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aeligos
Profile Joined January 2013
United States172 Posts
October 28 2014 02:57 GMT
#41
I hope this means less commercial breaks and more game coverage. . . .
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
October 28 2014 04:21 GMT
#42
I'm going to miss seeing Robert at the awards ceremonies
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 28 2014 05:28 GMT
#43
On October 28 2014 11:57 aeligos wrote:
I hope this means less commercial breaks and more game coverage. . . .


They kinda need those breaks to get money...
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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
October 28 2014 06:07 GMT
#44
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
October 28 2014 06:44 GMT
#45
I have no idea who the DreamHack staff members are, but I am imagining them as HHH and Vince McMahon now...
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 08:45:25
October 28 2014 08:41 GMT
#46
On October 28 2014 04:32 sabas123 wrote:
wax posts is the most.... I don't even know how to describe it...

"Wrestling"

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Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
October 28 2014 09:59 GMT
#47
On October 28 2014 03:34 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 03:30 BaneRiders wrote:
On October 28 2014 02:14 Gwavajuice wrote:
I hope the first guy that build this "communication template for organization that fire people but want the customer base to not creep out" has some kind of royalties on it.

Like, every time someone writes these exact words "We would like to take the opportunity to thank XXX for the time and wish him the very best in the future." a dude on a beach at the bahamas receive a text from his banker informing him he can buy another new boat



Hehe agreed. Imagine a press release like this instead:

Is there an internal power struggle within DreamHack?
You bet your ass! The amount of backstabbing, name calling and beard pulling we've had between the board, the management and the employee federation has been freaking biblical in proportions. We tried to bring in mediators and negotiators with experience from middle east, but they just shook their heads and left for some easier assignments in IS-controlled areas in Iraq instead. I tell you, it aint been easy lately!

Has Robert been the subject of a Coup d'état?

Yes. This has been a long process in which over the past months the board and leadership within DreamHack has unanimously seen a need for change within the leadership of the company and communicated with Robert through various means like poisoned darts, nasty signed post-its, hidden spiders, honey traps, you name it. Hell, we even sold his desk on alibaba to some dude in Arizona, but he just wouldn't take a hint! It has not been something that has happened suddenly or overnight, I can tell you, oh no!

Why is the board relieving Robert as CEO at DreamHack?
We just can't stand the guy anymore. There is something about him that rubs us the wrong way these days. Besides, we have agreed to put one of our pals as the CEO. He might not be as qualified, but he's a good bloke and he does what he is told to without protesting or trying to reason or raising interesting points or challenging decisions in any kind of way. Our buddy, he is!

Will more employees leave DreamHack?
Ha! Just wait and see. Christmas is coming. Need I say more? Some people better shape up right now and they know it...

Will DreamHack stop with activity X or arrange competition in game X now?
We're pondering going into activity XX, and our consultants are already into activity XXX. Me, I'm having a glass of XXXX every now and then! How about that?



Tbh I would probably be a fan of a company that would do that type of press release, even if it's all fake and just for fun. Between your post and Wax's this thread way funnier than it should be d:

Pretty much, well at least it shows they're watching the reaction...
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 28 2014 10:48 GMT
#48
Wax's post. X-D

Although actually it'd really spice things up if they did it that way in esports. Imagine Marcus Lindmark coming out on stage at Dreamhack to have that conversation with Robert Ohlén before the finals. Though in the real world that'd probably result in being decked.
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
October 28 2014 11:31 GMT
#49
On October 28 2014 02:29 m4ini wrote:
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On October 28 2014 02:25 sd_andeh wrote:
Judging from Robert Ohlén's tweets, most of this press release is bullshit. But then again, who knows who's right?



We have a statement on one side, and a tantrum, passive aggressive tweets and general unprofessionality on the other. Not saying DHs statement is the correct one, but Ohlen doesn't do much to add to his credibility. He actually does exactly the opposite.

How would you be if the company you helped found and put a lot of work in suddenly kicks you out?
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 11:34:38
October 28 2014 11:33 GMT
#50
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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
October 28 2014 11:39 GMT
#51
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Seeker *
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Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
October 28 2014 11:57 GMT
#52
Wax's post was so fitting since it was the 1st reply in this thread.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45084 Posts
October 28 2014 12:04 GMT
#53
Well, looks like the Dreamhack organization certainly wins in terms of professionalism, providing (slightly) more insight into the situation, and less passive aggression than Robert Ohlen.

Good to hear an official statement being made instead of just going off Ohlen's obnoxious rage tweets.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 12:34:57
October 28 2014 12:30 GMT
#54
On October 28 2014 20:33 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 02:29 m4ini wrote:
On October 28 2014 02:25 sd_andeh wrote:
Judging from Robert Ohlén's tweets, most of this press release is bullshit. But then again, who knows who's right?

We have a statement on one side, and a tantrum, passive aggressive tweets and general unprofessionality on the other. Not saying DHs statement is the correct one, but Ohlen doesn't do much to add to his credibility. He actually does exactly the opposite.

I'll take honest anger over dressed up niceties any day of the week.

Frankly, the word "professionalism" is used far too often as an excuse for blatant lying in these kinds of situation. Not that I am saying that anyone here is actually lying.


There's no honest anger, what kind of definitions do you have? There's a spiteful, bitching arse out there, who literally does nothing but trying to taint DH reputation without actually having an explanation why - how's that a statement "fueled by honest anger"? He doesn't do or say anything, he's simply being passive aggressive, which isn't even remotely "honest anger".

Not to mention that, since he doesn't disclose what "actually happened" (assuming that DH lied, which he implies, but doesn't say, which is exactly what kids in puberty do), the only reasonable thing to do is to assume that there is nothing that "actually happened". He got fired. His tweets show clearly, that there might be a reason, since apart from being spiteful, passive aggressive and slanderous - nothing comes from him.

Btw, professionalism in official statements doesn't mean "lying". It's bullshit. It means, you ignore questions that kinda feel iffy to answer to. Which DH didn't. A professional statement has alot of words, but doesn't answer any questions, which the DH statement did (they even tried to answer to the conspiracy-theories). I have yet to see a statement of a reasonably sized company with a good name that straight out lied.

How would you be if the company you helped found and put a lot of work in suddenly kicks you out?


Depends. What if you change "suddenly kicks you out" to "fires you for a reason"?

edit: people here assume that DH did Ohlen wrong, but so far, there's literally NO "evidence" pointing to that. None. The only thing we have is a statement from DH, and nothing from Ohlen. Would you act like this if somebody fires you unrightfully, or would you try to explain WHY it was unrightful rather than slandering? I know i would try to make people understand why i rage, to not look like a fricking spiteful idiot.
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 28 2014 12:44 GMT
#55
On October 28 2014 20:31 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 02:29 m4ini wrote:
On October 28 2014 02:25 sd_andeh wrote:
Judging from Robert Ohlén's tweets, most of this press release is bullshit. But then again, who knows who's right?



We have a statement on one side, and a tantrum, passive aggressive tweets and general unprofessionality on the other. Not saying DHs statement is the correct one, but Ohlen doesn't do much to add to his credibility. He actually does exactly the opposite.

How would you be if the company you helped found and put a lot of work in suddenly kicks you out?


Robert didn't found DreamHack. He came on board almost a decade after the festival started. And from what I've heard and read, his takeover of the company in 2009-11 wasn't exactly bloodfree either.
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Cheeseling
Profile Joined March 2012
Ukraine132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 13:35:24
October 28 2014 13:06 GMT
#56
Smells like standard PR BS with extra BS on top. When someone puts so much BS in a statement you know that the company is in a trouble.
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
October 28 2014 13:48 GMT
#57
How is this bullshit? There is literally nothing for them to refute other than vague accusations and third party theories based off of those accusations. Based on Roberts behavior they might as well be trying to save his face.
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
October 28 2014 20:40 GMT
#58
On October 28 2014 03:30 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 02:14 Gwavajuice wrote:
I hope the first guy that build this "communication template for organization that fire people but want the customer base to not creep out" has some kind of royalties on it.

Like, every time someone writes these exact words "We would like to take the opportunity to thank XXX for the time and wish him the very best in the future." a dude on a beach at the bahamas receive a text from his banker informing him he can buy another new boat



Hehe agreed. Imagine a press release like this instead:

Is there an internal power struggle within DreamHack?
You bet your ass! The amount of backstabbing, name calling and beard pulling we've had between the board, the management and the employee federation has been freaking biblical in proportions. We tried to bring in mediators and negotiators with experience from middle east, but they just shook their heads and left for some easier assignments in IS-controlled areas in Iraq instead. I tell you, it aint been easy lately!

Has Robert been the subject of a Coup d'état?

Yes. This has been a long process in which over the past months the board and leadership within DreamHack has unanimously seen a need for change within the leadership of the company and communicated with Robert through various means like poisoned darts, nasty signed post-its, hidden spiders, honey traps, you name it. Hell, we even sold his desk on alibaba to some dude in Arizona, but he just wouldn't take a hint! It has not been something that has happened suddenly or overnight, I can tell you, oh no!

Why is the board relieving Robert as CEO at DreamHack?
We just can't stand the guy anymore. There is something about him that rubs us the wrong way these days. Besides, we have agreed to put one of our pals as the CEO. He might not be as qualified, but he's a good bloke and he does what he is told to without protesting or trying to reason or raising interesting points or challenging decisions in any kind of way. Our buddy, he is!

Will more employees leave DreamHack?
Ha! Just wait and see. Christmas is coming. Need I say more? Some people better shape up right now and they know it...

Will DreamHack stop with activity X or arrange competition in game X now?
We're pondering going into activity XX, and our consultants are already into activity XXX. Me, I'm having a glass of XXXX every now and then! How about that?



11/10

Will print this and bang it.
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MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
October 28 2014 21:06 GMT
#59
On October 28 2014 15:07 Scrubwave wrote:
Wonder if this has something to do with telling Huk that the gamergate thing is "retards".
One heck of a way to shit on probably a large chunk of your fanbase, genius.

Not related. See http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23177900
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 28 2014 21:55 GMT
#60
I was never aware Dream Hack needed a CEO, thought it was just a gathering of gamers. That tells me how much I follow mainstream games such as SC2 and LoL.
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