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On September 11 2014 06:36 desRow wrote:My man Conti Why remove the graph of the total viewership for personal streams and for tournaments I know it's in a downward trend but it's not a reason to hide it and take it away from us  Also why remove the arrows for the streamers like I want to know without looking at july how many ranks I fell off because of all of my traveling Thank you so much for your work and being patient with my demands from time to time.
Welcome this month's very short edition of the top 50 streamers list. Due to an error (which was, ultimately, the result of my own stupidity), I lost about half a month's worth of data for the month of August. Which meant that I was unable to create a proper ranking for the month, since it just would not be fair to rank streamers based on incomplete information. Luckily, I'm not the only one gathering stream viewer data. Thanks to the awesome efforts of Stijn, who helped me out by providing player stream data from his own site, I can at least present the usual player rankings. Thank you Stijn! This wouldn't have been possible without you. Everyone should shower him with gold, or, alternatively, visit his awesome site, http://fuzic.nl/, which is the best site to get live stream viewership information on Starcraft 2 streams. Seriously, go visit that site. Unfortunately, due to the aforementioned stupidity of me, there will be no graphs for overall viewership and event viewership this month. However, you can visit http://fuzic.nl/ for up to date viewer data about individual events.
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Thank you for doing this,
would be cool if we could get Knowme featured 
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- edit re: desRow - what Boucot said! -
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On September 11 2014 04:54 Nirel wrote:
Who is winter? I keep seeing his stream high in the ranking but I have no idea who it is.
A guy with viewerbot. Why?
- Everytime sameone write "viewerbot" in the streamchat he instantly ban him
- Progamers who streams never reach 3k viewers. INnoVation, Jaedong, Grubby, Stephano, Snute, no one of these. But he can, everytime (EVERYTIME) he streams. Mh?
- Everytime he does "games with viewers" in the chat channel where they have to meet there are... 3? 4 guys? with 3k viewers... ROFL
Everybody knows it
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On September 11 2014 07:13 SuperHofmann wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 04:54 Nirel wrote:
Who is winter? I keep seeing his stream high in the ranking but I have no idea who it is. A guy with viewerbot. Why? - Everytime sameone write "viewerbot" in the streamchat he instantly ban him - Progamers who streams never reach 3k viewers. INnoVation, Jaedong, Grubby, Stephano, Snute, no one of these. But he can, everytime (EVERYTIME) he streams. Mh? - Everytime he does "games with viewers" in the chat channel where they have to meet there are... 3? 4 guys? with 3k viewers... ROFL Everybody knows it
Thnaks for the explanation! I watched it one time and I couldn't stand it.
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On September 11 2014 07:13 SuperHofmann wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 04:54 Nirel wrote:
Who is winter? I keep seeing his stream high in the ranking but I have no idea who it is. [...] - Progamers who streams never reach 3k viewers. INnoVation, Jaedong, Grubby, Stephano, Snute, no one of these. But he can, everytime (EVERYTIME) he streams. Mh? [...] Everybody knows it
Wrong, as far I know Grubby and Stephano hit 3k very often this year. Stephano at good days 4,5k. Grubby could have always 3k but he often choices bad times to stream (very often time clash with WCS EU/NA etc).
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On September 11 2014 07:13 SuperHofmann wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 04:54 Nirel wrote:
Who is winter? I keep seeing his stream high in the ranking but I have no idea who it is. A guy with viewerbot. Why? - Everytime sameone write "viewerbot" in the streamchat he instantly ban him - Progamers who streams never reach 3k viewers. INnoVation, Jaedong, Grubby, Stephano, Snute, no one of these. But he can, everytime (EVERYTIME) he streams. Mh? - Everytime he does "games with viewers" in the chat channel where they have to meet there are... 3? 4 guys? with 3k viewers... ROFL Everybody knows it
- He also gets 3000 viewers at 3am on a workday when the next highest is Catz with 400.
- And the chat is waaaaaaaaaay too "calm" for having 3000 viewers, I see channels with 300 viewers that are more active than his.
- Several times through out the night his viewers will drop to 500-700 and then shoot back up to magical 3000 in about 10 minutes.
Its so incredibly suspicious.
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On September 11 2014 04:54 Nirel wrote:
Who is winter? I keep seeing his stream high in the ranking but I have no idea who it is.
Lol for some reason Winter keeps getting this reaction. Does he viewbot?
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So sad to see the viewers going down and down on the SC2 section  I hope it gets better tho!
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On September 11 2014 09:41 SilSol wrote:So sad to see the viewers going down and down on the SC2 section I hope it gets better tho!
Things don't usually spontaneously get better.
Thanks for the list, glad to still see Stephano on the top!
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The part that doens't make sense for Winterstarcraft is that he consistently can get around 3k viewers, but only has 1k Twitter followers. How do you explain that?
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iNcontroL movin' on up! 
Winter's wrecking everyone haha
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On September 11 2014 11:07 Hider wrote:
The part that doens't make sense for Winterstarcraft is that he consistently can get around 3k viewers, but only has 1k Twitter followers. How do you explain that?
The tide goes in, tide goes out.
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On September 11 2014 11:07 Hider wrote:
The part that doens't make sense for Winterstarcraft is that he consistently can get around 3k viewers, but only has 1k Twitter followers. How do you explain that?
He doesn't push it?
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On September 11 2014 08:07 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 07:13 SuperHofmann wrote:On September 11 2014 04:54 Nirel wrote:
Who is winter? I keep seeing his stream high in the ranking but I have no idea who it is. [...] - Progamers who streams never reach 3k viewers. INnoVation, Jaedong, Grubby, Stephano, Snute, no one of these. But he can, everytime (EVERYTIME) he streams. Mh? [...] Everybody knows it Wrong, as far I know Grubby and Stephano hit 3k very often this year. Stephano at good days 4,5k. Grubby could have always 3k but he often choices bad times to stream (very often time clash with WCS EU/NA etc).
Even iNcontroL has hit 3K a few times recently, although he's usually more around 1.5-2K.
Also, some of the top tier Koreans barely get any viewers because they either stream on a shitty non-Twitch site, or their stream has no commentary/ barely any music. It seems that a lot more people prefer the more entertaining mid-level pros/ foreigners, that they can better relate to and interact with.
I don't know too much about Winter (I've watched his stream a few times), but he's very entertaining and interactive with his audience. He's also a good Random player and he provides commentary and analysis.
EDIT: And he also looks and sounds like Bo Burnham. lol.
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out of nowhere 318 hours streamed for the month
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On September 11 2014 11:42 2primenumbers wrote:
out of nowhere 318 hours streamed for the month
Who, ProTech? I find it hard to believe he streamed almost 3x as long as Winter O_O But I guess those numbers can't be faked, can they?
What do you mean out of nowhere, though? He's notorious for streaming a lot. He does every month afaik.
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On September 11 2014 11:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 08:07 Dingodile wrote:On September 11 2014 07:13 SuperHofmann wrote:On September 11 2014 04:54 Nirel wrote:
Who is winter? I keep seeing his stream high in the ranking but I have no idea who it is. [...] - Progamers who streams never reach 3k viewers. INnoVation, Jaedong, Grubby, Stephano, Snute, no one of these. But he can, everytime (EVERYTIME) he streams. Mh? [...] Everybody knows it Wrong, as far I know Grubby and Stephano hit 3k very often this year. Stephano at good days 4,5k. Grubby could have always 3k but he often choices bad times to stream (very often time clash with WCS EU/NA etc). Even iNcontroL has hit 3K a few times recently, although he's usually more around 1.5-2K. Also, some of the top tier Koreans barely get any viewers because they either stream on a shitty non-Twitch site, or their stream has no commentary/ barely any music. It seems that a lot more people prefer the more entertaining mid-level pros/ foreigners, that they can better relate to and interact with. I don't know too much about Winter (I've watched his stream a few times), but he's very entertaining and interactive with his audience. He's also a good Random player and he provides commentary and analysis. EDIT: And he also looks and sounds like Bo Burnham. lol.
This is always brought up as a defense of his very suspicious view pattern. It doesnt do a single thing to address how odd his numbers are. He could get his views for streaming naked in makeup while speaking for pig latin for all I care. But when he gets those views that are way higher than even a lot of non starcraft streamers at a time where people are either working or asleep (12 -6am EST), a dead chat (chats 1/10 as large are twice as active), and weird fluctuations of numbers (500 to 3000 in 10 minutes) then Im going to be suspicious.
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On September 11 2014 11:55 Apollo_Shards wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 11:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 11 2014 08:07 Dingodile wrote:On September 11 2014 07:13 SuperHofmann wrote:On September 11 2014 04:54 Nirel wrote:
Who is winter? I keep seeing his stream high in the ranking but I have no idea who it is. [...] - Progamers who streams never reach 3k viewers. INnoVation, Jaedong, Grubby, Stephano, Snute, no one of these. But he can, everytime (EVERYTIME) he streams. Mh? [...] Everybody knows it Wrong, as far I know Grubby and Stephano hit 3k very often this year. Stephano at good days 4,5k. Grubby could have always 3k but he often choices bad times to stream (very often time clash with WCS EU/NA etc). Even iNcontroL has hit 3K a few times recently, although he's usually more around 1.5-2K. Also, some of the top tier Koreans barely get any viewers because they either stream on a shitty non-Twitch site, or their stream has no commentary/ barely any music. It seems that a lot more people prefer the more entertaining mid-level pros/ foreigners, that they can better relate to and interact with. I don't know too much about Winter (I've watched his stream a few times), but he's very entertaining and interactive with his audience. He's also a good Random player and he provides commentary and analysis. EDIT: And he also looks and sounds like Bo Burnham. lol. This is always brought up as a defense of his very suspicious view pattern. It doesnt do a single thing to address how odd his numbers are. He could get his views for streaming naked in makeup while speaking for pig latin for all I care. But when he gets those views that are way higher than even a lot of non starcraft streamers at a time where people are either working or asleep, a dead chat, and weird fluctuations of numbers then Im going to be suspicious.
Fair enough. I don't pay much attention to viewbotting or suspicious numbers. I just watch the streams ^^
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