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WCS AM will continue to include LatAm, Oceania/SEA, CN, and TW/HK/Macau, you can all stop freaking out about it.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
September 05 2014 01:03 GMT
#21
On September 05 2014 10:02 Yhamm wrote:
I don't think it will change much for WCS Europe, but most Koreans in WCS AM are pretty fucked I guess

I like that everyone will have to qualify, will be fun to follow, and huge qualifiers too

yea I guess that GEM house holds most of the koreans in WCS EU anyways lol, are they actual residents though?
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
September 05 2014 01:03 GMT
#22
On September 05 2014 10:01 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 09:59 Tanzklaue wrote:
just as foreigners finally started to catch up to top koreans \:D/

i will probably be alone, but this is bad for the skill levels of WCS europe and america. welp, at least foreigners can feel important again when they win meaningless koreanless tournaments.

Nah, I predict that quite a few of the koreans will move over, probably most of them will try to get onto foreign teams. TRUE is only the beginning. Of course this is bad for proleague, so KeSPA teams will have to try to recruit more rookies or GSL needs to offer more points/money.


This assumes that lots of teams are operating in full compliance with various immigration laws. I'm not going to go out on that limb, especially with the historical context of "What contract?" from some teams.
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 01:04:57
September 05 2014 01:04 GMT
#23
I'm excited!
And of course guys, don't worry too much in case you are concerned about certain things. There will be more info in the near future.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
September 05 2014 01:05 GMT
#24
I'm alright with the semi-region lock but I do wonder how the Korean scene will respond. The GEM guys in Germany, Polt and viOLet, the mYi guys and other players should be fine but I do worry for the other Koreans.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
September 05 2014 01:05 GMT
#25
On September 05 2014 10:01 Plansix wrote:
Also, prepare for walks of text explaining why this the death of SC2 and the korean scene.
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:01 felisconcolori wrote:
This is not full region lock. Note it's a residency requirement. I see a sharp uptick in visa applications for respective countries.

Those cost a lot to get to be a full resident. You also need to live in the country, so you like need to move. That also cost money. No one will do that.


It will depend on what an "appropriate visa" is. I think, from a legal standpoint, a legal resident visa may also include such variants as H-1B, Athlete Visa, and whatever similar "you can live and work here but you might not be a legal resident for certain purposes" visas exist.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 05 2014 01:05 GMT
#26
So a lot more koreans, especially the ones in WCS AM, are gonna be forced to play in Korea now basically. Either we see more korean tournaments (unlikely), or we see a whole bunch of less Korean players (bad for the scene). I'm not a fan of this so far.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 05 2014 01:06 GMT
#27
On September 05 2014 10:01 Plansix wrote:
Also, prepare for walks of text explaining why this the death of SC2 and the korean scene.

That would be accurate no matter what the announcement was. If Blizzard was offering a portal into an alternate reality where residency was required for those who wanted a region lock and kept their 2014 policy, and they added season finals back, but made it balanced, and gave a few points to Proleague and a couple fewer points to ATC teams to make it more competitive, and they expanded GSL and gave it more money/points, and Blizzcon was expanded to 24 people, and they sponsored their own SC2 team, and sponsored proleague, and created/funded a minor monthly tournament in each region that only allowed people that didn't make WCS challenger/premier to compete, people would still complain.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 05 2014 01:06 GMT
#28
On September 05 2014 10:03 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:01 The_Templar wrote:
On September 05 2014 09:59 Tanzklaue wrote:
just as foreigners finally started to catch up to top koreans \:D/

i will probably be alone, but this is bad for the skill levels of WCS europe and america. welp, at least foreigners can feel important again when they win meaningless koreanless tournaments.

Nah, I predict that quite a few of the koreans will move over, probably most of them will try to get onto foreign teams. TRUE is only the beginning. Of course this is bad for proleague, so KeSPA teams will have to try to recruit more rookies or GSL needs to offer more points/money.


This assumes that lots of teams are operating in full compliance with various immigration laws. I'm not going to go out on that limb, especially with the historical context of "What contract?" from some teams.

I said most of them will try to get on foreign teams :\
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 01:07:10
September 05 2014 01:07 GMT
#29
Release the Gracken!!!

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
September 05 2014 01:07 GMT
#30
wow....no more easy money for Koreans in WCS AM and WCS EU
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
September 05 2014 01:08 GMT
#31
On September 05 2014 10:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:03 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 05 2014 10:01 The_Templar wrote:
On September 05 2014 09:59 Tanzklaue wrote:
just as foreigners finally started to catch up to top koreans \:D/

i will probably be alone, but this is bad for the skill levels of WCS europe and america. welp, at least foreigners can feel important again when they win meaningless koreanless tournaments.

Nah, I predict that quite a few of the koreans will move over, probably most of them will try to get onto foreign teams. TRUE is only the beginning. Of course this is bad for proleague, so KeSPA teams will have to try to recruit more rookies or GSL needs to offer more points/money.


This assumes that lots of teams are operating in full compliance with various immigration laws. I'm not going to go out on that limb, especially with the historical context of "What contract?" from some teams.

I said most of them will try to get on foreign teams :\


To be honest, I would expect KeSPA to be better positioned as an aid through immigration law in other countries. They actually have lawyers involved.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 05 2014 01:08 GMT
#32
Incoming huge wave of Korean player retirements unless GSL expands
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 05 2014 01:08 GMT
#33
RIP Chinese sc2, not that it wasn't dead already
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 05 2014 01:08 GMT
#34
On September 05 2014 10:07 ninjamyst wrote:
wow....no more easy money for Koreans in WCS AM and WCS EU


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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
September 05 2014 01:09 GMT
#35
On September 05 2014 10:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:01 Plansix wrote:
Also, prepare for walks of text explaining why this the death of SC2 and the korean scene.

That would be accurate no matter what the announcement was. If Blizzard was offering a portal into an alternate reality where residency was required for those who wanted a region lock and kept their 2014 policy, and they added season finals back, but made it balanced, and gave a few points to Proleague and a couple fewer points to ATC teams to make it more competitive, and they expanded GSL and gave it more money/points, and Blizzcon was expanded to 24 people, and they sponsored their own SC2 team, and sponsored proleague, and created/funded a minor monthly tournament in each region that only allowed people that didn't make WCS challenger/premier to compete, people would still complain.

hell yea I'd complain, that sounds like a lot of work for me! lol jk
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 05 2014 01:09 GMT
#36
RIP China and Sea.
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
September 05 2014 01:09 GMT
#37
On September 05 2014 10:09 stuchiu wrote:
RIP China and Sea.


Yeah, what's going to happen here?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2014 01:09 GMT
#38
On September 05 2014 10:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:01 Plansix wrote:
Also, prepare for walks of text explaining why this the death of SC2 and the korean scene.

That would be accurate no matter what the announcement was. If Blizzard was offering a portal into an alternate reality where residency was required for those who wanted a region lock and kept their 2014 policy, and they added season finals back, but made it balanced, and gave a few points to Proleague and a couple fewer points to ATC teams to make it more competitive, and they expanded GSL and gave it more money/points, and Blizzcon was expanded to 24 people, and they sponsored their own SC2 team, and sponsored proleague, and created/funded a minor monthly tournament in each region that only allowed people that didn't make WCS challenger/premier to compete, people would still complain.

This is the most factual post in all of the threads combined about SC2.

So let the complaining commence.
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
September 05 2014 01:10 GMT
#39
Its not a real full region lock. Its just like the Ladder Wildcard Quallis have been slayed. In WCS EU all other qualis wanted a Visa for a EU Region country ( not a EU country, Ukraine and Russia for example are fine 2 ).
I dont know what will happen to the Chinese and Ocean Qualis for WCS AM, but i think they will stick with em.

To optain i Visa is not as hard as you think. You can get a athlet visa for the USA as a SC II player and in some europeen countrys it is not hard to optain a visa.

What cannot happen anymore: The pigbaby story. Live in korea, win ladder wildcard and just join usa for 2 weeks of WCS AM Finals. You need at least a visa for the time from the quali till the end of the season.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
September 05 2014 01:10 GMT
#40
On September 05 2014 10:09 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:09 stuchiu wrote:
RIP China and Sea.


Yeah, what's going to happen here?




Following Kim Phan is handy.
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