EPTI don't know why, but it just seems logical 'for them'.
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MChrome
Netherlands201 Posts
I don't know why, but it just seems logical 'for them'. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 01 2014 11:52 TotalBiscuit wrote: Fine by me. Stop giving WCS points to a tournament thats mostly about drinking and poker might be a good idea. MMA has always had a spot in the Axiom house. That hasn't changed. Awesome, wasn't aware of that thanks! | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On November 01 2014 08:36 Boucot wrote: Until july 2014, ForGG had a working visa (so the right visa). To renew it, he had to take french lessons but given that he lives with his girlfriend in Germany for around a year now it wasn't possible for him and chose to grab the same visas than HyuN/MC/other GEM guys had. Pretty sure that are plenty of places to learn French in Germany. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8635 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On November 01 2014 11:52 TotalBiscuit wrote: Fine by me. Stop giving WCS points to a tournament thats mostly about drinking and poker might be a good idea. MMA has always had a spot in the Axiom house. That hasn't changed. I wish HSC would be mostly about drinking and poker, but they don't even have a dedicated stream for that...  | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
Latin America is stupid region as North America and Latin America share some countries. Personally I'm looking forward to the scene next year. Two Korean leagues, unified foreign scene - great to watch. | ||
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Faefae
2203 Posts
On November 01 2014 19:33 JustPassingBy wrote: Pretty sure that are plenty of places to learn French in Germany. Unfortunatly forgg got a working-holiday visa 2 months ago. I don't know if you can have both visas at the same time? And i don't know if you can learn french in less than 2 months when all he probably learned while staying at the millenium gaming house was cursing  | ||
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Yelloooooooow
14 Posts
On November 01 2014 19:35 JustPassingBy wrote: I wish HSC would be mostly about drinking and poker, but they don't even have a dedicated stream for that... Totally agree, it could be very entertaining! :D | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
On November 01 2014 11:07 TotalBiscuit wrote: Here it is. Only thing I don't like is that they are letting the pseudo-invitationals continue and the rich will continue to get richer in that respect. 25% for qualifiers is not enough, particularly when you can then further break that down into regionals. HSC should not be getting WCS points when it's a glorified invitational inviting people TaKeTV likes plus lip-service to qualifiers with only 2 spots for Koreans (and the qualifier ends up being a better tournament than the main event as a result of the talent pool). Frankly it should be minimum 50% qualifiers if you want any WCS points and I hope they change that before 2015 season starts. I don't know why so many people try to fix a system broken by design with a system that is slightly less broken by design. Just remove WCS points from non-WCS events. Viewers don't care about them. Yes, some love to track stats and results or are a little bit more excited about the last events of the year that give them out. But it takes about the same amount of excitement out of the official WCS tournaments. Tournaments/organizers are probably more interested in Blizzard's promotion when they become a WCS-sanctioned event. There is no reason why not to continue promoting events without giving WCS points out. Only thing you could say is that it adds incentive to send players to otherwise lesser events. But would the travel budget be really smaller for teams without WCS points? | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On November 01 2014 19:15 HsDLTitich wrote: His working visa expired and then he only managed to get a working holyday visa. His girlfriend explained that on reddit: 1 2 3 Ah yeah that makes sense. Too bad for him though, it's a shame that this was not announced way earlier Edit : @SinCitta : How is giving WCS points to non-WCS events that are either 100% qualifiers (IEM) or open to anyone (DH) a broken system? I mean sure it's not perfect, but at least it makes sense to give points as long as anyone who has the skill can enter the tournament and win it. I love HSC and I watch the hell out of it, but giving WCS points to a tournament with 8 theorical qualified players (remember that last HSC two qualified players were replaced by two invites) on 32 players is not right. | ||
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HsDLTitich
Italy830 Posts
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vitka
6 Posts
I also checked the embassy and foreign office: not a single note that you need to speak german. especially for koreans it is quite easy to come to europe, as they are some kind of partners. the only thing you need: working contract. as we talking about professional players, they probably already have working contract with their sponsors/teams/whatever, if not, do it. | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
On November 01 2014 20:29 vitka wrote: I´m sorry guys, but who came up with the fact that you need to know the language to get working-visa? This is totally wrong! I can only speak for germany, but the best example: my flatmate is from south korea, doesnt speak a work, got his working visa even before arriving here! i know plenty of people coming outside from EU, who got working visa without problems, without knowing german. I also checked the embassy and foreign office: not a single note that you need to speak german. especially for koreans it is quite easy to come to europe, as they are some kind of partners. the only thing you need: working contract. as we talking about professional players, they probably already have working contract with their sponsors/teams/whatever, if not, do it. Players are most of the time not employees of their teams, but contractors. I think that complicates things. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On November 01 2014 20:29 vitka wrote: I´m sorry guys, but who came up with the fact that you need to know the language to get working-visa? This is totally wrong! I can only speak for germany, but the best example: my flatmate is from south korea, doesnt speak a work, got his working visa even before arriving here! i know plenty of people coming outside from EU, who got working visa without problems, without knowing german. I also checked the embassy and foreign office: not a single note that you need to speak german. especially for koreans it is quite easy to come to europe, as they are some kind of partners. the only thing you need: working contract. as we talking about professional players, they probably already have working contract with their sponsors/teams/whatever, if not, do it. Of course you don't need to speak the language to get a working visa. People need to stop talking out of their ass. However you are talking out of your ass too. You don't just need a working contract for a working visa you need a working contract with extreme requirements. For example in the Netherlands this is €38465 for people under 30 and €52462 for over 30. The reason why they can't get legitimate working visas is because those visas are only given out with extreme salary requirements and sports visas are probably out of reach for SC2. Additionally there are heavy financial health requirements to companies who want to bring in employees. Imagine if you could get a working visa for a $1500 contract can you imagine the insane amount of immigrants Europe would have to deal with? On November 01 2014 20:33 SinCitta wrote: Players are most of the time not employees of their teams, but contractors. I think that complicates things. This is true as well although it doesn't really matter since the amounts are nowhere near enough anyway. | ||
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vitka
6 Posts
On November 01 2014 20:33 SinCitta wrote: Players are most of the time not employees of their teams, but contractors. I think that complicates things. Yes, definitely, but then this problem should be named. Everyone (reddit and tl) is talking about language skills, which is totally wrong. And if this (employees/contractors status) is the only problem, then seriously, what are we talking about? give this man a cookie, eehm, contract. | ||
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ANLProbe
667 Posts
Also, since GSL ro8-finals will be getting a venue on a weekend. Does that mean that players won't be getting a week to prepare for each opponent? | ||
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Dingodile
4137 Posts
On November 01 2014 19:53 Yelloooooooow wrote: Totally agree, it could be very entertaining! :D Not allowed anymore to show it on stream. Blizzard updated their policy/rules for organizer shortly after HSC IV. | ||
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vitka
6 Posts
On November 01 2014 20:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Of course you don't need to speak the language to get a working visa. People need to stop talking out of their ass. However you are talking out of your ass too. You don't just need a working contract for a working visa you need a working contract with extreme requirements. For example in the Netherlands this is €38465 for people under 30 and €52462 for over 30. The reason why they can't get legitimate working visas is because those visas are only given out with extreme salary requirements and sports visas are probably out of reach for SC2. Imagine if you could get a working visa for a $1500 contract can you imagine the insane amount of immigrants Europe would have to deal with? My korean flatmate earned 1500€/month, startup architect company in Berlin. Other friends got working visa with their jobs in a cafe... | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On November 01 2014 20:40 vitka wrote: My korean flatmate earned 1500€/month, startup architect company in Berlin. Other friends got working visa with their jobs in a cafe... He should be very afraid. In all seriousness I obviously can't speak for your roommate but if I were to guess there are details to his situations that you are unaware of. | ||
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