always 2nd place" it's "always lose in finals": SSL Qualifier: Loss in Winner's Finals followed by loss in Loser's Finals. GSL Qualifier: Loss in Winner's Finals followed by loss in Loser's Finals. He has stayed completely consistent with the curse after all.
Nah, the curse is that no matter what his goal is, he will always come one match short, One match short of requalifying for GSL, one match short of qualifying for SSL, one match short of a Dreamhack title, one match short of the last GSL title in 2013, one match short of the first GSL title in 2014, one match short of the second GSL title in 2014, one match short of the final GSL title of 2014, one match short of playing on the main stage at Blizzcon, one match short of SKT taking Proleague,
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I think this qualifiers threw up a lot of surprise, but kinda expected because there are tons of games for the players to study the games of say players like soo and zest. And Protoss being the race that needs to pull out surprising all ins to win is usually disadvantaged when you have to recycle your recent builds. Hence players like yonghwa did well.
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sick lineup, sory for Zest and soO, especially for Zest - most consistent player this year, but the fact that most EU/AM koreans made it makes me really happy. looks like korean individual is not the best league, or not by far, and this and this is the proof, if blizzcon was not enough. players like taeja, bomber, mma ar top koreans no mather the region.
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On December 16 2014 11:54 Apoteosis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 21:58 Jer99 wrote:
Looks like Zest is just another Dear in the headlights Dear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zest Zest is a player with no trademark, he is only good at pvp, and he got lucky brackets and soO in the finals. That is why he won the kespa cup and the gsl. Dear, on the other hand, played GODLY series in his double royal road, against good opponents like Maru and Rain. Dear will return this year, you'll see it. And by the way, Curious is back bitches !!
San and sOs have way more "trade marks" than Dear or Zest. herO and Rain have next to zero trade marks. And Zest's GSL win was Trap Leenock Maru Soulkey Dear sOs Rain soO. Lucky bracket my ass...
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On December 16 2014 11:54 Apoteosis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 21:58 Jer99 wrote:
Looks like Zest is just another Dear in the headlights Dear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zest Zest is a player with no trademark, he is only good at pvp, and he got lucky brackets and soO in the finals. That is why he won the kespa cup and the gsl. Dear, on the other hand, played GODLY series in his double royal road, against good opponents like Maru and Rain. Dear will return this year, you'll see it. And by the way, Curious is back bitches !!
Dear was the best Protoss for one month.
Zest was the best Protoss for, what, seven months? Eight months?
Yeah, more like Dear <<<< Zest (;
(also if having a trademark play makes you a good player then Rain is shit and Goody is godlike lol)
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Wow. I cannot agree with not giving last season's top 8 a seed into Code S. That's just brutal.
Not having Zest, soO, DRG, Flash, and Bbyong this season is really going to suck. On the other hand, Gumiho/Taeja/Yoda/MKP/MC/MMA make it bizarrely nostalgic. With new maps coming right before ro32 starts (right? ...right?), 2015 s1 will go down in the history books as that one season that made no sense whatsoever.
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On December 16 2014 16:06 jarod wrote:
sick lineup, sory for Zest and soO, especially for Zest - most consistent player this year, but the fact that most EU/AM koreans made it makes me really happy. looks like korean individual is not the best league, or not by far, and this and this is the proof, if blizzcon was not enough. players like taeja, bomber, mma ar top koreans no mather the region.
The skill gap isn't that big between players Koreans and koreigners isn't so big as compared to koreigners vs foreigners. We shouldn't read too much into this qualifiers. It's one big lucky draw. When the kespa invasion started, it was a gradual thing, but after 3 or 4 seasons of gsl, the best players will remain. There are too much chaos in this qualifiers, it all happen so fast. You do not know who you will be playing next. It's like going to dreamhack, but instead of getting a foreigner to stomp on the next round, you have another korean of similar level. The foreign tournaments hopping players like Taeja bomber MMA mc are more used to this type of format. As the seasons progress, we should see the preparation type players coming back to dominate.
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On December 16 2014 18:12 Samx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 16:06 jarod wrote:
sick lineup, sory for Zest and soO, especially for Zest - most consistent player this year, but the fact that most EU/AM koreans made it makes me really happy. looks like korean individual is not the best league, or not by far, and this and this is the proof, if blizzcon was not enough. players like taeja, bomber, mma ar top koreans no mather the region. The skill gap isn't that big between players Koreans and koreigners isn't so big as compared to koreigners vs foreigners. We shouldn't read too much into this qualifiers. It's one big lucky draw. When the kespa invasion started, it was a gradual thing, but after 3 or 4 seasons of gsl, the best players will remain. There are too much chaos in this qualifiers, it all happen so fast. You do not know who you will be playing next. It's like going to dreamhack, but instead of getting a foreigner to stomp on the next round, you have another korean of similar level. The foreign tournaments hopping players like Taeja bomber MMA mc are more used to this type of format. As the seasons progress, we should see the preparation type players coming back to dominate.
I'm wondering what people will say if those koreigners failed to qualify? As expected? Don't understand why people keep making excuses for those koreans that didn't qualified.
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On December 16 2014 18:53 Andykira wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 18:12 Samx wrote:On December 16 2014 16:06 jarod wrote:
sick lineup, sory for Zest and soO, especially for Zest - most consistent player this year, but the fact that most EU/AM koreans made it makes me really happy. looks like korean individual is not the best league, or not by far, and this and this is the proof, if blizzcon was not enough. players like taeja, bomber, mma ar top koreans no mather the region. The skill gap isn't that big between players Koreans and koreigners isn't so big as compared to koreigners vs foreigners. We shouldn't read too much into this qualifiers. It's one big lucky draw. When the kespa invasion started, it was a gradual thing, but after 3 or 4 seasons of gsl, the best players will remain. There are too much chaos in this qualifiers, it all happen so fast. You do not know who you will be playing next. It's like going to dreamhack, but instead of getting a foreigner to stomp on the next round, you have another korean of similar level. The foreign tournaments hopping players like Taeja bomber MMA mc are more used to this type of format. As the seasons progress, we should see the preparation type players coming back to dominate. I'm wondering what people will say if those koreigners failed to qualify? As expected? Don't understand why people keep making excuses for those koreans that didn't qualified.
It's not excuses. Take for example taeja. Taeja is a monster at weekend tournaments. Take on all comers. But when it comes to preparation type tournaments, it really isn't his cup of tea. Look at his record at WCS America. His play style and ability is more suited to all kill team leagues and weekend tournaments. But does that make him a bad player? No. He's still godly.
Some players shine when they have one week to prepare for 1 opponent. Or just 1 or 2 days to dissect the player's play style. Flash is such a player. His PL records are not to be scoffed at. But in a situation like the qualifiers, it is obviously going to be more difficult when you do not know who to prepare for. Or can you even finds enough recent videos for the player.
Hypothetically you are a progamer. You look at your bracket of say 24 players. You see seed, zest, penguin (just an example) in your bracket further down the road. Who do you prepare for?
I'm not saying one type of player is better than the other, but this qualifiers favours one type over another. While the tournament proper, favours another type. Just chill ya.
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On December 16 2014 12:19 ZenithM wrote:Haha come on there is like 1 Terran more than Protoss. I get that people are disappointed with the relative lack of Zerg, but Protoss is very present as well.
I know! Im not complaining at all. Im happy that theres as many terrans as there used to be back in 2012!
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Bad days for the zergs are comming... let's hope for a good race balanced matches. No sOs, Zest and soO wtf? Ok, I'm still happy for plenty of other pros, but still wtf :D :D
Sorry sOs, nobody cares you won Hot6 champ title... I don't know whether to laugh or cry...
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The zerg line-up is so weak I feel a little sad.
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soo and zest out. oh lawd.
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On December 17 2014 11:24 Shinespark wrote:
The zerg line-up is so weak I feel a little sad.
Only in numbers.
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