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IEM Toronto 2014 - Power Rank!

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IEM Toronto 2014 - Power Rank!

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
August 28th, 2014 08:07 GMT
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    The 7.27% Road
  • PR
    Power Rank
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    IEM Toronto on Liquipedia
.01
The 7.27% Road

(T)Flash was supposed to be the one. The herald that would mark the new age of Kespa. Its God come again to a new game to the sound of trumpets blaring, women fainting and hopes getting crushed as he mowed down the newcomers. And for a very small period of time during the hellbat era he was that monster. He was that player that was taking games and series off of the other top players in the world and he was that player that people thought could (and did at MLG) challenge for a Championship. But it never materialized into anything concrete. He was knocked out in the group of death in the first Code S season.

And since then it has been a sliding slope of disappointment. He did alright in his individual league performances in 2013 reaching the ro16 twice more, but both times he was either out thought or out played by his peers. In 2014 it got worse. While still a strong contender in PL, Flash just could not cut it in live bo3 competition. He was weak against early attacks, his series planning was mule-headed and often times one-dimensional. In GSL season 1, BravO easily cracked his defense to take the series off of him. YongHwa almost casually swept away Flash’s scv pulls. The season after that Flash went cc first against both Shine and Hydra and got busted by both.

Even beyond the GSL, Flash was never able to put together the results that the fans expected of him. In Dreamhack he was easily beaten by both YugiOh and MMA and never made it out of the group stages. At IEM he was eliminated by Curious. What was notable about that series was that Curious won it through his sheer grit and Flash’s mistakes: an inability to cope with counter-attacks, bad army movement and bull-headed aggression. In a way it was a culmination of Flash’s bad habits put into one game: one-dimensional thinking, over aggression, an inability to defend and a lack of composure in end game scenarios.

And yet despite all of that. Despite of the holes in his play, Flash was still a great player. His macro was impeccable. In straight up fights he often bulldozed over the competition so often that over aggression rarely became a problem. His timings were some of the best among the terran race and he--though rare--had a good sense of when to pull out proxy cheeses.

And those very strengths have been amplified in the past two months. His weaknesses passing into irrelevance. TvT has reverted to mass one-base aggression, a style that plays to Flash’s strengths. Should it get past that stage, Flash has already proven his mid and late game TvT to be excellent as well. In TvP, SCV pulls have become stronger than ever with the death of HT-Chargelot openings and Flash has swept every Protoss with the timing bar Zest. In TvZ, Flash has finally found a style that best suits him. With the new Thor buff to auto-attack mutas, Taeja’s old ThorHellBatMan has found new life in the hands of Flash. The style was predicated on passive aggressively sieging the creep while constantly poking at the zerg and baiting out bad engagements. The constant hellbat threat forces the zerg to make more banelings, lowering the muta count indirectly. Coupled with the thor buff, the muta threat becomes that much easier to deal with. He's also begun to rethink his predictable early game: Flash seems to have stopped his tendency for excessive risks in his TvP and TvZ games and has been opening safer than he has in the past. If there are any weaknesses in his current style of SC2, I haven’t found them.

All told this has led to his incredible record in the last two months. 50-11 in maps, 26-3 in series. Only dropping matches to Maru, Action and Zest. Flash is on a hot streak and already the fans are buying tickets on the hype train. No second coming has been awaited this long since Jesus. With almost no weakness beyond being out played, the stage looks set for Flash to not just take IEM Toronto, but to make a last second run for Blizzcon.

The chances are exactly 7.27% (Stats calculated by Die4eva http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=player&player_id=55). Flash is at 750 WCS points. He needs about 2250 WCS points to ensure his spot at Blizzcon. With his participation in IEM, GSL and KeSPA Cup, the path is clear. It will be long, it will be hard, but Flash knows what he has to do. He has to place top 4 in all three events to barely make the cut. Should he win GSL, his chances go up to 64.08%.

Yet despite the difficulty, despite the odds, this run was done before with even worse odds, even less hype, even less fanfare. Last year before GSL Season 3 ro16, Dear had exactly 250 WCS points. Die4eva calculated his chances of making it to Blizzcon to be at 2.328%. He could only attend the GSL and if he did well, he could go to the Season 3 Finals. With a third the points of Flash, a third the percentage and with only two tournaments left, it was do or die. And Dear won. Against all expectations, he walked the royal road twice and took his spot at Blizzcon.

And now it is Flash’s turn. And it all starts here at IEM. Flash has proven himself time and time again in the online qualifiers and Proleague. He stomped through his Code A matches. Since July 1st, he has a 81.97% win rate. The luck of the draw even favors him as he’s avoided all the players that are historically favored against him. He’s avoided Life, Zest, Taeja, sOs. Maru has cancelled, and while herO isn’t much better for Flash, at least herO hasn’t dropped Flash out of GSL, Global Championships and PL Playoffs. The stage is set for the second coming. This week he challenges Canada. In the month after that he fights in the KeSPA Cup. By October, a GSL Champion will be crowned. And the first step will start here. At IEM Toronto.

PR
An Explanation

This wasn't supposed to happen. We were supposed to do a normal preview with groups and open bracket predictions. But then, we got this line up. It's no exaggeration to say that this might just be the most talented lot of players an IEM event has ever seen, and many fan favorites were able to qualify ahead of their less famed counterparts.

The double IEM champion herO is back. The IEM World Champion sOs is here. Captain America has crossed the border with his sidekick viOLet. The Old World Koreans StarDust, MC, YoDa and First have made the voyage. The #1 ranked WCS player, HyuN; the King of Summer, Taeja; the #1 ranked GSL player, Zest--all look to add to their tally. The three currently most accomplished foreigners attempt to break the Korean monopoly.

We might even see Leessang rok (Flash vs Jaedong, for the unfamiliar).

The last time we did a power rank was DH Summer, just as Taeja's reign was beginning. Now, it's close to the fall, and the final seasons of regional WCS events are in full swing. Some of these players have all but booked a ticket to Blizzcon, some are hanging by a thread, and some are leaving it late to qualify. This tournament will be an acid test for those in the latter two categories: will we find them in the running for the year end showpiece?

What is the Power Rank?

"Who would you bet on in a best of 101 with your mortgage and 401k on the line?" Yeah we thought that might be a good thought experiment. "Who has looked the most impressive in the past X months," also crossed our minds. There are many different factors that enter our discussions (and yes, we do thoroughly discuss this) when we try to answer the question: "Who's better?" and we couldn't list down all of them if we tried. If it were up to lichter though, he'd probably just vote for who he finds more entertaining. However, thanks to our spreadsheet heavy, completely democratic, and reasonably systematic process that involves a lot of name calling and secret google doc editing, we're pretty confident someone will agree with us on this. Hopefully.

A few notes on the rankings:

  • The Power Rank only takes players competing at IEM Toronto 2014 into account.
  • The PR is not a ranking of everyone's chances to win this tournament. There's a lot of bracket luck involved, as well as a considerable advantage given to players who start with seeds, and doing a final ranking prediction would be pretty damn complicated. The Power Rank is just our all-around answer to the question "who's better?"
  • Power Rank does not suggest that a higher ranked player is better than a lower ranked player in a head to head. Rankings are based on the overall appraisal of a player.
  • It is possible that some players may be absent or cancel their attendance between the release of this article and the start of the tournament.
  • The power rank is a compromise between the opinions of several writers, ensuring that not even the writers are happy with the end result.
  • TeamLiquid is not responsible for rage or rage related injuries suffered as a result of reading the Power Rank.

Alright, let's get it on!

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The Locals

       These players are mostly comprised of locals and qualifying foreigners who've done enough to reach the main tournament, but have done little to show they have what it takes to make it far. They'll have the support of the crowd and the comforts of home, but it will be a tall order for any of these competitors (MaSa excluded) to make the group stages.




#28: Jer ca

If you're asking to yourself, "who the hell is Jer?" then you aren't alone. Unless you frequent the TL strategy forum, there's no way you're familiar with this guy. As one of its terran staff, he has contributed a lot to the development of bronzies around the world. Unfortunately for him, that won't mean much in a tournament setting. As a masters terran who binged on Diablo last week until he was informed that he was set to replace Believe, he's lucky we're even giving him a number and a paragraph. We're probably not going to see any of his games, but if he beats Snute in the open bracket, we'll probably have to ban him.

#27: (P)Bones ca

Despite only being 1 rank higher than Jer, Bones is probably around 2x as good. The grandmaster protoss qualified for Red Bull Detroit by beating CatZ 2-0 to reach 3rd/4th place in Red Bull's Satellite Tournament, and he proceeded to reach the Ro32 to equal the likes of Revival, Jaedong, Oz, Bunny and HuK. That means little since the tournament was partially a single elimination bracket that relied on a lot of luck, but at the very least it means he can make it as far as any local hero. Unfortunately, he has never even reached WCS AM Challenger League and this is only his 3rd premier or major tournament. As the least seasoned, least accomplished pro, that means he belongs in last place.

#26: (P)desRow ca

The PandaToss lucked out when Maru canceled his open bracket participation due to GSL scheduling issues. PvT has not been kind to desRow recently as he lost a series 0-2 to NA GM Schnitzel at Redbull Detroit. With sub-50% winrates in all his matchups, desRow has a mountain to climb if he wants to reach the groups. He did place second in Copa America by beating HuK and CatZ before falling to MajOr, but he hasn't quite shown that he's competitive against even middle tier Koreans. The French Canadian protoss faces CJherO in his very first match, and that might be all we see from him at this IEM.

#25: (Z)hendralisk ca

Pros need to take tips from Henry when it comes to public relations. Despite his meager results and only two WCS AM Premier League appearances so far, it's difficult to find someone who doesn't like him. A lot of his positive press has come from his participation in LR threads, and his friendly banter with fans and updates about his games give us insight into the man behind the mouse. He's not all talk, either, as he defeated ViBE and Scarlett for his two runs in Premier. If we were ranking players in terms of how much we like them, hendralisk would be near the top. Unfortunately he'll probably spend more time posting in the LR thread than competing.

#24: (P)puCK us

puCK is probably the safe pick for best player in the United States, but he still ends up outside of the top twenty on our IEM power rank. Heading into the summer, puCK looked like one of the top protoss players in the region and a player with the potential to be the first American to make top eight in WCS this year. However, this summer hasn't exactly gone as planned. He was brutally ganged up on in Red Bull North America, had a poor showing in pools at MLG Anaheim, and has now fallen out of WCS in the round of 32 in last place. puCK's star has certainly fallen quite a bit over the past several months, and a tournament this stacked doesn't seem like a great place for a rebound. He has upset potential, particularly against some of the strong Zerg players here, but puCK likely won't be a real contender at this IEM.

#23: (Z)Kane ca

Of all non-Scarlett American players, Kane is probably one of the most underestimated. He lurks just out of sight, barely unable to achieve great runs in various tournaments. Whether it's beating Life and HerO at Destiny I, taking a game off of StarDust a few days ago at Detroit, or having close series vs both Journey and CranK at Red Bull Global, Kane certainly has a heavy dose of potential. Yet, as he proved in a largely iffy qualifier run, he's still very much a work in progress. Seeing him get through the dual tournament would be an amazing showcase of his skills, yet it'd also come as a massive surprise to many.

#22: (P)HuK ca

One time potential number one foreigner and long time Canadian runner up to Scarlett, HuK lands at number twenty-two on our power rank for a number of reasons. The bad news is that HuK hasn't been close to his 2011 brilliance for years and his run at least weekend's Red Bull Detroit lasted only one round before he got knocked out by San. The good news is that HuK has been playing pretty well recently in online tournaments as well as WCS. He just earned his way into the Ro16 of WCS America once again and also made the finals of the fairly stacked Destiny I tournament where he beat viOLet, MC, MajOr and Kane before losing to INnoVation in the finals. HuK still lands around the "good foreigner that probably has no shot at winning the tournament" level, but at least he will have the Canadian crowd behind him, right?

#21: (T)MaSa ca

MaSa is our resident national hero, yet he doesn't feel much like one at all. There were zero doubts about the strength of his qualification--he beat Scarlett and Kane, the two consensus best Canadians--yet he still doesn't -feel- better than either of them. After becoming one of NA's consistent Premier League players in Seasons 1 and 2, he fell to slam in 3 straight games in Challenger to fall out completely. He bounced back with qualification for IEM Toronto and some nice results online, but MaSa comes into this tournament as one of the biggest question marks, and any success in his group would be enough to push him into the big leagues.

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The Hopefuls

These are the players out to make a mess of our prediction. For one reason or another, they are only considered outside shots for the final stages of the tournament. Despite a history of mediocrity, a slump in performances, or a weakness in weekenders, many of these players are talented enough to win other events. Unfortunately, this one's a lot tougher than your normal IEM.




#20: (P)Oz kr

Oz is one of those weird cases where it feels like he should be higher up these lists but just isn’t. Once the god of PvP, Oz fell off for a long time in 2013 before coming back into form with a second place finish in WCS AM Season 1 this year. However since then he has continued to swerve in and out of irrelevance. Every time he plays it seems like he should be able to beat the players he’s put up against but somehow keeps coming up short. With a 0-2 to StarDust at Redbull Detroit, a 0-2 to HerO at MLG Anaheim, and a loss to Jaedong twice in WCS AM, Oz seems to be crumbling to inconsistency once more. Luckily for him he has one of the easier brackets in the tournament. If he comes ready to play there’s definitely a chance of him getting out of the bracket stage, but he'll have to do more than that to convince us he can still compete with the best.

#19: (Z)Revival kr

What do we make of Revival? He’s always walked a tightrope between pretty good and unremarkable, and part of his appeal is making that tension look natural instead of intractable. But ever since WCS America Season 2, he has looked firmly unremarkable. Revival enters Toronto as frigid as a glacier, incapable of generating any traction over the last two months. His woes are well documented at this point. He does not excel at any matchup in this patch, can’t string together a series of wins for qualification or advancement, and appears incapable of figuring out ZvP. That last point is especially worrisome as Toronto is teeming with top-tier protoss, many of them superior to what Revival faces in his region. Revival’s issues already cost him his Premier League spot this season. Sadly, it looks like the trend will continue unless he finds his mojo again.

#18: (Z)Leenock kr

Continuing the trend of old timers with roller coaster careers is Leenock. The Yoe Flash Wolves zerg was once considered the best zerg in the world and destined to become a champion. It came true at MLG Providence 2011, and it's happened every now and then until DreamHack Stockholm 2013. Since then, the Leenocktopus has descended to the level of middling Korean filler. That seems like a harsh thing to say about the GSL silver medalist, but a quick glance at his results page shows 17-24th over and over again, with a stray 3rd/4th place at DreamHack. He had a good chance of winning the ZvZfest that was Taiwan Open after defeating Taeja--where he impressed with his mutalisk control and zergling usage--but he was unable to overcome HyuN. So don't be surprised if this ends up with another 17th-24th on his liquipedia page.

#17: (Z)Jaedong kr

It's always tough to write about Jaedong as he is so unpredictable. A part of you always wants to give him the benefit of the doubt since he, after all, is 'The One True Dong' and he does, at times, reach semi-finals. Yet if we have to be realistic he will most likely fall early on at IEM Toronto as he has never qualified from an open bracket before. Despite managing to take his WCS group to reach the round of 16 for the first time this year, he fell early in Red Bull Battlegrounds Detroit and the KeSPA Cup qualifiers. His much vaunted JvZ couldn't earn him gold at Taiwan Open either, where he lost to the Taiwanese Ian in the quarter finals. This doesn't fill us with much confidence, even though he is fortunate enough to be in the easier bracket. This is the first tournament since GSL Season 1 2013 that Jaedong and Flash are competing in the same tournament, so the Tyrant and his fans must be salivating at the thought of them finally meeting on a big stage in SC2. The odds are stacked against him, but he seems to like it that way.

#16: (P)First kr

Perpetually overshadowed by the San/StarDust/MC triumvirate in WCS Europe, there is no better time or place for First to make a bold impression. Thanks to a great qualifier run he won’t have to risk the murky depths of the Open Bracket. His Stage 2 group is tough yet currently the weakest out of the 4, while First’s PvP proficiency gives him a decent shot at taking out sOs. From an opportunistic viewpoint, the possible synchronicity between joining TCM and attending Toronto is unmistakable. What better way to impress an established organization just entering the scene, thereby securing your future, than performing well against a host of KeSPA representatives? First’s recent blunders in WCS Europe won’t be buried so easily, but a solid run here will wash away some of the bitterness.

#15: (Z)Scarlett ca

After a short hiatus at the start of 2014, the Queen of Blades has returned stronger than ever. She helped lead her team to a second title in the ATC and has also been performing well in individual tournaments. Still training in Korea, Scarlett’s hard work is finally bearing fruit as she qualified for IEM Toronto, WCS PL Ro16, and the Red Bull finals in D.C. As the undisputed top Canadian player, Scarlett will likely be a huge crowd favorite heading into Toronto. While this may be just her second ever IEM event, Scarlett does have homecourt advantage - the ultimate creep spread. Still, she'll need all the support she can get with Flash and MC in her group. One of only two foreigners seeded into pool play, Scarlett - alongside Snute - will be the foreign hope of this tournament. Prepare to be dazzled by a new haircut this weekend and expect to see some great games from North America’s most beloved protoss.

#14: (Z)Snute no

A heavy candidate for top foreigner of 2014, Snute has had one hell of a roller coaster ride this year. On the one hand, Snute conquered several TakeTV events, led Norway to gold in Nation Wars, and has hit top eight in multiple premier tournaments. But on the other hand, he has crashed out early in the previous two seasons of WCS Europe. While the Norwegian Zerg can rival the top Koreans on a good day, he sometimes crumbles under the pressure and reminds us why Koreans were so dominant in 2013. As the highest ranking foreigner in WCS, Snute will need an encore performance of IEM Shenzhen in order to stay in the top 16. Showing no fear of KeSPA, he defeated the likes of Stork and TRUE live in China and has also beaten INnoVation in the past. Snute is solid when it comes to ZvZ and has an incredibly patient mindset against both terran and protoss. So if he can overcome his mental block and stay confident, Snute has a good shot to go very far in Toronto.

#13: (Z)viOLet kr

Most Korean players view an IEM event as a slightly exotic destination, a chance to experience a new format against new opponents in a strange location. For viOLet it is a sort of second home. He first garnered widespread recognition at Sao Paulo, where he upset SuperNova to win his first premier tournament. Ever since that magical moment, the circuit has been the stage for his most consistent performances. Never finishing lower than the quarterfinals in 4 total appearances bodes well for him at Toronto…yet this is new territory for viOLet. Simply put, he has never attended an IEM tournament with this level of competition. At least he will be avoiding the worst of it in the group stage, where he faces familiar competition in HyuN and YoDa. Honestly it’s not all bad news. A lucky Open Bracket pick, some elbow grease, and a bit of zerg magic should propel him to another Round of 8.

#12: (T)Bunny dk

When Bunny won Gfinity G3, it presented a sea change in the way we view foreigners and shifted their place in the hierarchy of Starcraft talent. Where it was once every foreigner below and every Korean on top, we've now come to accept the fact that the very best foreigners can compete with top rated Koreans. Many of the strongest the world has to offer can now be ranked fairly above middle tier Koreans without raising suspicions of bias, and Bunny's place at 12 in such a deep tournament goes to show how far he's climbed since arriving on Team Liquid. No longer the precocious talent, Bunny took one weekend to mark his name onto the list of best foreigners. Though he only finished in the Ro32 in Detroit, he almost took out San in WCS EU to reach the Ro16. That isn't enough to land him in the top 10, but a good performance here could catapult him into stardom.

#11: (Z)Life kr

Life’s showings over the last two months have been scattershot, most instances on the side of disappointment. He dropped out of Code A at the bottom of his group, failed to advance from the group stages of IEM Shenzhen, and bombed out spectacularly in Destiny I. But it seems like his dip into mediocrity was only temporary. According to a certain informant Life has resumed his practice routine and will be in shape for the Open Bracket. Despite such assurances, even a reenergized version of the StarTale zerg will find the competition stiff. Starting with a rough match against WCS champion StarDust, Toronto is going to be battle-tested turtles all the way down. Life will have to play transcendentally well if he wants to reassert his place as a member of the zerg elite.

10-1
The Contenders

This is where it gets interesting. All of these players have shown that they are championship contenders in any tournament they enter. They have the history to prove it, and the only thing separating them is current form. Some players are hotter than others, but will they be able to ride that momentum into a title? It's margins of victory are small, but that's all it takes to find one's self on the podium.




#10: (P)MC kr

Nobody embodies reliability as well as the Boss Toss. With the exception of a dry stretch through the days of Broodlord/Infestor, MC has stayed a constant presence for fans of decisive, dazzling gameplay. Of course MC’s foray into the foreign scene have come at a significant cost – while he remains the most accomplished protoss in SC2 history, he is far from being the best protoss in the world. The Korean scene has become an intense pressure cooker with the integration of the KeSPA elite, and several of their envoys are in attendance at Toronto. When it comes to pure skill, it’s hard to argue that sOs, herO and Zest don’t surpass MC. By the same token, such facts aren’t going to deter MC from trying to prove otherwise. Few players have more experience in weekend tournaments, and the legend will eagerly show these whippersnappers the consequences of underestimating him in such a setting.

#9: (P)StarDust kr

After conquering Europe in Season 2, StarDust has proven that his sojourn to was the right thing for his career. While many have tried to imitate him, very few have made the old continent their home as much as StarDust. He's one of the most avid travelers in the scene--he's competed in 11 Premier tournaments this year alone--yet this is surprisingly only his third adventure in America after MLG Anaheim and Red Bull Detroit. Despite his 4-0 sweep of San and his moderate success in Europe, IEM Toronto is a different beast and a far more difficult tournament than he has ever competed in. After leaving KeSPA in 2012, he'll see a few familiar faces at the tournament, and it'll be interesting to see whether he reverts back to the inconsequential M18M or continue being mYi's star. With the KeSPA Cup coming up in two weeks, this will be his first test to see whether he's learned to fly since his migration.

#8: (T)YoDa kr

Of all the previous IEM champions attending this event, YoDa's story is perhaps the most unique. Once called the best player on IM by none other than Mvp, the King himself, many were waiting for YoDa to finally show his talent. From a storytelling perspective, he chose the best possible stage to do so - he won an IEM event whose semifinals consistent entirely of Incredible Miracle players, and YoDa triumphed over all of them, defeating Mvp and First to claim his first and only championship. But then? Silence. YoDa left IM, moved to Europe and seemed doomed to mediocrity.

But something has finally begun to click for him and his play seems to have improved immensely over the past few weeks. Be it qualifier runs, WCS or other tournaments - YoDa has stepped up a gear. He already knows how it feels to win an IEM, but the burning question for him is whether or not he's in good enough shape to challenge for one again.

#7: (Z)HyuN kr

Though his bitter fall to Sen in the finals of the Taiwan Open was a difficult pill to swallow, HyuN won't have a disappointment hangover as one of the most experienced players in international tournaments. IEM Toronto will be his 12th premier tournament this year, and his place as the #1 ranked WCS player leaves no doubt about his accomplishments. Despite his numerous titles, IEM remains an item on his "To Win" list; the closest he's come is a semi final loss to NaNiwa at IEM New York last year. Unfortunately for HyuN, his unicorn may continue to elude him, especially with his finals failures in recent months. He's now lost to Sen, Bunny and Life in major finals, and he lost to viOLet early in Red Bull Detroit. These were all players HyuN is favored to beat, but the Spider zerg fell short. Could he be resting on his laurels? He finds himself in a group with YoDa and viOLet, two opponents he has lost to in the past month. HyuN must bring his A-game if he wants to that IEM crown.

#6: (T)Polt kr


Just when it looked like Captain America was going to become the next silver surfer with runner ups at Anaheim and Atlanta, the CM Storm terran conquered Detroit last week to restore our faith in him. He only dropped 2 games the entire tournament and swept Taeja in the finals to put an end to his summer of dominance. Though his 2014 has not glittered as much as the previous year--in fact Detroit is his first gold--he's yet to fail to reach the quarter finals of any premier tournament he's attended. Though IEM remains one of the ducks in his sparkling resume, there is a sense of inevitability with its return to his adoptive continent. As one of the game's greats, his current place in the hierarchy of talent is up for debate as he often only competes in American tournaments that many view are 'watered down' without the participation of the best Korean players. This will be his opportunity to silence the naysayers and solidify his seat in the pantheon of greats as he is set to face the best his homeland has to offer.

#5: (T)TaeJa kr

Is the summer already over? After a dominant 2 months culminating in IEM Shenzhen, Taeja has looked vulnerable since the weather has started to cool. He looked susceptible to shenanigans in WCS AM dropping a map each to hendralisk and XiGua, and he was swept in the final of Red Bull Detroit against a Polt that has had his TvT doubted all year long. For some, that's still an excellent return, but expectations are higher for players of Taeja's caliber. His Taiwan Open exit in the very first match of the tournament looked like a sign that the equinox was nigh, but it did give him the chance to step back and take a break from competition. Truth be told, it's the Liquid Terran's condition that often determines his results over any sort of matchup analysis, and a tight June-July-August might finally be catching up with him. He hasn't gone to twitter to complain about it (though he did have a cold in July) and he's refrained from participating in anything other than premier tournaments, so we might be making a fuss over nothing. But if he starts grabbing his wrists and looking unsettled, you know his performances will suffer. Is the weather in Toronto nice this time of year?

#4: (P)herO kr

CJ herO has had his ups and downs, but at the end of the day he is always in the conversation for top 5 protoss in the world. The second-best player in Proleague, 2-time IEM Champion, and online qualifier monster exited his last IEM event with a bloody $100,000 loss to sOs. Since then he has lost some of his dominant aura, settling into a more inconsistent form of occasional brilliance and occasional mediocrity. The most recent results from which herO's current form can be assessed are his severely disappointing 1-4 drop out of Code A and his impressive run through the Redbull BattleGrounds Online Open. Going 5-5 in the main event in all high-level PvTs to earn second and making two very impressive runs through the qualifiers show that herO has recovered some of whatever he lost in his Code A games.

That said, herO's offline performances recently, including the Proleague playoffs, have not been as good as his online rampages, so there is some doubt that he will return to IEM as the IEM herO of old. Regardless, it's hard to get past that his worst ever finish at an IEM event is a second place. Now that he has no Code S to practice for, he can exert 100% effort into a tournament that would help his Blizzcon chances immensely with WCS points (he's currently sitting 16th in the standings). The table is set for herO to put everything into the last IEM event of 2014, and his previous success gives good reason to believe he'll excel yet again.

#3: (P)sOs kr

sOs is the hundred-grand man, a top-tier toss whose skills only go up when playing for gigantic prize pools. Sure, IEM Toronto itself doesn't have a huge payout--about ten times less than what $o$ usually wins--but it does have something immensely important for sOs. Currently sitting near the bottom of the top 16, a good placement in the not-so-frigid north is all that sOs needs to clinch a spot as the returning champion to Blizzcon. With solid performances in Proleague and the GSL, it's certain that failure here would be immensely disappointing.

His PvP in particular has been impressive, and he will always be considered the favorite against most protoss not called Zest or Rain. He's relied on the matchup for most of 2014, and he's only recently regained his composure in PvZ. In Season 2, he was dumped out of the Ro32 by Shine in macro games, marking a low point for the build order wizard. He was able to get revenge in Season 3 to head to the Ro16, but he lost to EffOrt's early pools in the winners' match. It's only a matter of time until he finds another loophole in the meta, but his PvT continues to be largely untested aside from a harsh defeat to Flash. Despite all this, sOs is the one player you can expect to turns things around on a dime (or a large check, in this case) and he's sure to pick things up as the next 100k tournament approaches.

#2: (T)Flash kr

The first step starts here.

#1: (P)Zest kr

The title of "Best Player in the World" is one that's as elusive as it is omnipresent. It gets thrown around by spectators and even commentators day in - day out, but only very seldom does someone have a universally accepted claim to it. Zest is one of those rare cases, a champion who, for some amount of time this year, was considered to be the best in the world by almost everyone. All killing SKT in the Proleague Playoff Finals of Round 1 proved to be just the tip of the iceberg, as Zest then went on to win Code S and the GSL Global Championship. But before all of that happened, Zest was still climbing the ladder, holding rank 1 on the Korean server while making deep runs in any online qualifier he entered.

His title as the best in the world may have slipped away from him in most recent times, but not much else has changed about Zest. He won the last two Asia Qualifiers for IEM events, he's still going strong in Proleague and GSL and most still rate him one of the top 2-3 protoss players in the world. His reputation took a bit of a beating at the last IEM he went to, but the KT powerhouse will try everything to salvage it and reclaim his spot on top of the StarCraft II world. Why not start by winning the most stacked IEM to date?

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August 28 2014 08:12 GMT
#2
I agree with these rankings, BUT, we shall see God rise and take this title :D

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August 28 2014 08:15 GMT
#3
I was forced to put Jer in this power rank and I regret it already
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August 28 2014 08:16 GMT
#4
Very interesting "Flash" writeup. Nice effort.
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Profile Joined August 2011
France138 Posts
August 28 2014 08:18 GMT
#5
Only one zerg in the top 10? I'm expecting a lot more of them in the actual top 10 of this event. JD, Scarlett, Snute, I'm looking at you! :D
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Australia554 Posts
August 28 2014 08:18 GMT
#6
Yeah. Nice one TL. Hugs all plus flash.
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Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
August 28 2014 08:24 GMT
#7
This line up is so stacked.. I normally love to throw out my predictions but even after reading this I still can't make my mind up! :D Looking forward to this event massively.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 28 2014 08:26 GMT
#8
Jer for champion!

Also puck isn't Canadian :p
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Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 28 2014 08:30 GMT
#9
So hyped for this tournament. We just had an awesome sc2 weekend with red bull. Now, we have a stacked tournament in Toronto? Woot!
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fatalbino
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
August 28 2014 08:38 GMT
#10
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.
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Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
August 28 2014 08:39 GMT
#11
Scarlett is a protoss? I dont understand the joke
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 28 2014 08:40 GMT
#12
On August 28 2014 17:39 minhblizzard wrote:
Scarlett is a protoss? I dont understand the joke


See here, 2nd on the list
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Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
August 28 2014 08:41 GMT
#13
I heard few weeks ago that TL won't release any Powerank that don't put Taeja 1st to be up to their reputation of TL bias.

Taeja only 5th!!! TL loosing faith!
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Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
August 28 2014 08:42 GMT
#14
Flash is slowly becoming (or returning to) the player we expected him to be when he switched over. Watching his steady improvement is like witnessing the rebirth of the phoenix!
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Profile Joined August 2014
United States87 Posts
August 28 2014 08:48 GMT
#15
Only one zerg in top ten and pretty low on that list. Not exactly surprising with zerg winning roughly 14% of premier tournament in 2014, but still. Either way this lineup looks stacked and I hope the tournament games reflect this into an amazing tournament.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2013
Germany60 Posts
August 28 2014 08:52 GMT
#16
Thanks a lot for doing power rans again <3
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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 28 2014 08:53 GMT
#17
On August 28 2014 17:41 klup wrote:
I heard few weeks ago that TL won't release any Powerank that don't put Taeja 1st to be up to their reputation of TL bias.

Taeja only 5th!!! TL loosing faith!


Hahahahahaha, dang we messed up
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 28 2014 08:56 GMT
#18
Nice write-up. But I think, 'The One True Dong' is actually one of DRG's titles.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 28 2014 08:58 GMT
#19
On August 28 2014 17:56 Xoronius wrote:
Nice write-up. But I think, 'The One True Dong' is actually one of DRG's titles.


Ya, Jaedong is "the false dong"
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Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
August 28 2014 09:03 GMT
#20
On August 28 2014 17:40 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 17:39 minhblizzard wrote:
Scarlett is a protoss? I dont understand the joke


See here, 2nd on the list

OMG wow. Thank you
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 28 2014 09:16 GMT
#21
I'm so happy to see Jer on this list.
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Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
August 28 2014 09:18 GMT
#22
KESPAAAAAAAAAAA
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Profile Joined March 2013
Maldives54 Posts
August 28 2014 09:30 GMT
#23
Perfect tournament for Taeja. Impossibly stacked and the best korea has to offer. Seems like a sure win.
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Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom371 Posts
August 28 2014 09:35 GMT
#24
Hasn't stardust done 3 NA events, not 2? I could have sworn I remember seeing his name in an MLG bracket back hen Light was still around
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 28 2014 09:41 GMT
#25
It's back bitches
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Charlie Sheens House51464 Posts
August 28 2014 09:42 GMT
#26
On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


Consistent because he doesn't play with the big boys in Korea anymore. He left Korea to win some money in Europe and America before retiring very soon™

Zest Flash $O$ and herO are more than a match for him and are rightly ranked above him.
Like Licther said in the rank, Polt's TvT is not even said to be that good and he rolled Taeja in the final. Also if you look at who they beat to get there to the final of that tournament....

He is a good player, no question. But is he better than the 4 people above him. No not for me he isn't.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
August 28 2014 09:49 GMT
#27
On August 28 2014 17:15 lichter wrote:
I was forced to put Jer in this power rank and I regret it already

is Jer = Chaos?
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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 28 2014 09:49 GMT
#28
On August 28 2014 18:49 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 17:15 lichter wrote:
I was forced to put Jer in this power rank and I regret it already

is Jer = Chaos?


Yes!
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Sweden983 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 09:56:48
August 28 2014 09:55 GMT
#29
On August 28 2014 18:35 myxoma_strain wrote:
Hasn't stardust done 3 NA events, not 2? I could have sworn I remember seeing his name in an MLG bracket back hen Light was still around


ah yeah you are correct. He qualified for MLG Fall 2012 through the open NA Online qualifiers.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Fall/Championship

fell early on against Soulkey haha
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Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 28 2014 10:19 GMT
#30
Flash!!!!!!!!!!
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covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
August 28 2014 10:35 GMT
#31
Flasshuuu vs Zest finals!! And Zest will cheese the ass out of Flash before any SCV pulls
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Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
August 28 2014 10:39 GMT
#32
Believe in Bunny.

I believe in Bunny!

(Also, it'll be fun to see Flash win it all.)
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Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
August 28 2014 10:48 GMT
#33
Leenock will do pretty well I think. Not win it but finish pretty reasonable, higher than 17-24th.
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Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
August 28 2014 10:49 GMT
#34
On August 28 2014 19:35 covetousrat wrote:
Flasshuuu vs Zest finals!! And Zest will cheese the ass out of Flash before any SCV pulls

But this time Flash will be prepared.

Flash Flash Flash! All aboard the hype train!
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
August 28 2014 10:55 GMT
#35
oh my god i am going to get annihilated
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 28 2014 10:55 GMT
#36
Dear shoutout!
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 28 2014 11:04 GMT
#37
On August 28 2014 19:55 Jer99 wrote:
oh my god i am going to get annihilated


seriously though if you beat snute you're dead to me
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Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 28 2014 11:05 GMT
#38
Flash winning this would be absolutely amazing.

If he doesn't, I'm sure Zest brings home the trophy for KT.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
August 28 2014 11:05 GMT
#39
On August 28 2014 19:55 Jer99 wrote:
oh my god i am going to get annihilated


Come on man, we'll be rooting for you ! With the power of TL, nobody will stop you ! ;-p
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 28 2014 11:08 GMT
#40
Jaedong at rank 17, someone wants to see me banned!

But I love those power ranks, so thanks .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 28 2014 11:08 GMT
#41
On August 28 2014 19:55 Jer99 wrote:
oh my god i am going to get annihilated


Make sure to play mech vs Snute to experience what playing vs the swarmhost king feels like
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Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
August 28 2014 11:16 GMT
#42
On August 28 2014 19:55 Jer99 wrote:
oh my god i am going to get annihilated

non-sense. I'll give you some patented Jakethesnake strats in the car on our drive down. you'll win this thing.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44079 Posts
August 28 2014 11:36 GMT
#43
Flash vs JD finals boys

calling it !
this is a quote
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Belgica34432 Posts
August 28 2014 11:37 GMT
#44
Jer #1, TL writers what the fuck
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Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
August 28 2014 11:44 GMT
#45
*posts in the thread*

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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 28 2014 11:45 GMT
#46
On August 28 2014 19:55 Jer99 wrote:
oh my god i am going to get annihilated

Just BC rush.
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Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 12:04:32
August 28 2014 12:03 GMT
#47
Taeja, herO, Flash those are my bets for having the greatest likelihood of taking this tournament.

Zest is falling off, Cure showed it expertly in their code S group. Still Zest managed to squeeze through by taking out SK a second time. Still not promising for him.

sOs? He is the master of builds, he is superb when planning for a series like for example PL. He does however need a lot of bracket luck to get far in weekends tournaments, he is weaker with less planning. sOs and Taeja are opposites, this is Taejas field not sOs's

Dark horses: Polt, First and Jaedong.

First is greatly under appreciated, he is amazing, he will prove you all wrong. Jaedong usually shows sparks of brilliance after long periods of inactivity (tons of training), this feels like a time when the Jaedong monster will show its beautiful mug yet again. Polt is simply the master of strategy, he can take out anyone, any day. Wash your neck and wait.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 12:04 GMT
#48
Taeja isn't high enough for me to complain about liquid bias
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Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
August 28 2014 12:08 GMT
#49
fucking GREAT write up guys, love it
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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
August 28 2014 12:09 GMT
#50
Despite only being 1 rank higher than Jer, Bones is probably around 2x as good.

Wow, so bm
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 28 2014 12:22 GMT
#51
On August 28 2014 20:44 coL.hendralisk wrote:
*posts in the thread*



I expect to see more of this during the weekend

:p
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SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 12:23:35
August 28 2014 12:23 GMT
#52
Taeja only seems to lose when he's favored, so him being #5 on this PR actually gives me hope that he'll win the tournament.

Unless he loses to Jer somehow.
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Profile Joined June 2012
Norway16 Posts
August 28 2014 12:46 GMT
#53
Mandatory Snute-chant. Channel you inner beast and slaughter herO in open bracket!
I have no time for gains!
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 28 2014 12:49 GMT
#54
MC and Stardust a little high. Bunny is good, but I really think people are getting ahead of themselves on him. Hyun a bit too high also. I have no idea what Violet has done to merit being above Snute and Scar. Rest looks mostly good.
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looknohands119
Profile Joined March 2010
United States815 Posts
August 28 2014 12:49 GMT
#55
Lookin' good guys. I want moar! Power rank should be a basic thing done for every premier event.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 28 2014 12:52 GMT
#56
On August 28 2014 21:49 looknohands119 wrote:
Lookin' good guys. I want moar! Power rank should be a basic thing done for every premier event.

Takes a ton of time and effort, and is often very arbitrary because competition in Sc2 is so scattered. It was easier in BW because the scene was far more centralized.
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 28 2014 12:59 GMT
#57
I am not joking jer, should you eliminate snute I will 100% ban you. The length of this ban will depend on my mood
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 28 2014 13:09 GMT
#58
On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


I think it's the opposite. Taeja is at a disadvantage if you take recent results into account. Long term he's one of the most consistent players ever and definitely the best foreign tournament player of all-time. He's played some games in foreign events that give even the best gsl games a run for their money (His game vs Bogus on Newkirk for instance).

==

I can buy this ranking since it seems we're just talking about the best players on recent results and ofc more weight was given to those performing in Korea. Personally, I'd lean more favoring those who have proven themselves in foreign events in the past though, since that is the environment we find ourselves in. It should be very apparent by now that some people just don't do as well in different types of tournaments.

Zest for instance came into IEM Shenzen as probably the best player in the world, but his level of play was far from what you'd expect given that title. Especially against Taeja, he really made some embarrassing moves that series. I'm confidently calling that he doesn't even make it out of his group this IEM.

Taeja and herO are my top 2 picks to win this tournament. herO has already proven he's good in like any environment and Taeja is just Taeja the collector of 10k checks.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 28 2014 13:10 GMT
#59
I'm so excited for this tournament. It gathers some of the best KR Koreans, the best Koreigners and the best Foreigners. When was the last time that happened ?
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 28 2014 13:20 GMT
#60
I'm surprised no one has insulted our intelligence yet
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
August 28 2014 13:29 GMT
#61
On August 28 2014 20:36 goody153 wrote:
Flash vs JD finals boys

calling it !


As awesome as it is to have the sc2 rematch between the 2 gods of BW, it'll probably end up being really one-sided now. Would've been much better during the period when JD was massing second places all over the place.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
August 28 2014 13:36 GMT
#62
A tournament where the TL editors consider Life not being in the top-10 of players must be scary.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 28 2014 13:42 GMT
#63
Some of the local picks were brutal. Fair, but brutal.

I'm so pumped for this. Even though it doesn't start until this evening and will likely cause me to be up all night.
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Holzbrot
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany12 Posts
August 28 2014 13:45 GMT
#64
On August 28 2014 22:20 lichter wrote:
I'm surprised no one has insulted our intelligence yet


U R Dum!

Seriously though, I agree with pretty much everything in this . Hoping for a Zest vs. Flash final.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 28 2014 13:48 GMT
#65
On August 28 2014 17:16 TheEmulator wrote:
Very interesting "Flash" writeup. Nice effort.


thanks
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Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 28 2014 13:49 GMT
#66
On August 28 2014 20:44 coL.hendralisk wrote:
*posts in the thread*


See this is why we like you
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metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
August 28 2014 13:50 GMT
#67
On August 28 2014 17:15 lichter wrote:
I was forced to put Jer in this power rank and I regret it already


I think it's pretty cool.

Congrats Jer for being power ranked!
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 28 2014 13:50 GMT
#68
I think Leenock is more than hopeful as he is the weekend player
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
August 28 2014 13:56 GMT
#69
On August 28 2014 22:50 metroid composite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 17:15 lichter wrote:
I was forced to put Jer in this power rank and I regret it already


I think it's pretty cool.

Congrats Jer for being power ranked!


Pretty funny to see him on there and you were ultra brutal in your review of him XD nothing wrong with having a bit of fun (much diablo)
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 28 2014 13:56 GMT
#70
On August 28 2014 22:36 [F_]aths wrote:
A tournament where the TL editors consider Life not being in the top-10 of players must be scary.


It's because I didn't have anything to do with this rank
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 28 2014 14:02 GMT
#71
Life only #11? I think he is in top 5 here.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 28 2014 14:10 GMT
#72
On August 28 2014 23:02 Weavel wrote:
Life only #11? I think he is in top 5 here.

I tried, lichter is hater, people are doubters, etc. etc.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 14:11 GMT
#73
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 14:12:07
August 28 2014 14:11 GMT
#74
On August 28 2014 22:20 lichter wrote:
I'm surprised no one has insulted our intelligence yet


Life is a bit too low. You guys be dumb.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
August 28 2014 14:13 GMT
#75
On August 28 2014 21:59 KadaverBB wrote:
I am not joking jer, should you eliminate snute I will 100% ban you. The length of this ban will depend on my mood


That sounds totally worth.

"I got banned from TL. Why? Oh it was no big deal, really, I just beat their players too much."
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 28 2014 14:14 GMT
#76
On August 28 2014 22:29 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 20:36 goody153 wrote:
Flash vs JD finals boys

calling it !


As awesome as it is to have the sc2 rematch between the 2 gods of BW, it'll probably end up being really one-sided now. Would've been much better during the period when JD was massing second places all over the place.

Actually, I think that it would be just as one-sided as if they are playing today, but with different winner.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
August 28 2014 14:38 GMT
#77
On August 28 2014 20:44 coL.hendralisk wrote:
*posts in the thread*


What a god.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
August 28 2014 14:39 GMT
#78
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
August 28 2014 14:39 GMT
#79
Also fk yeah Jer get in there #28 represent
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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 14:43:55
August 28 2014 14:43 GMT
#80
MARU!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! T_________T

On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match


Go home! You're drunk!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 14:45 GMT
#81
On August 28 2014 23:39 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.

About as strong as Marineking
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 28 2014 14:48 GMT
#82
On August 28 2014 23:45 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 23:39 Yorkie wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.

About as strong as Marineking

So aLive > MKP = Life?
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 28 2014 14:50 GMT
#83
Life fighting!!!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 14:52 GMT
#84
On August 28 2014 23:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 23:45 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:39 Yorkie wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.

About as strong as Marineking

So aLive > MKP = Life?

Alive split the two series with Marineking so he's equally bad
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 28 2014 14:55 GMT
#85
On August 28 2014 23:52 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 23:48 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:45 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:39 Yorkie wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.

About as strong as Marineking

So aLive > MKP = Life?

Alive split the two series with Marineking so he's equally bad

He won when it counted and made Code A so he comes out ahead
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 14:56 GMT
#86
On August 28 2014 23:55 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 23:52 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:48 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:45 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:39 Yorkie wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.

About as strong as Marineking

So aLive > MKP = Life?

Alive split the two series with Marineking so he's equally bad

He won when it counted and made Code A so he comes out ahead

2-2 is still 2-2.


Taeja vs flash finals with flash sweeping
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eXeYukon
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
45 Posts
August 28 2014 14:58 GMT
#87
On August 28 2014 19:55 Jer99 wrote:
oh my god i am going to get annihilated


I've never heard of Jer before this but now I want him to win.... And I don't feel bad about it.
JER FIGHTING!
SkySC2
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany303 Posts
August 28 2014 15:05 GMT
#88
FlaSh vs Jaedong final ofc
MarineKing !!
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 28 2014 15:05 GMT
#89
Meh. Flash isn't even the best player on his own team.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 15:07:55
August 28 2014 15:06 GMT
#90
On August 28 2014 23:56 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 23:55 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:52 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:48 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:45 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:39 Yorkie wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.

About as strong as Marineking

So aLive > MKP = Life?

Alive split the two series with Marineking so he's equally bad

He won when it counted and made Code A so he comes out ahead

2-2 is still 2-2.


Taeja vs flash finals with flash sweeping


hahahahahahahah, my 2nd fav toss $o$ gona smash the shit out of US NA soil, not a single map loss.

Also Jer electronic music thread represent gogogo!
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metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
August 28 2014 15:09 GMT
#91
On August 28 2014 23:58 eXeYukon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 19:55 Jer99 wrote:
oh my god i am going to get annihilated


I've never heard of Jer before this but now I want him to win.... And I don't feel bad about it.
JER FIGHTING!


He's disgustingly good at Starjeweled. Like...I legit think that if this was a Starjeweled tournament he'd sweep. (There's maybe 6 people better than him globally, and none of them are in this tournament).

Any way we can convince IEM to add Starjeweled to the list of legal maps?
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 28 2014 15:13 GMT
#92
On August 28 2014 23:56 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 23:55 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:52 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:48 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:45 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:39 Yorkie wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.

About as strong as Marineking

So aLive > MKP = Life?

Alive split the two series with Marineking so he's equally bad

He won when it counted and made Code A so he comes out ahead

2-2 is still 2-2.


Taeja vs flash finals with flash sweeping

2-2 is not still 2-2. If Polt beats Scarlett 2-0 in pools but she beats him 2-0 in loser's finals that is not equitable. aLive Code A MKP not dae aLive > MKP
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 28 2014 15:26 GMT
#93
What the hell is the point of writing a power rank if people ain't gonna flame each other over it? I'm disappointed you guys.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
August 28 2014 15:34 GMT
#94
On August 29 2014 00:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What the hell is the point of writing a power rank if people ain't gonna flame each other over it? I'm disappointed you guys.


Oh, my apologies, hold on.

*ahem*

Why the hell is MC ranked 10th? I doubt he even makes it out of his group, Scarlett has an 80% winrate against him, and there's no way he beats Flash. The third player in his group will be...second place from Dual Tournament #2 I guess? So...probably Life then? Life has a 100% winrate against MC. He's so screwed.
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zEEzz
Profile Joined October 2012
93 Posts
August 28 2014 15:34 GMT
#95
taeja #5

LET ME HEAR YOUR LAUGHS

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 28 2014 15:35 GMT
#96
My list.

+ Show Spoiler +
28. Jer (no tlpd lol)
27. (P)desRow
26. (P)Bones
25. (Z)Kane
24. (Z)hendralisk
23. (T)MaSa
22. (P)puCK
21. (P)HuK
20. (Z)Revival
19. (P)Oz
18. (T)Bunny
17. (P)First
16. (Z)viOLet
15. (Z)Scarlett
14. (Z)Snute
13. (Z)Leenock
12. (Z)Jaedong
11. (T)YoDa
10. (Z)Life
9. (P)StarDust
8. (P)MC
7. (Z)HyuN
6. (T)Polt
5. (P)herO[jOin]
4. (T)TaeJa
3. (P)sOs
2. (P)Zest
1. (T)Flash


That middle section is just so damn hard to decide. A lot of those players feel like they should be higher on the list but that just shows how fucking stacked this tournament is.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 15:37 GMT
#97
On August 29 2014 00:13 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 23:56 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:55 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:52 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:48 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:45 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:39 Yorkie wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.

About as strong as Marineking

So aLive > MKP = Life?

Alive split the two series with Marineking so he's equally bad

He won when it counted and made Code A so he comes out ahead

2-2 is still 2-2.


Taeja vs flash finals with flash sweeping

2-2 is not still 2-2. If Polt beats Scarlett 2-0 in pools but she beats him 2-0 in loser's finals that is not equitable. aLive Code A MKP not dae aLive > MKP

Yes. 2=2.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 28 2014 15:38 GMT
#98
On August 29 2014 00:34 metroid composite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 00:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What the hell is the point of writing a power rank if people ain't gonna flame each other over it? I'm disappointed you guys.


Oh, my apologies, hold on.

*ahem*

Why the hell is MC ranked 10th? I doubt he even makes it out of his group, Scarlett has an 80% winrate against him, and there's no way he beats Flash. The third player in his group will be...second place from Dual Tournament #2 I guess? So...probably Life then? Life has a 100% winrate against MC. He's so screwed.


So how are the winners of the dual tournament seeded into the group stage? I don't see that info anywhere.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 15:41 GMT
#99
I agree. MC is too high. He did poorly in the recent red bull qualifiers. He should be behind Scarlett bunny and snute
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looknohands119
Profile Joined March 2010
United States815 Posts
August 28 2014 15:44 GMT
#100
On August 28 2014 22:20 lichter wrote:
I'm surprised no one has insulted our intelligence yet


That's because everyone is just thankful that you guys did a power rank. Make sure to keep this stuff coming for each tournament. You guys have really been stepping things up the past few weeks and I want to see it continue to get even better! :D
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Mattidute
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands232 Posts
August 28 2014 15:52 GMT
#101
On August 29 2014 00:05 SkySC2 wrote:
FlaSh vs Jaedong final ofc


While a Flash vs Jaedong finals in SC2 would be awesome to see, with Jaedong's recent ZvT games compared to Flash's recent TvZ the finals would be pretty awful quality-wise and probably end up in a 4-0 win for Flash.
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
August 28 2014 15:59 GMT
#102
So freaking hyped for this i cant wait!!!!!
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
August 28 2014 16:08 GMT
#103
As usual, good read TL! I wanted to bash the writers for fun ^.^ but I actually agree with this PR!
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
August 28 2014 16:09 GMT
#104
On August 29 2014 00:52 Mattidute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 00:05 SkySC2 wrote:
FlaSh vs Jaedong final ofc


While a Flash vs Jaedong finals in SC2 would be awesome to see, with Jaedong's recent ZvT games compared to Flash's recent TvZ the finals would be pretty awful quality-wise and probably end up in a 4-0 win for Flash.


Flash's first SC2 tournament win is a FvJ smash? Yes please!
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Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
August 28 2014 16:12 GMT
#105
On August 29 2014 01:09 Yonnua wrote:
Flash's first SC2 tournament win is a FvJ smash? Yes please!

Nostalgia meter would crack the roof.
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paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
August 28 2014 16:13 GMT
#106
Yay, power ranks! Love these things.
holmesgenius
Profile Joined February 2013
Vietnam65 Posts
August 28 2014 16:19 GMT
#107
Im waiting for
+ JD vs Flash (bw legends)
+ MC vs Zest vs $O$ (best Toss)
+ Taeja vs anyone from Korean
+ Too bad we can't see Maru vs Taeja
Terran imbalance ---- Zerg wins ---- Protoss advances
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 28 2014 16:24 GMT
#108
On August 29 2014 01:19 holmesgenius wrote:
Im waiting for
+ JD vs Flash (bw legends)
+ MC vs Zest vs $O$ (best Toss)
+ Taeja vs anyone from Korean
+ Too bad we can't see Maru vs Taeja


MC is not even top 5 toss, he's not even close to in the running for best toss.
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Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
August 28 2014 16:31 GMT
#109
Flash is arguably in his best form right now. I see him as favorite to take the whole thing
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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
August 28 2014 16:35 GMT
#110
The points cut off for Blizzcon will probably be closer to 2600-2700. Pigbaby is currently 16th at 2450
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 28 2014 16:49 GMT
#111
On August 29 2014 00:52 Mattidute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 00:05 SkySC2 wrote:
FlaSh vs Jaedong final ofc


While a Flash vs Jaedong finals in SC2 would be awesome to see, with Jaedong's recent ZvT games compared to Flash's recent TvZ the finals would be pretty awful quality-wise and probably end up in a 4-0 win for Flash.


How is that different from BW? Unless Jaedong pulls the plug and tilts Flash.
Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
August 28 2014 16:51 GMT
#112
On August 29 2014 01:19 holmesgenius wrote:

+ Too bad we can't see Maru vs Captain America

Fixed that for ya
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 28 2014 17:01 GMT
#113
power rank without taeja as #1 is like a wol patch without bunker changes

can't trust it to be real
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imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
August 28 2014 17:10 GMT
#114
sOs is severely overrated, and so is Zest. I expect Zest to lose to both terrans in his group. Don't care much about sOs. Just because he cheesed everyone during patchtoss era to win both $100k events doesn't mean he's a good player.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 28 2014 17:13 GMT
#115
On August 29 2014 02:10 imrusty269 wrote:
sOs is severely overrated, and so is Zest. I expect Zest to lose to both terrans in his group. Don't care much about sOs. Just because he cheesed everyone during patchtoss era to win both $100k events doesn't mean he's a good player.

Yeah i think your opinion is valid, kinda, maybe, i guess, well no
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Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
August 28 2014 17:15 GMT
#116
i actually agree that Zest is slightly over rated at the moment. Obviously he has been #1 and continues to be near the top but not sure he is where he was a few months ago
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17651 Posts
August 28 2014 17:21 GMT
#117
On August 29 2014 01:35 asongdotnet wrote:
The points cut off for Blizzcon will probably be closer to 2600-2700. Pigbaby is currently 16th at 2450

from WCS Predictor
~ 0 % of the time 2,275 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 0.01 % of the time 2,300 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 0.98 % of the time 2,500 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 47.48 % of the time 2,825 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 85.1 % of the time 3,000 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 99.99 % of the time 3,775 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 100 % of the time 3,800 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon

~ 3.06 % of the time 2,600 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 3.68 % of the time 2,625 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 8.62 % of the time 2,650 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 10.74 % of the time 2,675 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 16.18 % of the time 2,700 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
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Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
August 28 2014 17:25 GMT
#118
I haven't watched every tournament lately, but is MaSa really justified to be higher than HuK, Kane and puCK? Those three have impressed me a fair amount lately. Maybe less so for puCK, but the other two seem to be definitely on the upswing right now.

On the same note, I feel like Snute has been having too many bad results lately to be placed 14. The same could be said for like 15 to 20 so idk.

Last but not least... what kind of non-believer does it take to place Flash anywhere else than #1??


tldr these writers are pretty dumb if you ask me
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 28 2014 17:28 GMT
#119
On August 29 2014 02:25 Epamynondas wrote:
I haven't watched every tournament lately, but is MaSa really justified to be higher than HuK, Kane and puCK? Those three have impressed me a fair amount lately. Maybe less so for puCK, but the other two seem to be definitely on the upswing right now.

On the same note, I feel like Snute has been having too many bad results lately to be placed 14. The same could be said for like 15 to 20 so idk.

Last but not least... what kind of non-believer does it take to place Flash anywhere else than #1??


tldr these writers are pretty dumb if you ask me


Well, Masa did win the Canadian qualifier for this event over Scarlett, Huk, Kane, ect so that's impressive.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 28 2014 17:58 GMT
#120
On August 29 2014 00:44 looknohands119 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 22:20 lichter wrote:
I'm surprised no one has insulted our intelligence yet


That's because everyone is just thankful that you guys did a power rank. Make sure to keep this stuff coming for each tournament. You guys have really been stepping things up the past few weeks and I want to see it continue to get even better! :D


We won't be doing it for each tournament because it gets repetitive and uninteresting.

I can, however, tease that there might be another kind of Power Rank coming soon
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 28 2014 17:59 GMT
#121
On August 29 2014 02:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 00:44 looknohands119 wrote:
On August 28 2014 22:20 lichter wrote:
I'm surprised no one has insulted our intelligence yet


That's because everyone is just thankful that you guys did a power rank. Make sure to keep this stuff coming for each tournament. You guys have really been stepping things up the past few weeks and I want to see it continue to get even better! :D


We won't be doing it for each tournament because it gets repetitive and uninteresting.

I can, however, tease that there might be another kind of Power Rank coming soon

Gumba's PR is finally getting posted?
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 28 2014 17:59 GMT
#122
On August 29 2014 01:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 01:19 holmesgenius wrote:
Im waiting for
+ JD vs Flash (bw legends)
+ MC vs Zest vs $O$ (best Toss)
+ Taeja vs anyone from Korean
+ Too bad we can't see Maru vs Taeja


MC is not even top 5 toss, he's not even close to in the running for best toss.

Best Foreigner Toss .
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 28 2014 18:04 GMT
#123
On August 29 2014 02:59 Lorning wrote:
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On August 29 2014 02:58 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 00:44 looknohands119 wrote:
On August 28 2014 22:20 lichter wrote:
I'm surprised no one has insulted our intelligence yet


That's because everyone is just thankful that you guys did a power rank. Make sure to keep this stuff coming for each tournament. You guys have really been stepping things up the past few weeks and I want to see it continue to get even better! :D


We won't be doing it for each tournament because it gets repetitive and uninteresting.

I can, however, tease that there might be another kind of Power Rank coming soon

Gumba's PR is finally getting posted?


I better make rank 1 for being probably the most illustrious LR poster of all time

And I'll ban him if I'm not.
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Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
August 28 2014 18:06 GMT
#124
On August 29 2014 02:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On August 29 2014 02:25 Epamynondas wrote:
I haven't watched every tournament lately, but is MaSa really justified to be higher than HuK, Kane and puCK? Those three have impressed me a fair amount lately. Maybe less so for puCK, but the other two seem to be definitely on the upswing right now.

On the same note, I feel like Snute has been having too many bad results lately to be placed 14. The same could be said for like 15 to 20 so idk.

Last but not least... what kind of non-believer does it take to place Flash anywhere else than #1??


tldr these writers are pretty dumb if you ask me


Well, Masa did win the Canadian qualifier for this event over Scarlett, Huk, Kane, ect so that's impressive.

Ssssh don't interefere with me calling names to the writers pls.

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Good point though
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33281 Posts
August 28 2014 18:15 GMT
#125
boooo this rank is terrrrrible
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 28 2014 18:20 GMT
#126
On August 29 2014 03:15 Waxangel wrote:
boooo this rank is terrrrrible

If they had put Flash first (which I told at least 1 of the writers to do), this thread would've been 3 times bigger aka more page views aka more money to TL. And more salt
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 28 2014 18:21 GMT
#127
On August 29 2014 03:20 Lorning wrote:
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On August 29 2014 03:15 Waxangel wrote:
boooo this rank is terrrrrible

If they had put Flash first (which I told at least 1 of the writers to do), this thread would've been 3 times bigger aka more page views aka more money to TL. And more salt


Salt more valuable than money imo

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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17651 Posts
August 28 2014 18:21 GMT
#128
On August 29 2014 03:20 Lorning wrote:
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On August 29 2014 03:15 Waxangel wrote:
boooo this rank is terrrrrible

If they had put Flash first (which I told at least 1 of the writers to do), this thread would've been 3 times bigger aka more page views aka more money to TL. And more salt

for sure, or you could've put him out of the top 10 lol
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Magnet
Profile Joined February 2014
United States77 Posts
August 28 2014 18:25 GMT
#129
I'm a little surprised to see Zest rated so high, and Taeja so low. The tournament format favors Taeja more than anybody, and Zest got hammered by Cure the other day in GSL. I would say swap Zest and Taeja and call it good. I guess the only thing bad for Taeja is the brutal opening group, but still I would give him the nod over Zest.
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Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
August 28 2014 18:48 GMT
#130
Taeja 3 x 0 Zest
Zest 2 x 0 Flash

=

Taeja 5 x 0 Flash

Math doesn't lie
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 28 2014 18:49 GMT
#131
On August 29 2014 00:37 Shellshock wrote:
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On August 29 2014 00:13 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:56 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:55 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:52 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:48 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:45 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:39 Yorkie wrote:
On August 28 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Life is ez. He'll lose to stardust in his first match

Shellshock please. Life is stronk.

About as strong as Marineking

So aLive > MKP = Life?

Alive split the two series with Marineking so he's equally bad

He won when it counted and made Code A so he comes out ahead

2-2 is still 2-2.


Taeja vs flash finals with flash sweeping

2-2 is not still 2-2. If Polt beats Scarlett 2-0 in pools but she beats him 2-0 in loser's finals that is not equitable. aLive Code A MKP not dae aLive > MKP

Yes. 2=2.

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 28 2014 18:55 GMT
#132
Foreigner chances are overestimated IMO. But we'll have to see won't we?
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Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 19:09:06
August 28 2014 19:03 GMT
#133
Anyone else realized that Zerg = hopeful? Bad days for the swarm T_T
Also the foreigners... Include MC, Stardust and Yoda in "the hopefuls" and increase the weight of the word "hope" there please foreign hope is realistic hope.
But great power rank overall, in other words, is it possible for the best koreans playing in the foreign scene + The best foreigners + some canadian locals + sOs and herO to beat the KT Rolster duo? O_O
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 19:17:06
August 28 2014 19:05 GMT
#134
On August 29 2014 03:15 Waxangel wrote:
boooo this rank is terrrrrible


We won't tolerate comments from the peanut gallery.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 28 2014 19:21 GMT
#135
On August 29 2014 03:15 Waxangel wrote:
boooo this rank is terrrrrible


wow you follow sc2?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 19:24 GMT
#136
On August 29 2014 04:21 Skynx wrote:
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On August 29 2014 03:15 Waxangel wrote:
boooo this rank is terrrrrible


wow you follow sc2?

he's a liquid bias elitist probably wants taeja #1 did you see his old power ranks?
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 28 2014 19:25 GMT
#137
On August 29 2014 04:21 Skynx wrote:
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On August 29 2014 03:15 Waxangel wrote:
boooo this rank is terrrrrible


wow you follow sc2?


Hearthstone must've suffered another DDoS attack at the time of that post.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 28 2014 19:55 GMT
#138
I really hope a Korean Protoss doesn't win this
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Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
August 28 2014 19:59 GMT
#139
On August 29 2014 04:55 vult wrote:
I really hope a Korean Protoss doesn't win this


They won't.
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Sh1bby
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany711 Posts
August 28 2014 20:12 GMT
#140
Sick writeup. Completely agree with the ranking - P & T are gonna own everyone this tournament.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 28 2014 20:13 GMT
#141
Bunny too high
MC a bit too high
Scarlett a bit too low
Life way too low.

god shouldnt be part of rankings.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 21:07:24
August 28 2014 20:39 GMT
#142
Zest rank1?. He got nydused! And had quite a tough time with his GSL group. No way. Violet should be higher (he beat Hyun, the #1 player in the world!!!) and Stardust should be higher too.

Taeja will win this if his wrists are good.
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Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 28 2014 20:43 GMT
#143
OK, this is a sick list of players. It looks like a GSL world finals (emphasis on the world part), amazing!
fatalbino
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
August 28 2014 22:35 GMT
#144
On August 28 2014 18:42 Pandemona wrote:
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On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


Consistent because he doesn't play with the big boys in Korea anymore. He left Korea to win some money in Europe and America before retiring very soon™

Zest Flash $O$ and herO are more than a match for him and are rightly ranked above him.
Like Licther said in the rank, Polt's TvT is not even said to be that good and he rolled Taeja in the final. Also if you look at who they beat to get there to the final of that tournament....

He is a good player, no question. But is he better than the 4 people above him. No not for me he isn't.


You make it sound like just because Taeja has moved out of Korea he hasn't been playing top tier Koreans. He's beaten Zest, Solar, Innovation, rain, life (too many times to count), sOs, etc. multiple times.

And it's completely unfair to say Taeja isn't doing well because he didn't win every single tournament he entered in. Oh he lost in the finals against Polt? Polt's tvt sucks? Taeja must be in a slump. Taeja lost a map to hendralisk? Wow he should have 2-0'd him, what a scrub.

The fact that in the most recent IEM tournament Taeja bested Zest 3-0 tells me that Taeja should be above Zest in the ranking. It's sad that people keep dismissing it as just "zest not himself, he is usually much better". People often forget when players make mistakes, it's because the opponent forces it out of them.
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Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 29 2014 02:39 GMT
#145
On August 29 2014 07:35 fatalbino wrote:
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On August 28 2014 18:42 Pandemona wrote:
On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


Consistent because he doesn't play with the big boys in Korea anymore. He left Korea to win some money in Europe and America before retiring very soon™

Zest Flash $O$ and herO are more than a match for him and are rightly ranked above him.
Like Licther said in the rank, Polt's TvT is not even said to be that good and he rolled Taeja in the final. Also if you look at who they beat to get there to the final of that tournament....

He is a good player, no question. But is he better than the 4 people above him. No not for me he isn't.


You make it sound like just because Taeja has moved out of Korea he hasn't been playing top tier Koreans. He's beaten Zest, Solar, Innovation, rain, life (too many times to count), sOs, etc. multiple times.


In 2014, he...actually hasn't. Outside of the Zest series and beating Life a few times (whose form has been sporadic ever since HoTS came out), he barely beat Solar, traded series with Inno, lost to sOs, Action, and Dear (I'll ignore the losses to the likes of Pigbaby just like I'll ignore the beatings he gave to the foreign Koreans and foreigners during this time).

So, no, he hasn't played Koreans still training for the GSL that often in tournaments these past months. However, no one is saying that Taeja isn't a top 5 Terran right now or anything like that, but the person you're responding to was responding to another person saying that Taeja should #1 in these rankings based on recent results, and that's highly questionable.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 29 2014 03:20 GMT
#146
This has the potential to be a great weekend.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 29 2014 03:45 GMT
#147
That Jer section hahha.
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fatalbino
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 03:46:29
August 29 2014 03:45 GMT
#148
x
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fatalbino
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
August 29 2014 03:52 GMT
#149
On August 29 2014 11:39 Qaatar wrote:
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On August 29 2014 07:35 fatalbino wrote:
On August 28 2014 18:42 Pandemona wrote:
On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


Consistent because he doesn't play with the big boys in Korea anymore. He left Korea to win some money in Europe and America before retiring very soon™

Zest Flash $O$ and herO are more than a match for him and are rightly ranked above him.
Like Licther said in the rank, Polt's TvT is not even said to be that good and he rolled Taeja in the final. Also if you look at who they beat to get there to the final of that tournament....

He is a good player, no question. But is he better than the 4 people above him. No not for me he isn't.


You make it sound like just because Taeja has moved out of Korea he hasn't been playing top tier Koreans. He's beaten Zest, Solar, Innovation, rain, life (too many times to count), sOs, etc. multiple times.


In 2014, he...actually hasn't. Outside of the Zest series and beating Life a few times (whose form has been sporadic ever since HoTS came out), he barely beat Solar, traded series with Inno, lost to sOs, Action, and Dear (I'll ignore the losses to the likes of Pigbaby just like I'll ignore the beatings he gave to the foreign Koreans and foreigners during this time).

So, no, he hasn't played Koreans still training for the GSL that often in tournaments these past months. However, no one is saying that Taeja isn't a top 5 Terran right now or anything like that, but the person you're responding to was responding to another person saying that Taeja should #1 in these rankings based on recent results, and that's highly questionable.


Yea so.... I just made a long ass reply to this comment and then it didn't go through for some reason. But anyways to recap...

The players I had listed, Taeja beat the majority of them in 2014 (with the exception of sOs and rain). Go look at liquipedia, a more reliable source. (I actually listed out each win but I am too lazy to do it again).

And to dismiss Taeja's wins versus top level Koreans (Innovation, Zest, and Solar), that of which are all in the Ro16 in the current GSL, just because he lost to pigbaby, a Korean, who went on to win WCS america season 2, is just plain ridiculous.

FYI: I did respond to the right person as I was the one who said Taeja should be #1. However, that is just my opinion. The author of this article has his own, I respect that.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 29 2014 04:20 GMT
#150
JD is pretty high up there considering his recent results... I may be biased since I saw + Show Spoiler [IEM DAY 1 spoiler] +
that HuK 2-0'd him
but I don't think nostalgia should bring him so high up the rank.
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PassionFruit
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 04:31:28
August 29 2014 04:29 GMT
#151
That Flash writeup. I remember when he was fucking pwnface in broodwar. No one in sc2 has dominated the scene like Flash in bw during his peak. Half the players would cheese against him because they knew they'd get pwned in a straight up match. And they'd lose to 14cc anyway, lol. Summer of Taeja? What the fuck is this shit, give me a break.

Flash hype!
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
August 29 2014 04:39 GMT
#152
zest 1st will prove so wrong
And taeja below flash, no way.
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 04:45:49
August 29 2014 04:44 GMT
#153
On August 29 2014 11:39 Qaatar wrote:
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On August 29 2014 07:35 fatalbino wrote:
On August 28 2014 18:42 Pandemona wrote:
On August 28 2014 17:38 fatalbino wrote:
I think Taeja should be first. He is by far one of the most consistent Starcraft II players in the world right now. Did you forget how recently Taeja 3-0'd Zest? He won the most recent IEM, Shenzhen, and came really close to winning the RedBull Detroit. I really think if you are going to rank someone it should be on recent results, not overall achievements.


Consistent because he doesn't play with the big boys in Korea anymore. He left Korea to win some money in Europe and America before retiring very soon™

Zest Flash $O$ and herO are more than a match for him and are rightly ranked above him.
Like Licther said in the rank, Polt's TvT is not even said to be that good and he rolled Taeja in the final. Also if you look at who they beat to get there to the final of that tournament....

He is a good player, no question. But is he better than the 4 people above him. No not for me he isn't.


You make it sound like just because Taeja has moved out of Korea he hasn't been playing top tier Koreans. He's beaten Zest, Solar, Innovation, rain, life (too many times to count), sOs, etc. multiple times.


In 2014, he...actually hasn't. Outside of the Zest series and beating Life a few times (whose form has been sporadic ever since HoTS came out), he barely beat Solar, traded series with Inno, lost to sOs, Action, and Dear (I'll ignore the losses to the likes of Pigbaby just like I'll ignore the beatings he gave to the foreign Koreans and foreigners during this time).

So, no, he hasn't played Koreans still training for the GSL that often in tournaments these past months. However, no one is saying that Taeja isn't a top 5 Terran right now or anything like that, but the person you're responding to was responding to another person saying that Taeja should #1 in these rankings based on recent results, and that's highly questionable.

Your data is not correct for one thing.
Taeja apparent only lost to all the Protoss with a larger portion attribution to the patch. No one won Protoss at that point in case you didn't notice.
A close series to solar? Don't you know solar 3:0 innovation just moment before? Not to mention both in GSL Ro 16 now.
The GSL hype is not because their player is definitely better, it's just they have more top players which make it so hard.
To sum up, no way taeja not in top 2
XXTN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States124 Posts
August 29 2014 04:45 GMT
#154
Polt deserves to be higher. He's super smart and consistently does really well.

Flash hasn't really proven to be a weekender type of guy where he has to adjust on the fly. He strikes me as the type whose main strength is in preparing for a specific match (i.e proleague).
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 05:39:38
August 29 2014 05:38 GMT
#155
Life too low, looks like writers didn't do their research
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 29 2014 06:09 GMT
#156
SOS and hero way too high up, good flash writeup though
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
August 29 2014 09:21 GMT
#157
This is gonna be a bad ass tourney that I will not watch a single freaking second of!!!!!


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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
August 29 2014 10:19 GMT
#158
can the brackets shake out for an all KT finals? that would be a great series.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States833 Posts
August 29 2014 10:27 GMT
#159
Ourk has a 1/3000000 chance of qualifying 0.o
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 29 2014 12:18 GMT
#160
On August 29 2014 19:19 negativedge wrote:
can the brackets shake out for an all KT finals? that would be a great series.


I dunno, Zest just immortal busted Flash twice in the IEM qualifier. Twas pretty bad D:
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limbonic
Profile Joined December 2012
70 Posts
August 29 2014 14:22 GMT
#161
is there a music playlist btw for the songs they are playing during breaks? would be cool if someone could provide a list.
Doomhunter
Profile Joined June 2013
United States12 Posts
August 29 2014 16:00 GMT
#162
I'm sorry but how is Taeja not the favorite let alone 5th. The guy wins like 2/3rds of the tournaments he enters. I'm really tired of hearing about Flash who's best finish was 2nd place in an MLG almost 2 years ago - Taeja has won 12 (I think?) Tournaments since then.

Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 29 2014 16:11 GMT
#163
On August 30 2014 01:00 Doomhunter wrote:
I'm sorry but how is Taeja not the favorite let alone 5th. The guy wins like 2/3rds of the tournaments he enters. I'm really tired of hearing about Flash who's best finish was 2nd place in an MLG almost 2 years ago - Taeja has won 12 (I think?) Tournaments since then.



Taeja hasn't won 12 tournaments since MLG Dallas (might be something like 8 though), and Flash is receiving a lot of hype because he has (arguably) the best record out of any player in August and has been looking very worthy of being called a title contender. Since shortly before the SPL finals, he has been playing like champion. Taeja's however many championships in 2012/2013 don't matter in this context.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 17:34:18
August 29 2014 17:34 GMT
#164
lol @ Zest #1 TaeJa 5-1 now vs him
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Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
August 29 2014 18:07 GMT
#165
On August 30 2014 02:34 Shellshock wrote:
lol @ Zest #1 TaeJa 5-1 now vs him


He's not out yet! Zest will win
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 29 2014 18:24 GMT
#166
I guess one of the rules of power rank is to rate every PL player higher then the rest :p. So Taeja got the highest possible position :p
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 29 2014 18:45 GMT
#167
On August 29 2014 03:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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On August 29 2014 02:59 Lorning wrote:
On August 29 2014 02:58 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 00:44 looknohands119 wrote:
On August 28 2014 22:20 lichter wrote:
I'm surprised no one has insulted our intelligence yet


That's because everyone is just thankful that you guys did a power rank. Make sure to keep this stuff coming for each tournament. You guys have really been stepping things up the past few weeks and I want to see it continue to get even better! :D


We won't be doing it for each tournament because it gets repetitive and uninteresting.

I can, however, tease that there might be another kind of Power Rank coming soon

Gumba's PR is finally getting posted?


I better make rank 1 for being probably the most illustrious LR poster of all time

And I'll ban him if I'm not.

You aren't rank 1 or 3 afaik
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
August 29 2014 19:15 GMT
#168
Massive overratings of the top 4 have happend.
Nr 4 is out and Nr 1 has to go to the decider.
Life, Scarlet, Taeja and Snute are underrated.
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General Nuke Em
Profile Joined March 2008
United States680 Posts
August 29 2014 19:28 GMT
#169
On August 30 2014 02:34 Shellshock wrote:
lol @ Zest #1 TaeJa 5-1 now vs him

On August 30 2014 04:15 Clonester wrote:
Massive overratings of the top 4 have happend.
Nr 4 is out and Nr 1 has to go to the decider.
Life, Scarlet, Taeja and Snute are underrated.

It's almost as if those concerns got addressed in the OP.

On August 28 2014 17:07 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
The PR is not a ranking of everyone's chances to win this tournament. There's a lot of bracket luck involved, as well as a considerable advantage given to players who start with seeds, and doing a final ranking prediction would be pretty damn complicated. The Power Rank is just our all-around answer to the question "who's better?"

Power Rank does not suggest that a higher ranked player is better than a lower ranked player in a head to head. Rankings are based on the overall appraisal of a player.

Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
August 29 2014 19:34 GMT
#170
Also really hard to tell which players are in form at certain events. Life seem to be doing a lot better all of a sudden. How are the predictors supposed to know that?

So coming now after some matches has been played and saying the predictions is off is a bit weird.

Like give me 2 or 3 days and I will give you a full power ranking.
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
August 29 2014 19:35 GMT
#171
On August 30 2014 04:28 General Nuke Em wrote:
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On August 30 2014 02:34 Shellshock wrote:
lol @ Zest #1 TaeJa 5-1 now vs him

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 04:15 Clonester wrote:
Massive overratings of the top 4 have happend.
Nr 4 is out and Nr 1 has to go to the decider.
Life, Scarlet, Taeja and Snute are underrated.

It's almost as if those concerns got addressed in the OP.

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On August 28 2014 17:07 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
The PR is not a ranking of everyone's chances to win this tournament. There's a lot of bracket luck involved, as well as a considerable advantage given to players who start with seeds, and doing a final ranking prediction would be pretty damn complicated. The Power Rank is just our all-around answer to the question "who's better?"

Power Rank does not suggest that a higher ranked player is better than a lower ranked player in a head to head. Rankings are based on the overall appraisal of a player.




The 4 highest rankend players have not won a premiere since beginning of Season II or being runner up. There is still a overrating when it comes to "overall appraisal of a player".
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 29 2014 19:46 GMT
#172
On August 30 2014 04:28 General Nuke Em wrote:
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On August 30 2014 02:34 Shellshock wrote:
lol @ Zest #1 TaeJa 5-1 now vs him

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On August 30 2014 04:15 Clonester wrote:
Massive overratings of the top 4 have happend.
Nr 4 is out and Nr 1 has to go to the decider.
Life, Scarlet, Taeja and Snute are underrated.

It's almost as if those concerns got addressed in the OP.

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On August 28 2014 17:07 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
The PR is not a ranking of everyone's chances to win this tournament. There's a lot of bracket luck involved, as well as a considerable advantage given to players who start with seeds, and doing a final ranking prediction would be pretty damn complicated. The Power Rank is just our all-around answer to the question "who's better?"

Power Rank does not suggest that a higher ranked player is better than a lower ranked player in a head to head. Rankings are based on the overall appraisal of a player.


I know but the writers kept asking people to flame them like what usually happens in power ranks so I'm taking my shots as they are presented to me
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 29 2014 20:27 GMT
#173
On August 30 2014 04:34 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Also really hard to tell which players are in form at certain events. Life seem to be doing a lot better all of a sudden. How are the predictors supposed to know that?

So coming now after some matches has been played and saying the predictions is off is a bit weird.

Like give me 2 or 3 days and I will give you a full power ranking.


I actually knew Life is practicing again but people usually don't listen to me when Life is involved
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MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
August 29 2014 22:21 GMT
#174
Flash vs MC, game of the year! So far
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Antonidas
Profile Joined August 2014
United States105 Posts
August 30 2014 02:02 GMT
#175
SNUTE SNUTE SNUTE!!!
as long as there is Starcraft, life is good *insert propaganda here*
fatalbino
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
August 30 2014 02:31 GMT
#176
On August 30 2014 07:21 ChromeBallz wrote:
Flash vs MC, game of the year! So far


You clearly didn't see the third game of Taeja vs. Zest. Hoooooolly shittt.
Terran for life <3
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
August 30 2014 03:33 GMT
#177
On August 28 2014 17:15 lichter wrote:
I was forced to put Jer in this power rank and I regret it already


Jer in this power rank aren't you.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 30 2014 12:23 GMT
#178
On August 30 2014 11:31 fatalbino wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:21 ChromeBallz wrote:
Flash vs MC, game of the year! So far


You clearly didn't see the third game of Taeja vs. Zest. Hoooooolly shittt.

I saw both and I preferred MC-Flash game 1. Not by a big margin though, both games are absolutely sick anyway.
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Inori Yuzuriha
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany3 Posts
August 30 2014 19:48 GMT
#179
So there are still people saying Taeja still worse and had bracket luck vs Zest? :D
herO didn'T even make it to the main bracket losing to #14 Snute, must've been luck when he got 2-1ned
Also bracket luck I guess for sOs because he had #21, #16 and #14 in his group when he was ranked top 5? I see :D

Not complaining just find it funny how people argue on here >_<
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
August 31 2014 03:41 GMT
#180
Zest goes 1-2 against Taeja and suddenly Taeja and the rankings are completely absurd?

Let's not forget MC defeated Flash the first series, but nobody was hyping him up to be a better player. Zest still looks like a more frightening person to go up against compared to Taeja.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
August 31 2014 03:57 GMT
#181
On August 31 2014 12:41 SniXSniPe wrote:
Zest goes 1-2 against Taeja and suddenly Taeja and the rankings are completely absurd?

Let's not forget MC defeated Flash the first series, but nobody was hyping him up to be a better player. Zest still looks like a more frightening person to go up against compared to Taeja.


I think Yoda will beat Zest.
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fatalbino
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
August 31 2014 06:52 GMT
#182
On August 31 2014 12:41 SniXSniPe wrote:
Zest goes 1-2 against Taeja and suddenly Taeja and the rankings are completely absurd?

Let's not forget MC defeated Flash the first series, but nobody was hyping him up to be a better player. Zest still looks like a more frightening person to go up against compared to Taeja.


Suddenly the rankings are absurd? No. I was saying from the start I personally believed Taeja should be higher up because of how consistent he is in not only 2014 but overall. He is 5-1 against zest, and has a ridiculous record against life. If he can get through flash, albeit difficult, I think he has a really good shot of winning the entire thing.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10106 Posts
August 31 2014 08:34 GMT
#183
FlaSh is love. FlaSh is life. Fear flash for he will destroy you. LEE YOUNG HO HWAITING!
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 31 2014 19:00 GMT
#184
1 and 2 in the finals. TL so good
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 19:08:08
August 31 2014 19:07 GMT
#185
Flash should take this
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 31 2014 19:15 GMT
#186
On September 01 2014 04:00 Dodgin wrote:
1 and 2 in the finals. TL so good


Almost like some of us watch Starcraft now and then
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 31 2014 19:25 GMT
#187
On August 31 2014 17:34 FlaShFTW wrote:
FlaSh is love. FlaSh is life. Fear flash for he will destroy you. LEE YOUNG HO HWAITING!

FlaSh beat TaeJa --> Top 1 player in the world ATM. Seconded this post until he faces TaeJa again
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 31 2014 19:51 GMT
#188
gg gratz Flash!
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
August 31 2014 20:02 GMT
#189
sick predictions

zest & flash confirmed imba

flashu even bit more op tho :D
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
August 31 2014 20:35 GMT
#190
Nice predictions guys! That was an amazing tournament.... great way to spend my last few free days before the studying starts again!
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
August 31 2014 20:39 GMT
#191
On September 01 2014 04:15 Zealously wrote:
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On September 01 2014 04:00 Dodgin wrote:
1 and 2 in the finals. TL so good


Almost like some of us watch Starcraft now and then


..so that's the secret.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 31 2014 21:48 GMT
#192
PR successfully called the finals god power rank TL writers are psychic
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 31 2014 22:08 GMT
#193
On September 01 2014 06:48 Darkhorse wrote:
PR successfully called the finals god power rank TL writers are psychic

Flash isn't number 1 TL writers have failed
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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
August 31 2014 22:55 GMT
#194
but then look at number 3 and 4 lol... sOs and herO fail
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 31 2014 23:10 GMT
#195
On September 01 2014 04:15 Zealously wrote:
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On September 01 2014 04:00 Dodgin wrote:
1 and 2 in the finals. TL so good


Almost like some of us watch Starcraft now and then

:D
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BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
August 31 2014 23:40 GMT
#196
On September 01 2014 07:55 asongdotnet wrote:
but then look at number 3 and 4 lol... sOs and herO fail


because of Snute <3
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
August 31 2014 23:43 GMT
#197
On September 01 2014 08:40 BakedButters wrote:
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On September 01 2014 07:55 asongdotnet wrote:
but then look at number 3 and 4 lol... sOs and herO fail


because of Snute <3


Snute best ZvP in tha World confirmed

if he only had faced korean Protoss he win have won the entire IEM easy
Yongmini
Profile Joined August 2014
Korea (South)1 Post
September 01 2014 04:14 GMT
#198
IEM Toronto 2014 was so entertaining !
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 01 2014 04:21 GMT
#199
On September 01 2014 08:43 mikumegurine wrote:
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On September 01 2014 08:40 BakedButters wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:55 asongdotnet wrote:
but then look at number 3 and 4 lol... sOs and herO fail


because of Snute <3


Snute best ZvP in tha World confirmed

if he only had faced korean Protoss he win have won the entire IEM easy

Hell, even if his series against flash was a BO3 instead of BO5 he had a chance to win it all
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