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Robert Ohlen removed as DreamHack CEO [Updated] - Page 14

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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-27 01:43:35
October 27 2014 01:43 GMT
#261
On October 27 2014 02:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 23:02 Hider wrote:
On October 26 2014 22:57 m4ini wrote:
On October 26 2014 22:55 aTnClouD wrote:
On October 26 2014 22:41 whereismymind wrote:
he is acting like a kid now after being sacked.. probably he was sacked unfair, or not.. you know how ego and arrogance clashes after you have power.. but this scene perfectly explains that adults actuallly never grow up.

To be fair, few people would be in their right mind after being fired by their own company and life project.


Depends. For that to be a decent argument, we'd need to know if he was sacked because DH is a greedy company and did him wrong, or if he got sacked because he fucked up.



Greedy company = Investors wants to maximize their return ????

Sounds like investors assessed that Robert Ohlen wasn't very competent at his job since Dreamhack isn't a charity organization. Him going on public talkshows being really wasted makes it somewhat apparent that his judgements isn't very good. Him making a lot of angry tweets instead of more logical explanations doesn't benefit his cause either. If your mad and feel like you need to tell the public you have been mistreated, why not make a more elaborate explanation.

If he really can't keep his head cool here, then I also find it unlikely that is the right man for the job as a CEO.


I agree with this. We should wait for a more professional elaboration from an involved party and not jump to pass judgment over whether or not firing him was the *right* thing to do... but still, he's clearly handling this unprofessionally. I can't imagine that the whole "fuck everyone" attitude is the best way to portray his position; burning bridges and coming off as a lunatic and all that jazz.


The best response I remember ever is when the coach of my fav football team around 5-7 years ago was fired (after dissapointing results) At that time there had been lots of criticsm and rumors about the board charman. However, after the coach was fired he responded to the press: "If any of you guys in 3-5 months wanna contact me and try to get any criticism out of me, you can just forget it. I am not gonna tell you anything."

While I previously had been critical of me (due to his medicore/bad results), that response really changed my perspective on him. Becasue while acting super professionally he also indicated that there actually was a bit of problems on the board-level, and thus he didn't have to take all of the responsiblity on him self. And a couple of years after, he went on to win the championsship with a medicore team.
MarilynBrown
Profile Joined October 2014
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2014-10-27 07:46:56
October 27 2014 07:46 GMT
#262
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
MidnightZL
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden203 Posts
October 27 2014 08:50 GMT
#263
So sad to see him go ; always liked him, being mature, older and wiser than most in the pretty young gaming community. Hope he continues within the esport-business.
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aslejoh
Profile Joined July 2012
Norway96 Posts
October 27 2014 13:22 GMT
#264
So.. Robert owns over 50% of the company, but he got fired? Can someone please make an article about what the hell is going on soon??

I thought it were some kind of non-profit organization since they would just throw him as CEO! How can they do that if Robert and his father owns the company??
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5596 Posts
October 27 2014 13:24 GMT
#265
On October 27 2014 17:50 MidnightZL wrote:
being mature, older and wiser than most

Huh. I didn't realize the bar was set that low...
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 27 2014 13:35 GMT
#266
On October 27 2014 22:22 aslejoh wrote:
So.. Robert owns over 50% of the company, but he got fired? Can someone please make an article about what the hell is going on soon??

I thought it were some kind of non-profit organization since they would just throw him as CEO! How can they do that if Robert and his father owns the company??


They own the shares, doesn't mean they own the board, which can fire a misbehaving CEO.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
October 27 2014 14:16 GMT
#267
On October 27 2014 22:35 Darkdwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 22:22 aslejoh wrote:
So.. Robert owns over 50% of the company, but he got fired? Can someone please make an article about what the hell is going on soon??

I thought it were some kind of non-profit organization since they would just throw him as CEO! How can they do that if Robert and his father owns the company??


They own the shares, doesn't mean they own the board, which can fire a misbehaving CEO.

Sure, but a 50% majority share holder can fire the board.
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aslejoh
Profile Joined July 2012
Norway96 Posts
October 27 2014 14:35 GMT
#268
Correct, if someone has majority ownership of a company I am pretty sure they will also have the chairman of the board as their representative, and majority of the board will support the one controlling the most stakes in the company..
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-27 14:42:49
October 27 2014 14:36 GMT
#269
it will take time to research and it takes balls to do it. because if you write something dreamhack does not like they can blacklist you and say goodbye to ever get something with dreamhack done. simple example you want to do more with dreamhack and counterstrike but dreamhack does not like you...well you will not get hired by dreamhack. is it worth?

my theory
+ Show Spoiler +
as we all know nothing and just speculating lets fire this one. mlg & alex garfield are pissed at dreamhack and made a inside job to control at least dreamhack because they cant do the same with esl. sounds unrealistic? maybe alex told the government dreamhack has oil. they could believe this. now you think thats stupid? well usa still did not find the weapons of mass destruction that irak has! i mean they said it has, they would not lie to their own or the world or would they? i mean if they lied you should think they would get sued, people that did a crime would get in prison, nothing happend so they did not lie.

Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8645 Posts
October 27 2014 14:41 GMT
#270
On October 27 2014 23:36 tadL wrote:
it will take time to research and it takes balls to do it. because if you write something dreamhack does not like they can blacklist you and say goodbye to ever get something with dreamhack done. simple example you want to do more with dreamhack and counterstrike but dreamhack does not like you...well you will not get hired by dreamhack. is it worth?

as we all know nothing and just speculating lets fire this one. mlg & alex garfield are pissed at dreamhack and made a inside job to control at least dreamhack because they cant do the same with esl. sounds unrealistic? maybe alex told the goverment dreamhack has oil. they could believe this. now you think thats stupid? well usa still did not find the weapons of mass destrustruction that irak has! i mean they said they have, they would not lie to their own people or would they?


I go with this version of the events. Just because.


in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
October 27 2014 14:43 GMT
#271
well i put it into a spoiler, not that i get a ban of alex&mlg people that got installed on team liquid
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 27 2014 14:48 GMT
#272
On October 27 2014 23:43 tadL wrote:
well i put it into a spoiler, not that i get a ban of alex&mlg people that got installed on team liquid

It's an excellent theory though. I suggest that we adopt this one as the official version of the events
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
October 27 2014 14:53 GMT
#273
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/dreamhack-omorganiserar-1073807
DreamHack announce internal re-organization
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Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
October 27 2014 14:56 GMT
#274
I can't believe they fired mr dreamhack himself, that's a huge mistake imo. They'll continue on as the biggest LAN but they lost what made it special.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
October 27 2014 15:59 GMT
#275
If he's the same guy that ran DH when I was still watching ~2 years ago, then I'm not surprised as I always found him weird.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 27 2014 16:01 GMT
#276
On October 27 2014 23:53 digmouse wrote:
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/dreamhack-omorganiserar-1073807
DreamHack announce internal re-organization

English version if you scroll down.
Nothing crazy revealed but gives confidence going forward.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
October 27 2014 16:08 GMT
#277
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8645 Posts
October 27 2014 16:15 GMT
#278
On October 28 2014 01:01 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 23:53 digmouse wrote:
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/dreamhack-omorganiserar-1073807
DreamHack announce internal re-organization

English version if you scroll down.
Nothing crazy revealed but gives confidence going forward.


Kinda. Still makes you wonder if Robert is just kinda "weird" and/or angry getting canned or if there's more to it.
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-27 16:16:37
October 27 2014 16:15 GMT
#279
On October 28 2014 01:08 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 23:53 digmouse wrote:
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/dreamhack-omorganiserar-1073807
DreamHack announce internal re-organization


I imagine this is sarcasm and that he's not in agreement with something..?

Could someone translate this and (nvm, english version is right there..) add it to the OP?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 27 2014 16:19 GMT
#280
On October 28 2014 01:08 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 23:53 digmouse wrote:
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/dreamhack-omorganiserar-1073807
DreamHack announce internal re-organization

https://twitter.com/zer0n0ught/status/526766429614661632
I imagine this is sarcasm and that he's not in agreement with something..?

Apparently he has something to say but won't or wants people to believe there is something more to it.. Either way I'm not a fan of what he is doing.
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