EPTRobert Ohlen removed as DreamHack CEO [Updated] - Page 16
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y0su
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On October 28 2014 20:27 y0su wrote: also are any of us actually "mad"? Criticizing someone's reaction to an event is obviously being "mad", don't be silly (; | ||
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Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On October 28 2014 20:38 Scrubwave wrote: So mad that Dreamhack replaced a guy, ugh! Gonna beat up a midget now, that's how mad I am. You leave Snute alone! | ||
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F4ble
Norway73 Posts
I find arguments for both sides and there is only speculation to be done and there is really no point to that. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46426 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/470037-dreamhack-announce-internal-reorganization | ||
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Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
HuK would kick your ass, poor choice. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
On October 28 2014 20:19 OtherWorld wrote: No, the passive agressiveness is precisely what is unprofessional. Either he has an agreement of some sort that prevents him from talking about what happened and then he should be totally silent, or he hasn't (most likely) and then nothing prevents him from actually saying his version of the events. Right now he's just trolling and trying to hurt DH, and it makes him look bad and unprofessional. (and tbh his behavior is more reminescent of someone that has been fired in a legit way and is angry as fuck about it than of someone who has been the victim of a plot) You're possibly missing the line he might be taking in his response where his anger is evident but he does not actually do anything which could materially harm the Dreamhack organization - due either to his continued attachment to the organization as a financially interested (assuming he still owns stock in the company) person, continued sentimental attachment to the people and name he's spent time leading, or (lastly) to avoid becoming the target of a lawsuit due to making actionable statements. It's quite possible that he's mad as hell about it, but doesn't want to express that anger in a way that could negatively impact his own vested interests in the success of the company. As far as hurting Dreamhack - if this followed the Kespa/Korean statement model, nothing would be different from the perspective of the fans. (I'm generalizing, of course - some people might be irrational about things, or view them differently in a rational fashion with different logic.) We're all still going to be watching to see what changes if any come about with Dreamhack, we'll all still be expecting them to deliver at least the quality of content they do now (and bitch and moan if the standards drop - hell, let's be honest, some of us will bitch and moan anyways), and for the moment, interest in Dreamhack has increased. I imagine they will get some more eyeballs for their next event simply because of the drama generated here - people that otherwise might not have been paying attention will tune in to see what impact (if any, and it probably won't have any visible impact to viewers not present in the boardroom and back offices) it might have on future activities by the Dreamhack organization. I will grant you that the statement "any publicity is good publicity" is in fact flawed, but in this case the controversy seems to be generating interest that won't do any lasting harm to the organization assuming they continue forward at least as well as they have been going on now for awhile. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, am not a stockholder of Dreamhack, and am framing this as related to my own limited experience. YMMV, etc, etc. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
I feel so bad for Robert  | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On October 30 2014 01:52 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: http://www.dailydot.com/esports/robert-ohlen-removed-dreamhack-interview/ I feel so bad for Robert Ah he finally explains what happened ! I have to say that (if this version is true ofc) being betrayed by his father that way must be really hard to live. However the article forgets to mention that he didn't buy DH alone, and that Garpenståhl, who the article says tried to 'oust' Ohlen, was indeed fired for obscure reasons too. Tbh the article reads a bit like a PR statement from Ohlen too. But that's probably fair. edit : also TheBloodyDwarf so gosu he manages to post in a closed thread once the thread is closed, I am impressed | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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suddendeathTV
Sweden388 Posts
On October 30 2014 02:18 NovemberstOrm wrote: updated OP Why not just link the Heyoka thread at LiquidDota to SC2 as well? This information deserves a thread of its own. Anything else would be a spit in the face of Robert Ohlén. You're also missing the link to the actual article over at DailyDot. In your quote, only a portion of the text is shown. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On October 30 2014 02:03 OtherWorld wrote: Ah he finally explains what happened ! I have to say that (if this version is true ofc) being betrayed by his father that way must be really hard to live. However the article forgets to mention that he didn't buy DH alone, and that Garpenståhl, who the article says tried to 'oust' Ohlen, was indeed fired for obscure reasons too. Tbh the article reads a bit like a PR statement from Ohlen too. But that's probably fair. edit : also TheBloodyDwarf so gosu he manages to post in a closed thread once the thread is closed, I am impressed I have magic power but don't tell anybody! --- I would like to know more why he gave his shares to his dad. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On October 30 2014 02:18 NovemberstOrm wrote: updated OP You should add link to dailydot article | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On October 30 2014 02:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I have magic power but don't tell anybody! --- I would like to know more why he gave his shares to his dad. The last post on page 13 might interest you then edit : wait no, actually that post doesn't explains that. You have a good point here, I don't see why he couldn't have kept his parts | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
Never trust anybody when it involves money..... | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
As for Ohlens place in esports here on out, unless he does another start up or something I cant imagine anyone trusting him with control given how he reacted to this particular crisis. I mean It seems unlikely that DH will make it through this unscathed, so yah gotta ask, why hire someone that has enough public favour to wound your company if you ever need to get rid of them? Still, just seems like a really stupid move on DH's part to just kick him like that, I mean they knew he could be volatile. why invite this kind of drama? Would he have really made that nightmarish a chairman? Maybe its his father thats responsible for the total ousting, after all, theres no way Robert would get kicked like this without his dads approval. What a fucking bastard. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On October 30 2014 02:42 gumshoe wrote: Cant believe his own father betrayed him 0_0 I imagine Ohlen may never forgiving him for that and seems like the kinda thing that'll just generally smash a family into pieces. Why did he do it I wonder? Do we know anything about Ohlens father?(couldn't find anything online) I assume his dad is accustomed to holding positions of power (past ceo of a different company maybe?). As for Ohlens place in esports here on out, unless he does another start up or something I cant imagine anyone trusting him with control given how he reacted to this particular crisis. I mean It seems unlikely that DH will make it through this unscathed, so yah gotta ask, why hire someone that has ebough public favour to wound your company if you ever need to get rid of them? Still, just seems like a really stupid move on DH's part to just kick him like that, I mean they knew he could be volatile. why invite this kind of drama? Would he have really made that nightmarish a chairman? Maybe its his father thats responsible for the total ousting, afterall, theres no way Robert would get kicked like this without his dads approval. What a fucking bastard. Nothing guarantees that Ohlen's version is 100% accurate, just like for DH's. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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