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Robert Ohlen removed as DreamHack CEO [Updated] - Page 6

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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 26 2014 00:19 GMT
#101
On October 26 2014 09:05 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:00 Luolis wrote:
On October 26 2014 08:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote:
Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?

and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.

How is this weird?

Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.


Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.
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saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-26 00:21:39
October 26 2014 00:20 GMT
#102
On October 26 2014 08:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote:
Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?

Basically he was making a serious mockery out of the dota2 tournement with stuff like forcing teams playing against a team with a standin to deactivate one of their own players and get a stand in with zero prior notice, and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff. It was getting to the point of damaging their brand with sponsors and veiwers.

Are you implying he was making the decisions for an admin in a small online qualifier for another qualifier? That had nothing to do with Robert Ohlen.

Also, the Finland thing was blown way out of proportions, and it was NOT EVEN IN DREAMLEAGUE. It was for Dotapit team league Season 2 which is run by HighGround TV.

If you think there was some hidden conspiracy where Robert Ohlen was trying to damage Dreamhacks brand in Dota 2, then I would like to see some proof.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
October 26 2014 00:21 GMT
#103
this is lame as hell. I wonder why he got booted


Also, whats this gamergate thing?
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-26 00:25:41
October 26 2014 00:23 GMT
#104
On October 26 2014 09:19 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:05 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:00 Luolis wrote:
On October 26 2014 08:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote:
Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?

and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.

How is this weird?

Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.


Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.


No, even as a layman i understood that pretty easy. EU team forced to play on NA = disadvantage.

Is that CEO swedish? Because that would be awkward. ^^

I don't think his CEO skills depend on this.


Apart from the obvious spelling mistakes which can happen, his behaviour is far from someone i would consider CEO-material. I know the onlinecommunity loves people like that, because it adds drama - but it's unprofessional nonetheless.
On track to MA1950A.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-26 00:24:16
October 26 2014 00:23 GMT
#105
On October 26 2014 09:13 creamyturtle wrote:
he spelled "your" wrong. this guy was the CEO?

Well as he was just fired and busy wishing pox upon houses I'm sure he wasn't fully focused on grammar of a second language in his personal tweet. I don't think his CEO skills depend on this.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 26 2014 00:24 GMT
#106
On October 26 2014 09:20 saksy2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 08:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote:
Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?

Basically he was making a serious mockery out of the dota2 tournement with stuff like forcing teams playing against a team with a standin to deactivate one of their own players and get a stand in with zero prior notice, and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff. It was getting to the point of damaging their brand with sponsors and veiwers.

Are you implying he was making the decisions for an admin in a small online qualifier for another qualifier? That had nothing to do with Robert Ohlen.

Also, the Finland thing was blown way out of proportions, and it was NOT EVEN IN DREAMLEAGUE. It was for Dotapit team league Season 2 which is run by HighGround TV.

If you think there was some hidden conspiracy where Robert Ohlen was trying to damage Dreamhacks brand in Dota 2, then I would like to see some proof.

I'm not implying a conspiracy, I'm implying he was bad at his job
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-26 00:27:34
October 26 2014 00:26 GMT
#107
On October 26 2014 09:23 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:19 pure.Wasted wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:05 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:00 Luolis wrote:
On October 26 2014 08:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote:
Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?

and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.

How is this weird?

Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.


Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.


No, even as a layman i understood that pretty easy. EU team forced to play on NA = disadvantage.

Is that CEO swedish? Because that would be awkward. ^^


I get that part, but why the hell is the qualifier set up such that teams that are categorized as "EU" play in "NA" to begin with? It's completely counter-intuitive.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
October 26 2014 00:32 GMT
#108
On October 26 2014 09:26 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:23 m4ini wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:19 pure.Wasted wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:05 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:00 Luolis wrote:
On October 26 2014 08:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote:
Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?

and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.

How is this weird?

Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.


Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.


No, even as a layman i understood that pretty easy. EU team forced to play on NA = disadvantage.

Is that CEO swedish? Because that would be awkward. ^^


I get that part, but why the hell is the qualifier set up such that teams that are categorized as "EU" play in "NA" to begin with? It's completely counter-intuitive.


Beats me. I think people try to put it on him, since he's a swede. Swedes and finns don't really get along, at least that's what i gathered from a swedish friend of mine.

Obviously, i got no opinion on that, since i didn't follow anything in that regard, most likely some made-up bullshit like it usually is with those things, and then blown out of proportion.
On track to MA1950A.
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
October 26 2014 00:35 GMT
#109
A CEO getting "removed" from the job, seemingly out of blue, is never a good sign.
Let's see how it will affects the DH events in late 2015 / 2016.
MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
October 26 2014 00:36 GMT
#110
On October 26 2014 07:16 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 07:04 LastManProductions wrote:
Whats this gamergate thing?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy

People are using the tag as an excusde for a lot of bullshit.
Calling most of the pople that rally themselves to this debate idiots is really not far fetched. It's a toxic debate about toxicity basically.

That article is a huge mess and not an accurate description of the controversy. Just read the talk page and its archived versions. Even the wikipedia founder, Jimmy Wales, has admitted that it was not in a good shape some time ago.

If someone really want to read about it, they would be better of with:
http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/25/gamergate-an-issue-with-2-sides/
or
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/09/04/gamergate-a-closer-look-at-the-controversy-sweeping-video-games/ and http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/10/09/gamergate-is-not-a-hate-group-its-a-consumer-movement/
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 26 2014 00:37 GMT
#111
On October 26 2014 09:32 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:26 pure.Wasted wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:23 m4ini wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:19 pure.Wasted wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:05 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:00 Luolis wrote:
On October 26 2014 08:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote:
Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?

and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.

How is this weird?

Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.


Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.


No, even as a layman i understood that pretty easy. EU team forced to play on NA = disadvantage.

Is that CEO swedish? Because that would be awkward. ^^


I get that part, but why the hell is the qualifier set up such that teams that are categorized as "EU" play in "NA" to begin with? It's completely counter-intuitive.


Beats me. I think people try to put it on him, since he's a swede. Swedes and finns don't really get along, at least that's what i gathered from a swedish friend of mine.

Obviously, i got no opinion on that, since i didn't follow anything in that regard, most likely some made-up bullshit like it usually is with those things, and then blown out of proportion.

The problem was that there was single western division, so the catergories were only for servers. For NA vs EU West playing on NA is slightly more fair in terms of ping, but for EU East VS NA EU West is a lot closer to fair.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
October 26 2014 00:46 GMT
#112
typical ESPORTS political bullshit, who is honestly surprised.
Commentator
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
October 26 2014 00:49 GMT
#113
On October 26 2014 09:46 GTR wrote:
typical ESPORTS political bullshit, who is honestly surprised.


Typical how? There's very little details available. Whos and whats are not made public except for Robert Ohlen being removed. If anyone can enlighten me on this, I would appreciate it.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
October 26 2014 00:51 GMT
#114
Guess we know the new CEO?

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
October 26 2014 00:56 GMT
#115
On October 26 2014 09:46 GTR wrote:
typical ESPORTS political bullshit, who is honestly surprised.


truth
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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
October 26 2014 00:57 GMT
#116
Déjà vu.
Graphics
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 26 2014 00:58 GMT
#117
I did never really understand what his job was anyway (other than opening champagne bottles)?
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 26 2014 01:06 GMT
#118
On October 26 2014 09:58 aTnClouD wrote:
I did never really understand what his job was anyway (other than opening champagne bottles)?


Running the company of DreamHack. Duh.
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 26 2014 01:18 GMT
#119
On October 26 2014 10:06 Darkdwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:58 aTnClouD wrote:
I did never really understand what his job was anyway (other than opening champagne bottles)?


Running the company of DreamHack. Duh.

Yeah ok, but was he actually doing anything close to working like the other employees do? Cause it didn't look like that from the outside.
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 26 2014 01:32 GMT
#120
This guy always helped the noob korean champagne openers how to open the god damn champagne and spray it. Wtf happened.
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