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nimdil
Poland3753 Posts
On October 22 2014 23:05 spoonmaster wrote: I'm pretty sure Bomber needs to get interjected there somewhere. Based on Bomber's Law, Bomber it's either: Bomber > MMA/Mvp/MKP/Polt or Bomber < MMA/Mvp/MKP/Polt recently he is on a rise so I imagine he will crash horribly during BlizzCon. | ||
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Siskoz
Russian Federation48 Posts
Bomber : MMA 2:3 Classic : MMA 1:3 MMA : ? 1:4 | ||
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
United States1528 Posts
On October 23 2014 01:52 Siskoz wrote: Stardust : MMA 1: 3 Bomber : MMA 2:3 Classic : MMA 1:3 MMA : Innovation 3:4 I believe. | ||
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lantz
United States762 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On October 22 2014 13:02 Bagration wrote: He was a fan favorite against Mvp during the summer (GSTL, MLG, GSL October), because while Mvp was ridiculously dominant, Mvp was seen as a "boring champion" (crazy, right?) and MMA was the exciting underdog. By late 2011, people really started to respect Mvp's dominance, plus in the Blizz Cup series only G1 was a longer game - games 2 and 3 were short timing attacks by MMA, and people were upset that such a potentially great Bo5 ended so quickly This is true. MMA was the budding underdog darling to save us from boredom (his games against DRG were always fantastic when they were both up-and-coming, capped off with the Blizz Cup game 7 that year). I don't think MVP got a ton of nostalgia support until the season he beat Squirtle with pure audacity. Artosis always liked MVP though, since he a) was a macro player b) went mech a lot. On October 22 2014 22:33 TheCzarOfAll wrote: I think it's less of him being an asshole and more him trying to defend his (now) wife, no matter how ridiculous she and her policies are. She really must've distorted his viewpoints. I think if he had a more solid manager and Jessica would've stayed away from it, everything would've been fine. This is mostly coming from the idea that Boxer is a well-respected player and coach and wouldn't deliberately sabotage his own team without the influence of an outside force. I dunno, Boxer had a pretty rocky return to SKT-1 as well. In any case, I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened with Slayers. What exactly was the 'career-ending' dirt that they never revealed about Alicia for example? From what we did learn though MMA definitely wasn't innocent with the Slayers drama, nor was he completely to blame. For example, shafting his personal coach was a pretty dick move if true. In any case, what a lot of people are forgetting was there was an actual conman pretending to represent Intel involved and actually stealing money from the team (IPL admins even caught him trying to siphon off prize money at IPL 3). Then there's also the entire freeze-out situation with the asshole Startale coach which didn't help either (not the first or last shady incident with the ST coach btw). So a lot of things came together to destroy Slayers, but if you prefer to say external pressure turned them against each other. Maybe that's the best way to put it than trying to paint one side as villain and another as victim. | ||
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TheLittleOtter
Norway11 Posts
MMA fighting!! | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
GSTL Finals Game 9 - Mvp vs. MMA Blizzard Cup Game 7 - DRG vs. MMA | ||
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LynxRage
Switzerland5 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
Edit: I did wonder if we'd see MMA return to form on Acer, but it took so long that it convinced me that Coach Ryu really knew how to get the most out of MMA. But MMa's starting to round into form again, so we'll see if he's rediscovered the touch! | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On October 26 2014 13:40 Wuster wrote: MMA's stopped being a championship contender the day coach Ryu left Slayers, the conflicts with Boxer certainly didn't help though and may have started the decline. But like I posted above, its near impossible to tell exactly how things went down between all the different sides. Edit: I did wonder if we'd see MMA return to form on Acer, but it took so long that it convinced me that Coach Ryu really knew how to get the most out of MMA. But MMa's starting to round into form again, so we'll see if he's rediscovered the touch! Having a coach helped, but so did having some of the world's best practice partners at Slayers - when the internal conflict started, I'm sure MMA's practice with the players was reduced, if not cut off. MMA hasn't returned to the top-tier level that he was back in 2011 or early 2012, but he's become a champion again under Acer. That alone shows that he's got grit, and isn't dependent on a coach to win. | ||
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