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Prime has a new main sponsor, KTC

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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 07:37:23
August 04 2014 07:07 GMT
#1
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2014080415470679412

[image loading]


Prime and K-tel, a communication and fire-fighting instrument company, signed a sponsorship contract.

With the new sponsor, Prime now pays salary for all of their players and staffs for the first time in 4 years.
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 04 2014 07:09 GMT
#2
Prime will outlive everyone.
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
August 04 2014 07:09 GMT
#3
I'm going to buy some K-tel stuff so they can pay for more slavery.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
aslejoh
Profile Joined July 2012
Norway96 Posts
August 04 2014 07:13 GMT
#4
haha pay slavery. glad for Prime!!
GhW0rg
Profile Joined December 2012
23 Posts
August 04 2014 07:13 GMT
#5
pays for slavery, nice
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
August 04 2014 07:15 GMT
#6
I will support Prime slavery, even though it goes against my personal beliefs. That's how much I love Prime. I guess MKP didn't want to be a slave

Really though, happy for them Prime isn't going down without a fight!
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
August 04 2014 07:15 GMT
#7
PRIME HWAITING!!!!!!!
Less is more.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 04 2014 07:16 GMT
#8
so many puns
This is our town, scrub
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 04 2014 07:16 GMT
#9
Thought KFC for a moment.
Refer to my post.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 04 2014 07:16 GMT
#10
Pretty cool that there staff and players are now receiving a salary, congrats to them on their dedication paying off
egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
August 04 2014 07:16 GMT
#11
Sorry, I corrected the "slavery".
noobPride
Profile Joined June 2013
Spain333 Posts
August 04 2014 07:16 GMT
#12
those are really great news, hope this is some solid sponsorship
\m/__dò.ób__\m/
gasmeter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom249 Posts
August 04 2014 07:17 GMT
#13
So happy for Prime. Recently, it feels like all the old school teams are disappearing or being completely overshadowed by other long-time KeSPA teams.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 04 2014 07:20 GMT
#14
Haha all those people who said Prime was ded
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 04 2014 07:22 GMT
#15
Great news for Prime.

Welcome to the KT Wars Prime. :D
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
August 04 2014 07:23 GMT
#16
Hope they don´t wear those ugly shirts as new team cloths, but all in all i am super happy about the slavery of Prime!
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EnPo
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland411 Posts
August 04 2014 07:23 GMT
#17
So Prime best KT? Great news for Prime, being able to live trough hard times.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 04 2014 07:25 GMT
#18
Awesome!
Moderatorlickypiddy
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
August 04 2014 07:29 GMT
#19
It seems Prime will indeed never die... And that's awesome :D Great news !

I'm still a bit sad that MKP didn't stay though... Seems like he really wanted to leave if even the promise of proper salary with a solid sponsor wasn't enough to convince him to stay.

Also yes, Prime now officially joined the KT War !
SystemXN
Profile Joined December 2011
China105 Posts
August 04 2014 07:30 GMT
#20
Congratz to Prime! Can we expect the same good news from team MVP?
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 04 2014 07:32 GMT
#21
I'm glad that the Prime management is persistent. Without persistent management, the opportunity to successfully sustain a team will elude them.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
August 04 2014 07:33 GMT
#22
I first read KFC instead of KTC.
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#23
Wow, this makes me feel so hopeful for korean sc2 that even a lower tier team like prime can get new sponsers and even pay a salary to their players. Congratulations to Prime and K-tel. Prime best KT?
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#24
I hope Prime have fire safety drills. I want to see KassiA carrying eins out of a burning building.
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
August 04 2014 07:35 GMT
#25
YAY PRIME YOU WONT DIE YET <3

I'm glad I don't have to find a new team to love just yet :D
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
August 04 2014 07:38 GMT
#26
On August 04 2014 16:30 SystemXN wrote:
Congratz to Prime! Can we expect the same good news from team MVP?


MVP already has their main sponsor, Lotte(hot 6ix).
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 04 2014 07:38 GMT
#27
Wow, if I had been asked two years ago if Prime or IM will be alive today, I would never ever have answered Prime.

Congratz Prime, fightiiiiiiing ~
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Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
August 04 2014 07:40 GMT
#28
LOL this is awesome. Now I want to see their team actually get good with the use of this sponsors aid.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3351 Posts
August 04 2014 07:41 GMT
#29
finally good news for Prime, I bet Lorning is a little bit happy now (or "less sad" if I may say)
Horang2 fan
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
August 04 2014 07:42 GMT
#30
bad time to leave, MarineKing
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TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
August 04 2014 07:44 GMT
#31
Prime fighting! now all they gotta do is convince mkp to come back.... :D
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Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
August 04 2014 07:45 GMT
#32
Fuck yeah! Really stocked for prime!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19225 Posts
August 04 2014 07:45 GMT
#33
This was contingent on MKP leaving the team. Also, Inca looks pretty hilarious in that picture.
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Ocean_1004
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Korea (South)37 Posts
August 04 2014 07:52 GMT
#34
nice
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 07:57:21
August 04 2014 07:53 GMT
#35
On August 04 2014 16:20 Darkhorse wrote:
Haha all those people who said Prime was ded

Uh dont' jinx it guys...


On August 04 2014 16:42 Lunareste wrote:
bad time to leave, MarineKing

They couldn't afford his royal salary, so soon we'll be referring to him as MKT1
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 04 2014 07:54 GMT
#36
Haha MKP
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 04 2014 07:58 GMT
#37
Man I don't recognize half the people in that picture. I miss the good ol' days of Byun+MKP guy love.
Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
August 04 2014 08:00 GMT
#38
now they only need to find some new talent (or show it) for next proleague
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
August 04 2014 08:02 GMT
#39
Wow salary for the first time in 4 years. Also just after MKP leaves lol xD

Oh well good luck!
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cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
August 04 2014 08:09 GMT
#40
salary for the first time in 4 years? jesus.I knew things were bad, but that's insane.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 04 2014 08:11 GMT
#41
On August 04 2014 16:16 Zenbrez wrote:
Thought KFC for a moment.

Also
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
August 04 2014 08:11 GMT
#42
On August 04 2014 16:34 lichter wrote:
I hope Prime have fire safety drills. I want to see KassiA carrying eins out of a burning building.


eins quit progaming and went back to study

i did an interview with GerrardPrime yesterday we talk about many things, i didn't had time to transcript yet, i'll post it on TL in the upcoming days when i can find some free time with work and personal stuff...also did an interview with StatePrime
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
August 04 2014 08:11 GMT
#43
Maybe ByuN will come out of hiding now?

Anyway, really good news.
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Hassan_RO
Profile Joined May 2012
Romania77 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 08:17:05
August 04 2014 08:12 GMT
#44
Happy to hear the good news. However that doesn't compensate the fact that they need players badly....they have lost their ace as well as a coach and another player - although through alliance - (Leenock).
That notwithstanding significant earlier losses such as Maru, Eins, Jila/KaL.....
I really hope that they can get back on their feet and put up a good fight next proleague, rooting for them.
The new sponsor should attract some free agents off the market...maybe some recently-dropped ex-MVP people? DRGPrime or KeenPrime does have a nice ring to it. Heck, even SuperPrime
GO PRIMES!

EDIT:

On August 04 2014 17:11 Marou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 16:34 lichter wrote:
I hope Prime have fire safety drills. I want to see KassiA carrying eins out of a burning building.


eins quit progaming and went back to study

i did an interview with GerrardPrime yesterday we talk about many things, i didn't had time to transcript yet, i'll post it on TL in the upcoming days when i can find some free time with work and personal stuff...also did an interview with StatePrime


PLEASE post the interview asap! god these little teams have so bad PR, it's precious getting any info from someone directly involved.

EDIT2:

Did someone say that INCA was in that picture? Did he change his name or smth cause i dont see him in the prime liquidpedia page....can anyone tell us who are all the people in the pic? thanks!
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 04 2014 08:14 GMT
#45
On August 04 2014 16:34 lichter wrote:
I hope Prime have fire safety drills. I want to see KassiA carrying eins out of a burning building.

eins retired back in may
Moderatorlickypiddy
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 04 2014 08:20 GMT
#46
On August 04 2014 16:20 Darkhorse wrote:
Haha all those people who said Prime was ded


The team lives on, but their championship quality is long dead.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
August 04 2014 08:26 GMT
#47
A communcations company, they've got it made now.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 04 2014 08:26 GMT
#48
On August 04 2014 17:09 cYaN wrote:
salary for the first time in 4 years? jesus.I knew things were bad, but that's insane.

That's not uncommon.
AdministratorBreak the chains
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 04 2014 08:29 GMT
#49
Congrats to prime! Now Let's hope they and sc2 perform well in the next year so that KTC will continue to support them!
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 04 2014 08:30 GMT
#50
That´s very nice to hear, but they need a lot of new players to be able to do anything but lose 0-3 every proleague match. And somehow I don´t think they´ll attract any of the strong free agents avaiable now :/
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5585 Posts
August 04 2014 08:31 GMT
#51
KTC best KT
don't wall off against random
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 04 2014 08:32 GMT
#52
On August 04 2014 17:30 TeeTS wrote:
That´s very nice to hear, but they need a lot of new players to be able to do anything but lose 0-3 every proleague match. And somehow I don´t think they´ll attract any of the strong free agents avaiable now :/


If they're paying salary I can see them attracting free agents.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
August 04 2014 08:32 GMT
#53
Telecom company battle royale!
Someone call down the Thunder?
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
August 04 2014 08:33 GMT
#54
First time they've paid all their staff...?
*Hugs all* | I came here to drink milk and kick asses, and I've just finished my milk.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 04 2014 08:33 GMT
#55
On August 04 2014 17:30 TeeTS wrote:
That´s very nice to hear, but they need a lot of new players to be able to do anything but lose 0-3 every proleague match. And somehow I don´t think they´ll attract any of the strong free agents avaiable now :/

Why? Prime's biggest issue was funding which they have now secured
AdministratorBreak the chains
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
August 04 2014 08:35 GMT
#56
I thought it was KFC at first >.<
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gneGne
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands697 Posts
August 04 2014 08:42 GMT
#57
Congratz to Prime! They needed this so bad! :D
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
August 04 2014 08:45 GMT
#58
Why should a fire-fighting and emergency company sponsor an StarCraft Team? :D
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RoninColt
Profile Joined March 2013
United States18 Posts
August 04 2014 08:46 GMT
#59
On August 04 2014 17:02 Pandemona wrote:
Wow salary for the first time in 4 years. Also just after MKP leaves lol xD

Oh well good luck!


I don't think they meant none of their players received salary, " Prime now pays salary for ALL of their players and staffs for the first time in 4 years. " which is pretty common for teams to have only a select few with salary. I don't know for sure, but that's what it sounds like.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 04 2014 08:48 GMT
#60
Should rename to KTC so we can say they're best KT.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
August 04 2014 08:49 GMT
#61
On August 04 2014 17:45 EXRNaRa wrote:
Why should a fire-fighting and emergency company sponsor an StarCraft Team? :D

You apparently do not know the story and woes of Prime. This is easily the most perfect fit for a sponsor for any team ever.
k3n705
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada134 Posts
August 04 2014 08:50 GMT
#62
This just in, Marine King rejoins Prime!
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
August 04 2014 08:52 GMT
#63
Marine King most certainly knew this deal was coming, his departure may have been a stipulation. Marine King is too big for the team. Nice to see that PRIME will continue to survive considering they've bled all their star players. PRIME keeping the dream alive, and Marine King off to start a new, probably successful chapter of his career
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
August 04 2014 08:52 GMT
#64
nice! I hope they get good players in now
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 04 2014 08:53 GMT
#65
PRIME FOREVER!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 04 2014 08:55 GMT
#66
lol another telecom team. Lets buy some decent players with dat money
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
August 04 2014 08:57 GMT
#67
Prime refusing to gg like MKP. Awesome.
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
August 04 2014 08:58 GMT
#68
On August 04 2014 17:49 coverpunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 17:45 EXRNaRa wrote:
Why should a fire-fighting and emergency company sponsor an StarCraft Team? :D

You apparently do not know the story and woes of Prime. This is easily the most perfect fit for a sponsor for any team ever.


Instead of writing what you wrote you could just explain the story to me
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 04 2014 09:02 GMT
#69
It's great to see a team getting sponorship!
maru lover forever
SlammerSC2
Profile Joined April 2013
77 Posts
August 04 2014 09:25 GMT
#70
Are they gonna rename the team to KTC? Would be quite fitting with other teams with KT in their name. SKT,KT and now maybe KTC.

Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 04 2014 09:27 GMT
#71
I hope they do re-name to KTC, it would be like a fresh start similar to Jin Air
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
August 04 2014 09:40 GMT
#72
Who would've thought after all these years that it's Prime still hanging around when so many have fallen.

Huge congrats to them.
Gamlet
Profile Joined December 2012
Ukraine336 Posts
August 04 2014 09:42 GMT
#73
Salvation leave Prime and no Salvation in foto/
Kiev
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
August 04 2014 09:46 GMT
#74
NIce!
Liliputin
Profile Joined January 2012
Czech Republic458 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 09:51:02
August 04 2014 09:48 GMT
#75
On August 04 2014 18:42 Gamlet wrote:
Salvation leave Prime and no Salvation in foto/

Do you want to tell me that Prime has "kicked out" every player except those on the picture? (Which would mean KassiA and DeParture(ByuN not included,I believe in his return))
Prime <3 l black from exile l F O R S E N B O Y S
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
August 04 2014 09:52 GMT
#76
On August 04 2014 18:27 Dodgin wrote:
I hope they do re-name to KTC, it would be like a fresh start similar to Jin Air


Plus we'd get a new contender in the best kt game.
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
August 04 2014 09:53 GMT
#77
It's time for Supernova Prime!
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 04 2014 09:53 GMT
#78
This is great news for Prime, glad their woes have finally been resolved. But, unfortunately, just like with IM and MVP it feels like a shadow of its former self with a lot of the core of the old team now gone.

I wish we could get some news on Byun, like anything, at this point even just knowing he retired, but knowing for sure, is better then not knowing shit.

Again congratulations to Prime, may you live long!
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
August 04 2014 09:54 GMT
#79
Happy to hear this.
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 04 2014 09:57 GMT
#80
wow, never thought that they could stay alive to get a sponsor!

PRIME FIGHTING
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 04 2014 10:02 GMT
#81
So why'd mkp leave
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 04 2014 10:03 GMT
#82
But in 2012 2013 2014 they told me Prime was gonna die

Prime hwaiting <333
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 04 2014 10:09 GMT
#83
On August 04 2014 19:02 teddyoojo wrote:
So why'd mkp leave


This is just speculation but I'm guessing that this sponsorship won't cover any travel cost for the players, and instead they'll use that money to pay them salary and have them stay in Korea full time and focus completely on Proleague. Marineking wants to go to foreign events so he's looking for a team/sponsor to support him in that instead of staying in KR all the time.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 10:14:27
August 04 2014 10:13 GMT
#84
On August 04 2014 18:53 Destructicon wrote:
I wish we could get some news on Byun, like anything, at this point even just knowing he retired, but knowing for sure, is better then not knowing shit.

Well according to what we read, Prime haven't been paying their employees for 4 years, so Byun probably took a job flipping Korean beef or something when he realized that you can't pay for food or rent in minerals. Unlike, somehow, the rest of Prime, who may have been eating out of dumpsters and living in boxes for the last 4 years unbeknownst to the rest of us.
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
August 04 2014 10:20 GMT
#85
On August 04 2014 19:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 18:53 Destructicon wrote:
I wish we could get some news on Byun, like anything, at this point even just knowing he retired, but knowing for sure, is better then not knowing shit.

Well according to what we read, Prime haven't been paying their employees for 4 years, so Byun probably took a job flipping Korean beef or something when he realized that you can't pay for food or rent in minerals. Unlike, somehow, the rest of Prime, who may have been eating out of dumpsters and living in boxes for the last 4 years unbeknownst to the rest of us.

Or they could have families that help pay for living costs? I don't think Prime is made of orphans.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
August 04 2014 10:22 GMT
#86
But MKP is gone...
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
August 04 2014 10:22 GMT
#87
Congrats to Prime!
Tyeshoo
Profile Joined July 2014
Ukraine11 Posts
August 04 2014 10:33 GMT
#88
will MarineKing come back?
sceroh
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium182 Posts
August 04 2014 10:35 GMT
#89
Huge congrats to them !
Liquid`HayprO
Profile Joined March 2003
Iraq1230 Posts
August 04 2014 10:37 GMT
#90
great news. always liked prime
Team LiquidOur friendship will be the stuff of legend.
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
August 04 2014 10:39 GMT
#91
On August 04 2014 17:48 HolydaKing wrote:
Should rename to KTC so we can say they're best KT.


Can we just say they are average KT, with SKT being best KT and KT being 3rd best KT??
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 04 2014 10:43 GMT
#92
Wooooow! Congrats Prime!!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 04 2014 10:50 GMT
#93
PRIME LIVES. The undying zombie cannot be killed.
laaaaaaaamee
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia95 Posts
August 04 2014 10:52 GMT
#94
im so relieved and happy for prime YAY
tfw maru promises to show me good games
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
August 04 2014 10:57 GMT
#95
First i read KFC :D
Hopefully they will pick up some good players.
Freelancer veteran
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
August 04 2014 11:01 GMT
#96
Wow great news! !! Prime fighting!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 11:28:12
August 04 2014 11:28 GMT
#97
What is dead cannot die, Lorning?
Thyrym
Profile Joined December 2013
89 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 11:30:00
August 04 2014 11:28 GMT
#98
Man, KeSPA is just handling SC 2 like a boss... this year they game is growing on Korea due to PL, now prime has a sponsor huge sponsor, i wont say that it will be like BW again, but i have great feelings for this next 2 years for SC 2 and KeSPA!

At the end of PL, let do a huge shoutout theard on reddit, on TL and post on their facebook! they deserve it!

Edit: Also, KTC Prime looks cool right? KTCreatorPrime uhhhh chills @_@_@_@
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
August 04 2014 11:32 GMT
#99
a part of me wish that it was KFC that sponsored them instead....
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51425 Posts
August 04 2014 11:33 GMT
#100
so is this a complete take over e.g. team 8 -> jin air green wings or just a general sponsorship e.g. soul -> stx soul?
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yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
August 04 2014 11:40 GMT
#101
On August 04 2014 19:20 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 19:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On August 04 2014 18:53 Destructicon wrote:
I wish we could get some news on Byun, like anything, at this point even just knowing he retired, but knowing for sure, is better then not knowing shit.

Well according to what we read, Prime haven't been paying their employees for 4 years, so Byun probably took a job flipping Korean beef or something when he realized that you can't pay for food or rent in minerals. Unlike, somehow, the rest of Prime, who may have been eating out of dumpsters and living in boxes for the last 4 years unbeknownst to the rest of us.

Or they could have families that help pay for living costs? I don't think Prime is made of orphans.

They did have Primezzang and TT eSports money for a while. I think Primezzang still helps them out.
While the "sponsor" money wasn't much, it could be enough to maintain rent or taxes while enough for food for the team house. Also it isn't like the players/employee couldn't have "al-ba" jobs (no salary, manual labor) as a supplemental income.
gl hf
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
August 04 2014 11:43 GMT
#102
On August 04 2014 16:38 egernya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 16:30 SystemXN wrote:
Congratz to Prime! Can we expect the same good news from team MVP?


MVP already has their main sponsor, Lotte(hot 6ix).

Lotte owns an amusement park in Seoul right ? MVP should rename in Lotte Rolster.

And prime should rename in KTC.
rly ?
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 04 2014 11:45 GMT
#103
On August 04 2014 20:40 yido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 19:20 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 04 2014 19:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On August 04 2014 18:53 Destructicon wrote:
I wish we could get some news on Byun, like anything, at this point even just knowing he retired, but knowing for sure, is better then not knowing shit.

Well according to what we read, Prime haven't been paying their employees for 4 years, so Byun probably took a job flipping Korean beef or something when he realized that you can't pay for food or rent in minerals. Unlike, somehow, the rest of Prime, who may have been eating out of dumpsters and living in boxes for the last 4 years unbeknownst to the rest of us.

Or they could have families that help pay for living costs? I don't think Prime is made of orphans.

They did have Primezzang and TT eSports money for a while. I think Primezzang still helps them out.
While the "sponsor" money wasn't much, it could be enough to maintain rent or taxes while enough for food for the team house. Also it isn't like the players/employee couldn't have "al-ba" jobs (no salary, manual labor) as a supplemental income.

I probably posted it a thousand time now :
ByuN had health problems and was hospitalized for a while. He should have start SPL next season but but the recent problems Prime faced, IDK.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 04 2014 11:54 GMT
#104
The telecom derby, a new challenger approaches
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 04 2014 12:02 GMT
#105
communication and firefighting instrument company thats an interesting combination.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
August 04 2014 12:05 GMT
#106
On August 04 2014 20:43 algue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 16:38 egernya wrote:
On August 04 2014 16:30 SystemXN wrote:
Congratz to Prime! Can we expect the same good news from team MVP?


MVP already has their main sponsor, Lotte(hot 6ix).

Lotte owns an amusement park in Seoul right ? MVP should rename in Lotte Rolster.

And prime should rename in KTC.


Afaik it's a water park but whatever
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
August 04 2014 12:21 GMT
#107
That's crazy that the team did not take care of the core players in terms of salary. If it weren't for said core players prime would not have lasted as long as it did/attract sponsorship. This is just one huge thing wrong with the decision making internally. I bet when the contract expires, the sponsor will not renew.
TL+ Member
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 12:25:38
August 04 2014 12:25 GMT
#108
On August 04 2014 20:43 algue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 16:38 egernya wrote:
On August 04 2014 16:30 SystemXN wrote:
Congratz to Prime! Can we expect the same good news from team MVP?


MVP already has their main sponsor, Lotte(hot 6ix).

Lotte owns an amusement park in Seoul right ? MVP should rename in Lotte Rolster.

And prime should rename in KTC.


Its a different branch of Lotte. MVP's sponsor is Lotte Chilsung which is a drink branch responsible for hot6ix and other beverages.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
August 04 2014 12:53 GMT
#109
Almost read KFC (mb because i'm hungry )

Now that would have been awesome !
RIP MKP
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
August 04 2014 13:25 GMT
#110
On August 04 2014 20:33 GTR wrote:
so is this a complete take over e.g. team 8 -> jin air green wings or just a general sponsorship e.g. soul -> stx soul?


Im pretty sure it's more the later as the PRIME brands still exists. KTC is now the main sponsor but hopefully there should be more sponsors coming in to.
They have PRIME patches on those shirts.
twitter@RickyMarou
sm1995
Profile Joined July 2014
Korea (South)69 Posts
August 04 2014 13:35 GMT
#111
salary doesnt matter for esf players. because the corporation which support them are really small than other kespa team. Team like skt or kt contribute for their team like 10 bilions a year. And player like rain soo are received salary for 1bilions a year. But it is really worth that they have new sponser
h
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 04 2014 13:37 GMT
#112
Wonder why so many players left then?
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 04 2014 13:38 GMT
#113
On August 04 2014 22:35 sm1995 wrote:
salary doesnt matter for esf players


??????????????????
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 04 2014 13:47 GMT
#114
On August 04 2014 22:35 sm1995 wrote:
salary doesnt matter for esf players

I though everybody likes money!
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
August 04 2014 13:49 GMT
#115
If only it was KFC, then free chicken everyday,
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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 04 2014 13:52 GMT
#116
On August 04 2014 22:49 iSometric wrote:
If only it was KFC, then free chicken everyday,

they had that before with some sponsor, or am i mistaken
This is our town, scrub
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
August 04 2014 13:55 GMT
#117
On August 04 2014 22:35 sm1995 wrote:
salary doesnt matter for esf players. because the corporation which support them are really small than other kespa team. Team like skt or kt contribute for their team like 10 bilions a year. And player like rain soo are received salary for 1bilions a year. But it is really worth that they have new sponser

I assume thats 1 billion Won, not USD. Even so I don't beleive Rain or soO makes the equivelent of $1 million USD per anum :o
SkySC2
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany303 Posts
August 04 2014 14:08 GMT
#118
oh my god why cant you guys just release byun from prime.. plz. its so exhausting to know nothing about him
MarineKing !!
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
August 04 2014 14:14 GMT
#119
I must assume that a new sponsor significant enough that Prime can pay salaries means they will sign some decent players. What kind of sponsor would sign with a team that was the worst in SPL and just lost one of their two best players otherwise? Then again I suppose even if they lose every game they still get the same amount of (regular-season) TV time that the other teams get.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9015 Posts
August 04 2014 14:19 GMT
#120
On August 04 2014 22:55 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 22:35 sm1995 wrote:
salary doesnt matter for esf players. because the corporation which support them are really small than other kespa team. Team like skt or kt contribute for their team like 10 bilions a year. And player like rain soo are received salary for 1bilions a year. But it is really worth that they have new sponser

I assume thats 1 billion Won, not USD. Even so I don't beleive Rain or soO makes the equivelent of $1 million USD per anum :o

10 billion won is like 10 mil USD. I doubt they get that much money.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 14:21:34
August 04 2014 14:19 GMT
#121
On August 04 2014 22:52 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 22:49 iSometric wrote:
If only it was KFC, then free chicken everyday,

they had that before with some sponsor, or am i mistaken


It was team oGs with such sponsor.

+ Show Spoiler +

Sponsor: Mom's Touch Chicken and Burger (kr)
Website: http://momstouch.co.kr/

Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/288049-list-of-sc2-sponsors-sorted-by-team
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 04 2014 14:23 GMT
#122
On August 04 2014 23:19 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 22:52 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:49 iSometric wrote:
If only it was KFC, then free chicken everyday,

they had that before with some sponsor, or am i mistaken


It was team oGs with such sponsor.

+ Show Spoiler +

Sponsor: Mom's Touch Chicken and Burger (kr)
Website: http://momstouch.co.kr/

Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/288049-list-of-sc2-sponsors-sorted-by-team

ah yes, thanks :D moms touch
This is our town, scrub
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 14:27:46
August 04 2014 14:23 GMT
#123
On August 04 2014 23:19 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 22:52 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:49 iSometric wrote:
If only it was KFC, then free chicken everyday,

they had that before with some sponsor, or am i mistaken


It was team oGs with such sponsor.

+ Show Spoiler +

Sponsor: Mom's Touch Chicken and Burger (kr)
Website: http://momstouch.co.kr/

Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/288049-list-of-sc2-sponsors-sorted-by-team


Prime was also sponsored by a chicken place in 2011 I believe; I think it was Sabasaba Chicken or something like that?

Edit: Here's a TL article about the Mom's Touch sponsorship that mentions that Prime is sponsored by Sabasaba Chicken: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/240686-ogs-gets-a-new-180000-sponsor

Anyone remember the Zerg player ChickenCombo?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ChickenCombo

He was just begging to be sponsored by KFC. KFC.ChickenCombo? It's like a walking advertisement!

usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
August 04 2014 14:37 GMT
#124
Prime now pays salary for all of their players and staffs for the first time in 4 years.


Cracks me up.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 04 2014 15:52 GMT
#125
On August 04 2014 23:19 Garnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 22:55 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:35 sm1995 wrote:
salary doesnt matter for esf players. because the corporation which support them are really small than other kespa team. Team like skt or kt contribute for their team like 10 bilions a year. And player like rain soo are received salary for 1bilions a year. But it is really worth that they have new sponser

I assume thats 1 billion Won, not USD. Even so I don't beleive Rain or soO makes the equivelent of $1 million USD per anum :o

10 billion won is like 10 mil USD. I doubt they get that much money.


During last season's proleague parting was making 8-9k USD per month
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
August 04 2014 15:53 GMT
#126
On August 04 2014 16:09 Faust852 wrote:
Prime will outlive everyone.


Quoted for that truth.

It's just a shame when members that you so strongly connect with Prime leave.

+ Show Spoiler +
BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE STATE YO! GO BRO! JUST SCOUT FOR THEM PROXY-PROXY!
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 04 2014 16:15 GMT
#127
Congratulations to Prime!

Maybe now they can afford funding a search party for Byun.
Flash | Mvp
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 04 2014 16:17 GMT
#128
Looks like my prediction that Prime was going to be the next team to go under was completely wrong. Nice to be wrong in this case though
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 04 2014 16:30 GMT
#129
Good news! Live on, Prime!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 04 2014 16:33 GMT
#130
How the hell does Prime manage to stay alive, each time you call them dead, BAM, self-sponsorship, a new sponsor or whatever ! Damn, they're resilient !
LiquipediaWanderer
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 04 2014 17:22 GMT
#131
Paying salaries itself doesn't mean much without numbers or at least a ballpark number. With the players left it wouldn't surprise me if each got paid very little, but it's still considered a salary. I suppose it's better than 0 though!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
August 04 2014 17:33 GMT
#132
Congrats Prime. Premier team is saved.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 04 2014 18:25 GMT
#133
Great news especially the salary parts! Congrats to the team : )
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BongChambers
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada591 Posts
August 04 2014 18:33 GMT
#134
Very nice to hear that everyone now gets a salary, hard work and dedication pays off in the end it seems!
420
yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 18:50:00
August 04 2014 18:49 GMT
#135
On August 04 2014 20:45 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:40 yido wrote:
On August 04 2014 19:20 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 04 2014 19:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On August 04 2014 18:53 Destructicon wrote:
I wish we could get some news on Byun, like anything, at this point even just knowing he retired, but knowing for sure, is better then not knowing shit.

Well according to what we read, Prime haven't been paying their employees for 4 years, so Byun probably took a job flipping Korean beef or something when he realized that you can't pay for food or rent in minerals. Unlike, somehow, the rest of Prime, who may have been eating out of dumpsters and living in boxes for the last 4 years unbeknownst to the rest of us.

Or they could have families that help pay for living costs? I don't think Prime is made of orphans.

They did have Primezzang and TT eSports money for a while. I think Primezzang still helps them out.
While the "sponsor" money wasn't much, it could be enough to maintain rent or taxes while enough for food for the team house. Also it isn't like the players/employee couldn't have "al-ba" jobs (no salary, manual labor) as a supplemental income.

I probably posted it a thousand time now :
ByuN had health problems and was hospitalized for a while. He should have start SPL next season but but the recent problems Prime faced, IDK.

Thanks for the info man. I wish Byun a speedy recovery. I always loved his stream and his unique mech builds.
gl hf
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
August 04 2014 18:56 GMT
#136
Grats to PRIME, really glad to see them get a sponsor.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 04 2014 19:08 GMT
#137
On August 05 2014 00:52 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 23:19 Garnet wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:55 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:35 sm1995 wrote:
salary doesnt matter for esf players. because the corporation which support them are really small than other kespa team. Team like skt or kt contribute for their team like 10 bilions a year. And player like rain soo are received salary for 1bilions a year. But it is really worth that they have new sponser

I assume thats 1 billion Won, not USD. Even so I don't beleive Rain or soO makes the equivelent of $1 million USD per anum :o

10 billion won is like 10 mil USD. I doubt they get that much money.


During last season's proleague parting was making 8-9k USD per month


I would like to have a source for this statement that isn't word of mouth
AdministratorBreak the chains
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 04 2014 19:11 GMT
#138
On August 05 2014 04:08 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 00:52 LongShot27 wrote:
On August 04 2014 23:19 Garnet wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:55 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:35 sm1995 wrote:
salary doesnt matter for esf players. because the corporation which support them are really small than other kespa team. Team like skt or kt contribute for their team like 10 bilions a year. And player like rain soo are received salary for 1bilions a year. But it is really worth that they have new sponser

I assume thats 1 billion Won, not USD. Even so I don't beleive Rain or soO makes the equivelent of $1 million USD per anum :o

10 billion won is like 10 mil USD. I doubt they get that much money.


During last season's proleague parting was making 8-9k USD per month


I would like to have a source for this statement that isn't word of mouth


I thought it was posted in the thread that he was getting about 70k over 9 months, too lazy to check source.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 04 2014 20:27 GMT
#139
On August 05 2014 04:11 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 04:08 Zealously wrote:
On August 05 2014 00:52 LongShot27 wrote:
On August 04 2014 23:19 Garnet wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:55 Foreverkul wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:35 sm1995 wrote:
salary doesnt matter for esf players. because the corporation which support them are really small than other kespa team. Team like skt or kt contribute for their team like 10 bilions a year. And player like rain soo are received salary for 1bilions a year. But it is really worth that they have new sponser

I assume thats 1 billion Won, not USD. Even so I don't beleive Rain or soO makes the equivelent of $1 million USD per anum :o

10 billion won is like 10 mil USD. I doubt they get that much money.


During last season's proleague parting was making 8-9k USD per month


I would like to have a source for this statement that isn't word of mouth


I thought it was posted in the thread that he was getting about 70k over 9 months, too lazy to check source.


It's somewhere on teamliquid
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 04 2014 20:28 GMT
#140
Also this http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/16jn56/parting_will_make_8284_usd_per_month/

http://osen.mt.co.kr/article/G1109527414
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 20:32:17
August 04 2014 20:31 GMT
#141
nvm
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PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
August 04 2014 21:01 GMT
#142
Barbie!
Awesome news for Prime!
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
August 04 2014 21:27 GMT
#143
They will be remained KTC Prime or just stay Prime? I thought it was strange the esf teams never took on sponsor names, it seems like a much better way to advertise for sponsors than just wearing their names on uniforms.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
August 04 2014 21:56 GMT
#144
Just thinkin back to MaKa HongUn Check anypro etc., lol
rip prime
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 04 2014 22:19 GMT
#145
On August 05 2014 06:27 iamho wrote:
They will be remained KTC Prime or just stay Prime? I thought it was strange the esf teams never took on sponsor names, it seems like a much better way to advertise for sponsors than just wearing their names on uniforms.


I hope its PRIMEKTC like it was PRIME.WE. CreatorKTCPrime sounds weird.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
August 05 2014 00:55 GMT
#146
PRIMETC FIGTHING
The heart's eternal vow
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
August 05 2014 01:29 GMT
#147
PRIME-TIME!!!
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Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
August 05 2014 05:19 GMT
#148
So it seems Prime is still in their... PRIME. I'll see myself out.
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