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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
August 01 2014 20:14 GMT
#281
Never wanted to see this happen.
But please, TL, pick him up!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
August 01 2014 20:22 GMT
#282
MKP is past his PRIME.
DRG is no longer an MVP
IM dead
F1nal
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany216 Posts
August 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#283
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..........

I hope some good team will pick him up !
<3 DeMusliM | MKP | Maru | Bomber | Flash | Stephano |
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
August 01 2014 20:38 GMT
#284
So this pretty much means MKP will join Jin Air
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
August 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#285
On August 02 2014 04:18 di4m0nd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 03:45 Prolet wrote:
On August 01 2014 20:06 Strela wrote:
On August 01 2014 19:45 Prolet wrote:
The scene needs to shrink even more. The prize money is a shadow of what it once was. It's hard enough as it is to make it as a progamer in Starcraft II. If I were them, I would consider military service, going to university, getting a job. All of those would give you a superior income and a future toward eventual retirement. The writing is on the wall, unfortunately. I watch Proleague. That's about it.

Do you have a source for this? I am kinda curious to see the prize money available in the sc2 scene over the years.


No I do not have a source. Perhaps I spoke out of turn. But at the very least, we can agree the competition is much more fierce with the addition of KESPA teams.

We see that there is no shortage of skilled free agents, making it a buyer's market. Teams can drive the money down they are willing to offer a player. Or they can even disband the team entirely and bring in a whole new roster.

But yeah, I would be curious too. Much less MLG involvment, NASL, IPL gone. May be 1 or 2 less GSLs per year, though higher prize pool per tournament. I don't think WCS makes up for that, unfortunately.



OK so I just did the math (well pretty much adding numbers :/)
source - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments

2010 - 648,500 (does not include beta)
2011 - 2,239360
2012 - 2,784,890
2013 - 190,836 (Wol Winnings only)
2013 - 2,285,999 (HOTS Winnings only)
2014 - 2,281,175

so for the premier Tournaments there isnt really a huge decrease I cant say for the Major or minor tournaments. But all in all the money is still getting shoveled down sc2s throat.


Even though there was a lot of hype back in the day, let's not forget the prize pool back in 2011 was pretty poor in tournaments like dreamhack/mlg
Back then, MLG champion got only 5k (back when mma, bomber, mvp and huk were winning it), even though those were one of the best tournaments ever in terms of hype, enthusiasm, etc...
...
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
August 01 2014 20:54 GMT
#286
Good luck MarineKing ! Sad he had to leave prime , this shit is insane.....

MK playing games with our hearts !!!!

Tngabor
Profile Joined December 2013
Serbia60 Posts
August 01 2014 21:08 GMT
#287
: (
Prolet
Profile Joined July 2012
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 21:23:55
August 01 2014 21:16 GMT
#288
I don't think players make that much money. MKP is 21 now. Progaming SC2 best suited for young people where they can't make that amount of money per year at that stage of life.

Even if you placed 5th-8th every season of WCS, that's only $15,000 before taxes. Even less in GSL as the prize distribution is more top heavy. Place high at a few other tournaments + salary, you could double, triple that $15,000. Then take out taxes. Not sure how prize money is taxed. Even without, a degree income is higher and definitely more stable than Starcraft II career.

Look at the caliber of players placing 5th-8th every season. Then think about what income they probably make, putting in the hours they do. That is why I don't think even joining a foreign team and concentrating around those foreign tournaments will change MKP's life much.
GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
August 01 2014 21:31 GMT
#289
On August 01 2014 19:31 Amestir wrote:
MVP MKP

DRG PRIME

only thing that makes sense

MVP MK*
SkySC2
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany303 Posts
August 01 2014 21:33 GMT
#290
well huks on a foreign team and earns about 8k (proven) a month
MarineKing !!
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
August 01 2014 21:35 GMT
#291
Wow, the end of an era.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
August 01 2014 21:57 GMT
#292
Can someone please find my jaw I think it rolled under the couch.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
August 01 2014 22:13 GMT
#293
On August 02 2014 06:16 Prolet wrote:
I don't think players make that much money.

They don't, unless their name is mvp, mc, or nestea...
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 01 2014 22:15 GMT
#294
MKP did ok. He didn't get rich, but 150k~ is not chump change either.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 01 2014 22:29 GMT
#295
On August 02 2014 07:15 ragz_gt wrote:
MKP did ok. He didn't get rich, but 150k~ is not chump change either.

He's actually won almost 200k (14th all time)
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
August 01 2014 22:33 GMT
#296
But... but... MarineKingPrime. He was such a central figure to PRIME - might even have helped keep the team alive through rough times.

I'm sad... but maybe MKP can get a new team and into some more tournaments.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
August 01 2014 22:48 GMT
#297
The only great thing left at Prime is Barbie
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
Prolet
Profile Joined July 2012
United States37 Posts
August 01 2014 22:55 GMT
#298
On August 02 2014 07:29 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 07:15 ragz_gt wrote:
MKP did ok. He didn't get rich, but 150k~ is not chump change either.

He's actually won almost 200k (14th all time)


It just depends on on you state the numbers. 200,000 seems like a big number. Remember, he's been playing for 3, almost 4 years. $66,667 per year if over three years. Or $50,000 per year over four years. If we don't expect him to make any major earnings before the year runs out, closer to the later.You could argue he earns it, if he is one of those players putting in twelve hours a day, 7 days a week. Of course I have to do some assuming, I do not know his arrangements.

That certainly was awesome when he was younger with team stipend (however much that is). But as I said, he is 21 now. I suspect that team Prime is not paying so well since Bomber and now MKP left.

And every year he doesn't earn significant prize it stretches that ~$200,000 further. At the end of the day, we will just have to see what happens. He already left the game once.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
August 01 2014 22:57 GMT
#299
On August 02 2014 07:55 Prolet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 07:29 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 02 2014 07:15 ragz_gt wrote:
MKP did ok. He didn't get rich, but 150k~ is not chump change either.

He's actually won almost 200k (14th all time)


It just depends on on you state the numbers. 200,000 seems like a big number. Remember, he's been playing for 3, almost 4 years. $66,667 per year if over three years. Or $50,000 per year over four years. If we don't expect him to make any major earnings before the year runs out, closer to the later.You could argue he earns it, if he is one of those players putting in twelve hours a day, 7 days a week. Of course I have to do some assuming, I do not know his arrangements.

That certainly was awesome when he was younger with team stipend (however much that is). But as I said, he is 21 now. I suspect that team Prime is not paying so well since Bomber and now MKP left.

And every year he doesn't earn significant prize it stretches that ~$200,000 further. At the end of the day, we will just have to see what happens. He already left the game once.


Wait, when was Bomber on PRIME?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 01 2014 22:59 GMT
#300
On August 02 2014 07:55 Prolet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 07:29 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 02 2014 07:15 ragz_gt wrote:
MKP did ok. He didn't get rich, but 150k~ is not chump change either.

He's actually won almost 200k (14th all time)


It just depends on on you state the numbers. 200,000 seems like a big number. Remember, he's been playing for 3, almost 4 years. $66,667 per year if over three years. Or $50,000 per year over four years. If we don't expect him to make any major earnings before the year runs out, closer to the later.You could argue he earns it, if he is one of those players putting in twelve hours a day, 7 days a week. Of course I have to do some assuming, I do not know his arrangements.

That certainly was awesome when he was younger with team stipend (however much that is). But as I said, he is 21 now. I suspect that team Prime is not paying so well since Bomber and now MKP left.

And every year he doesn't earn significant prize it stretches that ~$200,000 further. At the end of the day, we will just have to see what happens. He already left the game once.



Bomber never was on Prime. And if 200k is just from tournaments you'd have to imagine he has a decent chunk from a salary as well. Sure if he's ONLY making 200k in 4 years that's not great, but that just isn't the case
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