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Robert Ohlen removed as DreamHack CEO [Updated] - Page 4

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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#61
On October 26 2014 06:50 Caihead wrote:
Probably typical corporate bs, get bonuses for screwing over the public and employees, get fired for having good ideas.


Jumping the gun here aren't we? Pretty sure most of us only have surface level impressions of him at best.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
LastManProductions
Profile Joined September 2013
United States252 Posts
October 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#62
Whats this gamergate thing?
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 25 2014 22:05 GMT
#63
On October 26 2014 06:49 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 06:15 sumsaR wrote:
On October 26 2014 05:53 Aceii wrote:
On October 26 2014 05:45 Kipsate wrote:
Sounds like he got fired, I hope its not because of the Dreamleague fiasco(seems VERY unlikely). Odd because I felt like he ran it well.


What a 'Dreamleague fiasco' ?

Dreamleague is DH's Dota 2 league. They announced their qualifiers and stuff just a few days before it was to begin, causing quite some issues within the pro teams and schedules (teams usually have that scheduled several weeks in advance). Forced teams to scramble and reschedule a bunch of shit just to fit in DH.

The format's crazy and shit (long ass qualifiers, followed by a lan qualifier, followed by a lan —something along those lines).

Then they moved the qualifier a day forward due to crap, causing even more issues (as teams had already rescheduled shit). Then add to it that it was basically a full day of games for the teams participating.

Then Nukes (the head admin) was involved in a controversy when a team got a forfeit due to miscommunication (told the team's manager they could go sleep, but they still gave them a loss later when they couldn't play a match). Lots of drama, and bullshitting from Hellspawn (who only said that Nukes had been replaced, not admitting any fault). Then they got to play the match, but as their opp team needed a standin they had to play with one as well (lots of wtf).

More admin issues.

And probably something else I've forgotten.

Basically the GD Studio has handled the Dreamleague previously, but this time they're only a hired talent taking care of the casting. First time DH is running it themselves. People are in agreement it's shit this time around because James & Co aren't involved in the planning and running of it.
Dreamleague had admin issues when GD Studio were handling it as well. (Do people not remember the first DH event run by GD Studio? Admin drama every week)

Either way, this has nothing to do with Dreamleague. The Dreamleague 'fiasco' is just some poor planning and bad admining, nothing that wouldn't be forgotten in a month unless they keep fucking up.

This sounds like it was a long time coming. And it's hardly surprising that DH might have internal issues with a CEO like Robert. As much as I like him as a personality, we really can't tell (by we I'm obviously excluding some on this forum who might have insider knowledge) if this decision is good or bad for the company.

And him saying the decision is based on greed, well one could argue that every business decision is based on greed, it doesn't really have much credence as a moral argument for if the decision is right or wrong without knowing the specifics.

Given his rhetoric it's pretty safe to assume he didn't expect this at all. If people have a problem with him and that haven't been somehow communicated to him instead of arranging some kind of "take-over," that would indicate some dubious morals by the people responsible. Maybe it's a business decision, maybe it's some kind of personal grudge, but in any case it seems to have been handled quite poorly. Naturally it could just be Robert being overly dramatic and emo on twitter and doesn't necessarily indicate the nature of the situation. We'll just have to wait and see.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 25 2014 22:08 GMT
#64
On October 26 2014 07:04 LastManProductions wrote:
Whats this gamergate thing?

Depends on who you ask, just google if you want to read a whole load of shitfest. The "gamergate thing" in connection to this is that Robert called out people using that hashtag on twitter as "retards" and got some backlash for it. I doubt him being fired is directly connected that other than maybe additional ammunition by whatever spurred him being fired.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
October 25 2014 22:10 GMT
#65
Internal power struggle?
I always liked Robert, tragic to see him go in what appears to be a coup
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 25 2014 22:16 GMT
#66
On October 26 2014 07:04 LastManProductions wrote:
Whats this gamergate thing?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy

People are using the tag as an excusde for a lot of bullshit.
Calling most of the pople that rally themselves to this debate idiots is really not far fetched. It's a toxic debate about toxicity basically.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
October 25 2014 22:26 GMT
#67
Does it mean that Naniwa will be back? (to SC2 pro gaming?)
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TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
October 25 2014 22:27 GMT
#68
Robert always been a big supporter of sc2. He always appeared to me well spoken and intelligent. I wish him the best in the future and hopefully we get to the bottom of this.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 25 2014 22:32 GMT
#69
On October 26 2014 06:37 slytown wrote:
Yikes. I thought Robert did a great job. Let's hold our judgement till all the info is out.

the official statement points to this being a power thing and nothing to do with performance. Just difference in what the board and Robert wanted.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
October 25 2014 22:32 GMT
#70
Don't hijack the thread with gamergate stuff, please.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 22:36:41
October 25 2014 22:34 GMT
#71
nvm
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IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
October 25 2014 22:37 GMT
#72
Let's see how this effects StarCraft 2 :/
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
October 25 2014 22:42 GMT
#73
On October 26 2014 07:16 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 07:04 LastManProductions wrote:
Whats this gamergate thing?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy

People are using the tag as an excusde for a lot of bullshit.
Calling most of the pople that rally themselves to this debate idiots is really not far fetched. It's a toxic debate about toxicity basically.


You might want to spell "people" correct when calling others idiots... I have also found it to be, in general, a pretty good move to refrain from calling others idiots just because you happen to disagree (and as Robert learned, calling them retards isn't the wisest thing either).
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 25 2014 22:46 GMT
#74
That's really unexpected. I don't expect we'll get much more information on what happened exactly either. We will see how Dreamhack will continue without him I guess.
3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 22:47:21
October 25 2014 22:46 GMT
#75
On October 26 2014 07:42 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 07:16 Noocta wrote:
On October 26 2014 07:04 LastManProductions wrote:
Whats this gamergate thing?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy

People are using the tag as an excusde for a lot of bullshit.
Calling most of the pople that rally themselves to this debate idiots is really not far fetched. It's a toxic debate about toxicity basically.


You might want to spell "people" correct when calling others idiots... I have also found it to be, in general, a pretty good move to refrain from calling others idiots just because you happen to disagree (and as Robert learned, calling them retards isn't the wisest thing either).

That's not the point though. He's calling them idiots because the "debate" is a waste of time, not because he agrees with one side or the other.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 22:54:23
October 25 2014 22:51 GMT
#76
On October 26 2014 07:46 3772 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 07:42 Ghostcom wrote:
On October 26 2014 07:16 Noocta wrote:
On October 26 2014 07:04 LastManProductions wrote:
Whats this gamergate thing?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy

People are using the tag as an excusde for a lot of bullshit.
Calling most of the pople that rally themselves to this debate idiots is really not far fetched. It's a toxic debate about toxicity basically.


You might want to spell "people" correct when calling others idiots... I have also found it to be, in general, a pretty good move to refrain from calling others idiots just because you happen to disagree (and as Robert learned, calling them retards isn't the wisest thing either).

That's not the point though. He's calling them idiots because the "debate" is a waste of time, not because he agrees with one side or the other.


So obviously he disagrees with the people having the debate that it is a debate worth having... And that is still no cause for name-calling.

EDIT: And to stay on-topic: I think we will never know exactly what went down behind the doors. Hopefully the "greedy" people making a power-play as he stated doesn't mean cost-increases.
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
October 25 2014 22:59 GMT
#77
On October 26 2014 07:37 IcookTacos wrote:
Let's see how this effects StarCraft 2 :/

This is what I was thinking too. We'll see if we are going to see any more DH SC2 tournaments in the future.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 25 2014 23:03 GMT
#78

that answers that
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
October 25 2014 23:05 GMT
#79
did people really think that would have an effect on him getting fired?
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
October 25 2014 23:06 GMT
#80
Lol what the hell that was unexpected.
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