On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote: Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?
and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.
How is this weird?
Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.
Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote: Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?
Basically he was making a serious mockery out of the dota2 tournement with stuff like forcing teams playing against a team with a standin to deactivate one of their own players and get a stand in with zero prior notice, and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff. It was getting to the point of damaging their brand with sponsors and veiwers.
Are you implying he was making the decisions for an admin in a small online qualifier for another qualifier? That had nothing to do with Robert Ohlen.
Also, the Finland thing was blown way out of proportions, and it was NOT EVEN IN DREAMLEAGUE. It was for Dotapit team league Season 2 which is run by HighGround TV.
If you think there was some hidden conspiracy where Robert Ohlen was trying to damage Dreamhacks brand in Dota 2, then I would like to see some proof.
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote: Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?
and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.
How is this weird?
Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.
Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.
No, even as a layman i understood that pretty easy. EU team forced to play on NA = disadvantage.
Is that CEO swedish? Because that would be awkward. ^^
I don't think his CEO skills depend on this.
Apart from the obvious spelling mistakes which can happen, his behaviour is far from someone i would consider CEO-material. I know the onlinecommunity loves people like that, because it adds drama - but it's unprofessional nonetheless.
On October 26 2014 09:13 creamyturtle wrote: he spelled "your" wrong. this guy was the CEO?
Well as he was just fired and busy wishing pox upon houses I'm sure he wasn't fully focused on grammar of a second language in his personal tweet. I don't think his CEO skills depend on this.
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote: Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?
Basically he was making a serious mockery out of the dota2 tournement with stuff like forcing teams playing against a team with a standin to deactivate one of their own players and get a stand in with zero prior notice, and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff. It was getting to the point of damaging their brand with sponsors and veiwers.
Are you implying he was making the decisions for an admin in a small online qualifier for another qualifier? That had nothing to do with Robert Ohlen.
Also, the Finland thing was blown way out of proportions, and it was NOT EVEN IN DREAMLEAGUE. It was for Dotapit team league Season 2 which is run by HighGround TV.
If you think there was some hidden conspiracy where Robert Ohlen was trying to damage Dreamhacks brand in Dota 2, then I would like to see some proof.
I'm not implying a conspiracy, I'm implying he was bad at his job
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote: Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?
and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.
How is this weird?
Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.
Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.
No, even as a layman i understood that pretty easy. EU team forced to play on NA = disadvantage.
Is that CEO swedish? Because that would be awkward. ^^
I get that part, but why the hell is the qualifier set up such that teams that are categorized as "EU" play in "NA" to begin with? It's completely counter-intuitive.
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote: Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?
and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.
How is this weird?
Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.
Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.
No, even as a layman i understood that pretty easy. EU team forced to play on NA = disadvantage.
Is that CEO swedish? Because that would be awkward. ^^
I get that part, but why the hell is the qualifier set up such that teams that are categorized as "EU" play in "NA" to begin with? It's completely counter-intuitive.
Beats me. I think people try to put it on him, since he's a swede. Swedes and finns don't really get along, at least that's what i gathered from a swedish friend of mine.
Obviously, i got no opinion on that, since i didn't follow anything in that regard, most likely some made-up bullshit like it usually is with those things, and then blown out of proportion.
People are using the tag as an excusde for a lot of bullshit. Calling most of the pople that rally themselves to this debate idiots is really not far fetched. It's a toxic debate about toxicity basically.
That article is a huge mess and not an accurate description of the controversy. Just read the talk page and its archived versions. Even the wikipedia founder, Jimmy Wales, has admitted that it was not in a good shape some time ago.
On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote: Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack?
and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff.
How is this weird?
Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams.
Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense.
No, even as a layman i understood that pretty easy. EU team forced to play on NA = disadvantage.
Is that CEO swedish? Because that would be awkward. ^^
I get that part, but why the hell is the qualifier set up such that teams that are categorized as "EU" play in "NA" to begin with? It's completely counter-intuitive.
Beats me. I think people try to put it on him, since he's a swede. Swedes and finns don't really get along, at least that's what i gathered from a swedish friend of mine.
Obviously, i got no opinion on that, since i didn't follow anything in that regard, most likely some made-up bullshit like it usually is with those things, and then blown out of proportion.
The problem was that there was single western division, so the catergories were only for servers. For NA vs EU West playing on NA is slightly more fair in terms of ping, but for EU East VS NA EU West is a lot closer to fair.
On October 26 2014 09:46 GTR wrote: typical ESPORTS political bullshit, who is honestly surprised.
Typical how? There's very little details available. Whos and whats are not made public except for Robert Ohlen being removed. If anyone can enlighten me on this, I would appreciate it.
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