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GOMeXP and SpoTV to run dual leagues in 2015 - Page 3

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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 31 2014 03:50 GMT
#41
On October 31 2014 12:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 12:47 stuchiu wrote:
On October 31 2014 12:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 31 2014 12:42 NovemberstOrm wrote:

Interesting, we'll see what that ends up being. Any insiders got any clues?


If I had to guess. Another Zest photo shoot.


OH MY GOD YES HYPE! Hopefully we get another shirtless pic

Yes, more fuel for the Nada's Body thread. Oh how I've missed these progamer photo shoots.
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Khrossant
Profile Joined January 2013
United States4 Posts
October 31 2014 03:52 GMT
#42
To me it sounds like the two major leagues still want to offer the best in the World a chance to prove themselves. (Also I bet all of the Koreans feel confident that wont hurt their chances at all to allow foreigners to try the qualifiers.)
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
October 31 2014 03:54 GMT
#43
More Starcraft to watch! Yay!
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2014 03:55 GMT
#44
On October 31 2014 12:48 Yelloooooooow wrote:
It's good to see more tournaments in Korea, but a what cost? :/

I'm not sure that decrease GSL prizepool to make more individual tournaments will be the best decision.

1 big tournament > 2 normal tournamets

Basically i think that is better stay with one big&glorious individual tournament bye GOMeXP than this "split". (and of course also one big&glorious team league on SpoTV)

Btw very happy for more Blizzard's contribute in KR scene.


This is more like 1 big tournament with slightly less prize money and 1 normal tournament with high prestige and prize money than 2 normal tournaments.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 31 2014 03:56 GMT
#45
The prize pool distribution was dumb to me anyways. I like this better.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 31 2014 03:58 GMT
#46
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2014 04:02 GMT
#47
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.


Foreigners will be much better off in WCS, for WCS AM and EU. Most foreigners don't deserve to go to Blizzcon anyway.

It might not be as bad as you think since with more opportunities in KR, less KR players will travel. Proleague will be going on too, and the non Proleague KR teams(other than axiom) are all dead now.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 31 2014 04:04 GMT
#48
On October 31 2014 13:02 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.


Foreigners will be much better off in WCS, for WCS AM and EU. Most foreigners don't deserve to go to Blizzcon anyway.

It might not be as bad as you think since with more opportunities in KR, less KR players will travel. Proleague will be going on too, and the non Proleague KR teams(other than axiom) are all dead now.


Oh, I agree, foreigners really haven't proven themselves worthy of Blizzcon. This helps even it up a little for the koreans who can't get out of korea much. And hopefully kespa teams learn from the fact that so many koreans are going to foreign teams and try and send there players around more.
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Yelloooooooow
Profile Joined October 2014
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 04:06:56
October 31 2014 04:04 GMT
#49
On October 31 2014 12:55 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 12:48 Yelloooooooow wrote:
It's good to see more tournaments in Korea, but a what cost? :/

I'm not sure that decrease GSL prizepool to make more individual tournaments will be the best decision.

1 big tournament > 2 normal tournamets

Basically i think that is better stay with one big&glorious individual tournament bye GOMeXP than this "split". (and of course also one big&glorious team league on SpoTV)

Btw very happy for more Blizzard's contribute in KR scene.


This is more like 1 big tournament with slightly less prize money and 1 normal tournament with high prestige and prize money than 2 normal tournaments.


Yes, you are right, what I meant was that I prefer that they have focused their energies on one tournament and make it the most prestigious possible.

On October 31 2014 12:56 stuchiu wrote:
The prize pool distribution was dumb to me anyways. I like this better.


Yeah, totally agree. And this now make me think about this "split" on individual leagues. Gap beetwen 1st and 2nd place was too big then, probably, this is the right decision.

EDIT: Also more WCS Points in Korea sounds good and fair, they deserve them.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 31 2014 04:04 GMT
#50
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.


Bear in mind that we don't know how many points these tournaments are getting. I like this solution a lot, personally. Adding more tournaments to the scene to create in Korea a scene filled in peripheral tournaments similar to overseas is the best solution to guarantee a fair distribution of points (adding more points to the GSL as people suggested before is by far an inferior solution). The fact that foreigners won't be better off isn't a bad thing. Region-lock will allow the foreign scene to develop hopefully, and whether they do better in WCS depends on them.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 31 2014 04:05 GMT
#51
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.

They're not decreasing the number of the tournaments going on outside of korea. It's just more fair to those extremely skilled players who never left korea (think Rain)
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 31 2014 04:05 GMT
#52
Is this more Kespa cups, or more OSL?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 31 2014 04:06 GMT
#53
On October 31 2014 13:05 Caihead wrote:
Is this more Kespa cups, or more OSL?

Seems more like Kespa cup to me.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 31 2014 04:06 GMT
#54
On October 31 2014 13:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.

They're not decreasing the number of the tournaments going on outside of korea. It's just more fair to those extremely skilled players who never left korea (think Rain)

That's exactly what I'm saying. I think this is a great thing for that reason!
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 31 2014 04:07 GMT
#55
On October 31 2014 13:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:05 The_Templar wrote:
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.

They're not decreasing the number of the tournaments going on outside of korea. It's just more fair to those extremely skilled players who never left korea (think Rain)

That's exactly what I'm saying. I think this is a great thing for that reason!

Oh, I thought you sounded worried about foreigners
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 31 2014 04:10 GMT
#56
On October 31 2014 13:07 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:05 The_Templar wrote:
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.

They're not decreasing the number of the tournaments going on outside of korea. It's just more fair to those extremely skilled players who never left korea (think Rain)

That's exactly what I'm saying. I think this is a great thing for that reason!

Oh, I thought you sounded worried about foreigners


Which foreigner deserves to go? Snute and Scarlett aren't good or consistant enough, Bunny is too fresh, and there's basically no one else
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2014 04:10 GMT
#57
On October 31 2014 13:05 Caihead wrote:
Is this more Kespa cups, or more OSL?


In what way? In terms of production it will be like Kespa cup since the same people are running this that did kespa cup, in terms of length of season it probably won't last as long as OSL/GSL normally do since it's only 16 players. They might stretch out qualifiers and broadcast them or something to increase season length, or just show a few matches a week.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
October 31 2014 04:11 GMT
#58
On October 31 2014 13:02 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.


Most foreigners don't deserve to go to Blizzcon anyway.

I disagree, I personally think it sucks that all the players at Blizzcon are from the same country when most of the audience is not from that country. It would be just like if the World Cup was all teams from EU and South America cuz they are the best. Well there's more to it than that IMO.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 31 2014 04:11 GMT
#59
On October 31 2014 13:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:07 The_Templar wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:05 The_Templar wrote:
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.

They're not decreasing the number of the tournaments going on outside of korea. It's just more fair to those extremely skilled players who never left korea (think Rain)

That's exactly what I'm saying. I think this is a great thing for that reason!

Oh, I thought you sounded worried about foreigners


Which foreigner deserves to go? Snute and Scarlett aren't good or consistant enough, Bunny is too fresh, and there's basically no one else


They should build a monument to Sen for saving the foreigners from another all kill this year.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2014 04:13 GMT
#60
On October 31 2014 13:11 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:02 Dodgin wrote:
On October 31 2014 12:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So with these tournaments all going now, it seems less likely that foreigners will be much better off in WCS... this is a lot of points to Korea.


Most foreigners don't deserve to go to Blizzcon anyway.

I disagree, I personally think it sucks that all the players at Blizzcon are from the same country when most of the audience is not from that country. It would be just like if the World Cup was all teams from EU and South America cuz they are the best. Well there's more to it than that IMO.


Just because you want to see them there doesn't mean they deserve to go. Blizzcon is for the most skilled players, It's not a form of WCG.
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